Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumGillibrand on her past guns record: 'I didn't do the right thing'
2020 Democratic candidate Kirsten Gillibrand expressed remorse over her past record supporting gun rights and said her admission that she was wrong makes her a "better candidate for president."
"I didn't do the right thing," Gillibrand told CNN's Alisyn Camerota on "New Day" Wednesday. "I mean, I think someone who can't recognize when they're wrong is far more concerning if you can never admit when you're wrong. And not only was I wrong, and not only should I have cared more about gun violence in other parts of my state or other parts of my country, I just didn't."
Gillibrand signed an amicus brief, submitted to the Supreme Court, that argued for overturning a handgun ban in Washington, DC, and that private gun ownership was a guaranteed right ...
During her 2008 bid for re-election, Gillibrand campaigned on her pro-gun rights record, touting her "A" rating from the National Rifle Association. The NRA pointed to her support for the amicus brief in its endorsement of her.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/27/politics/kirsten-gillibrand-gun-record-nra-cnntv/index.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tymorial
(3,433 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
hlthe2b
(102,236 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)transplant on becoming a senator of a blue state when she wrote a bill that belied it. Her bill, too extreme to be passed, revealed a level of punitiveness and contempt for the principle of freedom of speech that are appropriate to Trump's party.
From US Campaign for Palestinian Rights:
Its exceedingly rare for members of Congress to withdraw their sponsorship of bills, especially on this issue, stated Josh Ruebner, Policy Director of the US Campaign for Palestinian Rights. We thank Sen. Gillibrand for listening to her constituents concerns about this bill and removing her sponsorship after realizing the draconian nature of the penalties it would impose on individuals exercising their First Amendment right to engage in boycotts in support of Palestinian human rights.
Btw, various revisions of this unconstitutional bill are still being pushed by others and no doubt still supported by her even if watered down. Her cosponsor for this trumpsterism was blue dog senator Ben Cardin, who's still at it with Republican Rob Portman. However, unlike hers' the newest version can't criminalize boycotters and allow the Trump admin to send them to prison for up to 20 years, plus a range of heavy civil penalties.
From the ACLU before Christmas:
Earlier versions of the Israel Anti-Boycott Act would have made it a crime possibly even subject to jail time for American companies to participate in political boycotts aimed at Israel and its settlements in the occupied Palestinian territories when those boycotts were called for by international governmental organizations like the United Nations. The same went for boycotts targeting any country that is friendly to the United States if the boycott was not sanctioned by the United States. ...
From the ACLU March 7:
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Polly Hennessey
(6,794 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rogue emissary
(3,148 posts)Didn't hurt Bernie and doesn't hurt proud gun owner Buttigieg.
To those that will ask why bring them up? Both are ahead of her in national polls and on DU's informal poll.
So clearly not being that far left on guns doesn't hurt a Democrat in this primary race.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Trumpocalypse
(6,143 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rogue emissary
(3,148 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
dsc
(52,160 posts)Guns: Supports universal background checks.
As the mayor of South Bend, Buttigieg is a member of Mayors Against Illegal Guns, a group that advocates for gun control legislation at the state and federal level. He also supports universal background checks, and opposed allowing guns in schools and so-called Stand Your Ground self-defense gun laws.
That certainly isn't the NRA friendly record you are trying to sell him as having.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
rogue emissary
(3,148 posts)Link to tweet
The NRA has been pushing racism and white nationalism for decades. So the above statement that suggests that 2017 is where they went too far is laughable.
Frankly, I'm tired of capitulating to gun owners. Democrats want to show respect or say they support the 2nd amendment. Which is most of them, is a sad reminder of how far liberalism has receded on the issue.
Buttigieg in his own words I believe we can show respect for the Second Amendment and also keep our communities safer, with common sense gun reform, he said.
Hate when a Democrat says "common sense gun reform." Nothing about guns in our country is common sense. It's about greed. Gun sellers are praying on the fear and xenophobia of gun owners. Candidates need to be for full repeal of the Gun immunity laws. If they don't support ending immunity, they're not serious about tackling this problem.
It didn't help that he continuously referred to himself as a proud gun owner. Which he always seemed to connect with the fact that he was gay. As if being gay was lesser and being a gun owner made up for it or made him more of a man.
In the primary, I'm trying to find someone as close to my positions as possible. Right now Buttigieg isn't doing it for me.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Politicub
(12,165 posts)Biden acknowledged his role in the Anita Hill hearings. And now Gillibrand says shes sorry about being pro-gun.
I appreciate the candor from both. We could use more humbleness and less braggadocio in our national discourse.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)She wasn't on my short list for the primaries regardless, but very disappointed to learn this about her.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden