Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumRemember the guy who confronted Biden at a Town Hall in Greenwood SC in November?
The one who got out of his seat, walked up to Biden and got in his face? Well, it turns out that he's on the Sanders Campaign payroll! He's being PAID to disrupt Biden's town halls.
Link to tweet
https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/joe-biden-protester-carlos-rojas-20191125.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AJT
(5,240 posts)enough is enough.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,271 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LiberalFighter
(50,942 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,271 posts)they can "win" without it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
trueblue2007
(17,223 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
garybeck
(9,942 posts)this guy was acting on his own. you are reacting like Bernie orchestrated it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
garybeck
(9,942 posts)This guy has his own organization. he is not working for Bernie. he likes Bernie's policy on immigration so he took a position on the campaign.
that is VERY different from Bernie paying him to go get in Biden's face.
the OP makes it sound like Bernie is paying people to go around and do stuff like that. False. BS. Fake News.
you can dislike this guy, his tactics, or his stand on issues. but the fact that he does work for Bernie does not in any way mean that Bernie hired him to do this stuff.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OAITW r.2.0
(24,504 posts)One thing Republicans are really,really good at is rat fucking the opposition. Governing, not so much....except the part about self-enrichment.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
certainot
(9,090 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)The Bernie bashing is reaching new heights, never before seen, which tells you only one thing... Bernie's gonna need a bigger bandwagon!!
Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ismnotwasm
(41,986 posts)Are you ok?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,271 posts)to pay someone to interrupt his ******* town halls?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Wawannabe
(5,661 posts)You already know that tho.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,271 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,271 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
garybeck
(9,942 posts)give me a break. guilt by association. that is what people in 3rd grade do.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,271 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Voltaire2
(13,042 posts)We can do better.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,271 posts)the night before the General Election.
Steven Leser Voted for Hillary.. dsirota is a big reason we have #45IMPEACHED.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dem4decades
(11,296 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,784 posts)Shocked.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,784 posts)My response was pure snark.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,291 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
billpolonsky
(270 posts)"...that he was hired as a Bernie Sanders' Latinx organizer in Iowa."
I think he is doing the disrupting on his own time.
"Rojas said Movimiento Cosecha wants Biden to acknowledge and respond to concerns over the three million deported people under Obama, and to sign onto a moratorium. During various points during his presidency, Obama stepped up deportations in an attempt to gain Republican support for a larger immigration overhaul, but that support never materialized."
"Biden, who has staked his candidacy in part on Obamas legacy, has avoided criticizing his former boss immigration policies. Of 18 Democratic presidential candidates, only Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders has said he would issue an executive order ending deportations and hes said the moratorium would only be in effect while an audit of immigration practices is completed."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)disrupter.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)NOT "bullshit". The guy on the left is being paid by the Sanders Campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)He wants zero deportations. Zero. As in no criminal aliens get deported back to their homeland. It's sheer stupidity which no one can support. So by repeatedly showing up at Biden events and agitating for an immigration policy that no one can support he is disrupting. Like a kid in class raising his hand and asking the teacher the same stupid question over and over again.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)disrupter. If he is following Biden around what is he getting done for Bernie?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)He is not going around disrupting and getting paid for it. He involved himself in a conversation. He did not set out to start this.
"Last Thursday, in a packed college gym in Greenwood, South Carolina, I stood next to Silvia, a local immigrant mother and activist, as she asked Joe Biden a question. I translated for her as she told the crowd about her daily fear of ICE separating her family. Its hard for her to trust Biden, she explained, because he has defended the millions of deportations that took place when he was vice president. Under a Biden administration, could her partner or children be next?
Silvia asked if Biden would use executive action to protect undocumented immigrants from deportation on his first day in office. Biden bluntly said no and went on to defend Obamas record on immigration. As a longtime activist, a 2008 volunteer for the Obama campaign, and a formerly undocumented immigrant myself, I pushed back and reminded him that millions of families were separated while he was vice president.
Thats when Biden interrupted me and said: You should vote for Trump."
This had nothing to do with Bernie Sanders campaign.
Press Reliese from Movimiento Cosecha:
IMMIGRANT FAMILIES SEPARATED DURING THE OBAMA YEARS TO OCCUPY BIDENS CAMPAIGN OFFICES
Families are calling for Biden to apologize for the 3 million family separations he oversaw while in the White House, and commit to using his executive authority to end all detention and deportation on day one, if elected President. They will be joined by allies who will be sitting in at Bidens campaign offices, refusing to leave until the campaign speaks with the families.
Philadelphia- Immigrant families whose loved ones were among the 3,000,000 deported while Former Vice President Biden was in the White House plan sit in at Biden campaign headquarters in Philadelphia on Wednesday. They are demanding Biden to apologize for separating their families, and commit that, if elected president in 2020, he would use his executive authority to put an immediate end to all immigrant detention and deportations. Families are also calling for Biden to commit to bringing home loved ones that were unjustly deported by the last two administrations.
Jul 12, 2019
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)until recently. These surrogates that he surrounds himself with are DEPLORABLE.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)Cosecha is a nonviolent movement fighting for permanent protection, dignity, and respect for the 11 million undocumented immigrants in the United States. Our name, "harvest" in Spanish, honors the long tradition of farmworker organizing and the present-day pain of the thousands of undocumented workers whose labor continues to feed the country. Committed to winning real victories for our community, Cosecha believes in using non-cooperation to leverage the power of immigrant labor and consumption and force a meaningful shift in public opinion.
Our movement emerged from a year and a half of strategic planning by immigrant rights and Dreamer organizers who have watched politicians battle for our votes, only to stall legislation year after year. For this reason, Cosecha doesn't rely on traditional tactics or dance with political parties. Instead, we're going on the offensive and calling for a series of strikes and boycotts to show that this country cannot function without immigrants. Our campaigns are multifaceted but all focus on building the power of the immigrant community and activating the public to our support strategy and cause.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)PRODUCTIVE than harassing the only party that does give a shit. PATHETIC is right.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)disrupting. Maybe this guy (who should be out promoting his candidate instead of following other candidates around) should go protest Obama since he is the guy who made the policy he has gripes with.
HOWS ABOUT THAT.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TidalWave46
(2,061 posts)And then called bullshit on anyone calling him a paid disruptor.
This implosion is just too rich.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)I thought he had a chance to win Wisconsin...maybe not a great one but a chance...I have since changed my mind due in large part to these sort of underhanded tricks by surrogates he hired...the buck stops with him. I hold Sanders responsible for these things and so do others who might have supported him in the primary. He has my vote in a general but not in the primary. I have stopped the text messages from his campaign because I don't give a shit and won't send him any money...should he win the nomination...which I doubt, I will restart the texts and donate, work for the campaign and vote for him...he is better than Trump. I have no interest in his primary efforts and turn off the TV when he speaks...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,993 posts)disrupting Biden's speeches?
If so, that would indicate approval of what he was doing.
IMO if a campaign is paying people who are disrupting a rival's campaign events, that's contemptible.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....maybe he was auditioning for the job? Plus, he's disrupted more than one Biden event.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)Elizabeth, New Jersey is a 12 hour drive from Greenwood, SC.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,784 posts)24 hour round trip. I don't have the time OR the money to make such a trip.
Interesting that he does.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,771 posts)Voters are sick of this kind of crap
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)is going to hurt Sanders in the end.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)OMERGERD!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)Paid employees of a campaign aren't just activists when they disrupt the events of their opponents.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lefta Dissenter
(6,622 posts)I work for the Sanders campaign, but Im here on my own time - not representing Mr. Sanders. A little transparency goes a long way.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,330 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Lefta Dissenter
(6,622 posts)Is Bernie sneering at me? 😭 That .gif is hilarious! 🤣
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)As part of a presidential primary campaign, the guy is no longer an activist, he is part of a proposed policy-making organization, and what he does in his free time DOES matter.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Imagine if the situation reversed. Sanders supporters would be screaming that it was part of a DNC conspiracy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,204 posts)hating David Sirota, who scrubbed all his anti-Hillary, slurs from social media before officially joining the the sanders campaign
Sanders has made it very clear in actions and deeds his negative feelings toward the Democratic party, and what he views as establishment Democrats according to HIS definition
He is a divisive person who is not a good candidate for the Democratic nomination because of that
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ritapria
(1,812 posts)the last time I checked .The Bernie Sanders movement are filled with kind, loving compassionate people ...They want to be bring Universal Healthcare to all people ..They want to save the Planet ...They want to stop endless wars ..They want to end grotesque Income Inequality ...This movement should not scare anyone and should not be demonized . Everyone with a good heart is Welcome
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,204 posts)We will see how that works out for him in the primaries
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Docreed2003
(16,861 posts)Who jeered John Lewis in 2016, huh..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,771 posts)Scorched earth my way or the highway... NOT!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,784 posts)The Bernie Sanders movement are filled with kind, loving compassionate people ...
Highly respected was a delegate at the convention. His daughter was screamed at and called the C word for not telling her father to change his vote to Bernie.'
That is not kind nor loving or compassionate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
58Sunliner
(4,386 posts)Lies, disinformation, what else? Why do you need to stoop to such tactics if your campaign is about transparency? I voted for Bernie, but his actions and the people who work for him tell me a different story. A lack of continuity. What happens when he gets in office? Who will he hire? If Sirota and a couple of others are any indication, it would be a disaster.
You have got to look beyond his propaganda. What has he accomplished as a senator? He can promise you any number of things, but that does not mean he can deliver. He is actually dishonest when he tells people pie in the sky objectives. He has no plan. Have you seen a budget proposal on how to accomplish his fantasies? Unlike Warren, who actually has a plan.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)And the first amendment just means the government can't drag you out of your bed and imprison you for speech...it doesn't have anything to do with the consequences of your speech in the private sector with say an employer which is why all those racist on videos get fired...sure they can speak...free country, but your boss can fire you if he chooses...free speech does not protect anyone from consequences outside of the government.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mopinko
(70,112 posts)cuz i have.
if your paid people are going rogue, someone isnt doing their job.
you dont do that shit once you are on the payroll.
take that check, you do what your candidate wants and NOTHING ELSE.
if he cant control his campaign staff, how the heck is he gonna run the country?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Last edited Fri Jan 10, 2020, 09:52 AM - Edit history (1)
So there's that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)You attract more bees with honey than vinegar. That's what you told me.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,204 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
liberal N proud
(60,335 posts)Seems the type
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)This is unacceptable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
getagrip_already
(14,757 posts)In way too many ways.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Your observation is dead on, the similarities are stunning.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)I just don't get why so many don't seem to see it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Voltaire2
(13,042 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
getagrip_already
(14,757 posts)I can insult him if I want to.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Voltaire2
(13,042 posts)we have our own trump.....In way too many ways.
By our own Trump you meant Trump?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
getagrip_already
(14,757 posts)that I was projecting bad personality traits of someone onto trump, thus insulting trump. I can insult trump no matter what you say.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Voltaire2
(13,042 posts)You said that Sanders is our own Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
getagrip_already
(14,757 posts)sarah in any of this?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Voltaire2
(13,042 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
uponit7771
(90,346 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
napi21
(45,806 posts)a disruption, Joe should smile & say "Take a message back to Bernie for me, "He's not gonna win this campaign by messing with MY speeches.!" Betcha he's get some good news coverage out of it, and MIGHT get some bad press for Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,719 posts)isn't really Bernie himself as much as the kinds of people he attracts. I did support him in 2016 but was pretty put off by his refusal to concede even after it was mathematically impossible for him to win the nomination, and especially by his supporters who tried to disrupt the convention. I switched over to Hillary with no regrets at all. This time he seems to have attracted even more fanatical supporters who apparently would do just about anything, including GOP-style ratfucking, to be sure he wins. It's beginning to turn into something pretty close to a personality cult - there's a post right here on DU claiming Bernie is the solution to everything, and there have been plenty of others in which almost any discussion breeds knee-jerk expressions of Bernie's awesomeness. This isn't only stupid, it's downright dangerous. Trump has a personality cult. We sure as hell don't want one on our side.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)And I do not see him as being the nominee. For so many reasons.
It seems that every other week, there is some snark coming from BS or some staffer.
Enough. Go back to Vermont, Bernie. Your time was "ago."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,771 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)But I was disappointed with his behavior in the general. I will never get over what I view as his underwhelming support for Hillary. I do not support him in this primary as a result of this and as a result of his campaigns behavior...starting with Flores. I will vote for him in a general but never in any primary.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(17,622 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)He is a member or Movimiento Cosecha. He is not going around disrupting and getting paid for it. He involved himself in a conversation. He did not set out to start this.
"Last Thursday, in a packed college gym in Greenwood, South Carolina, I stood next to Silvia, a local immigrant mother and activist, as she asked Joe Biden a question. I translated for her as she told the crowd about her daily fear of ICE separating her family. Its hard for her to trust Biden, she explained, because he has defended the millions of deportations that took place when he was vice president. Under a Biden administration, could her partner or children be next?
Silvia asked if Biden would use executive action to protect undocumented immigrants from deportation on his first day in office. Biden bluntly said no and went on to defend Obamas record on immigration. As a longtime activist, a 2008 volunteer for the Obama campaign, and a formerly undocumented immigrant myself, I pushed back and reminded him that millions of families were separated while he was vice president.
Thats when Biden interrupted me and said: You should vote for Trump."
This had nothing to do with Bernie Sanders campaign.
Press Release from Movimiento Cosecha:
IMMIGRANT FAMILIES SEPARATED DURING THE OBAMA YEARS TO OCCUPY BIDENS CAMPAIGN OFFICES
Families are calling for Biden to apologize for the 3 million family separations he oversaw while in the White House, and commit to using his executive authority to end all detention and deportation on day one, if elected President. They will be joined by allies who will be sitting in at Bidens campaign offices, refusing to leave until the campaign speaks with the families.
Philadelphia- Immigrant families whose loved ones were among the 3,000,000 deported while Former Vice President Biden was in the White House plan sit in at Biden campaign headquarters in Philadelphia on Wednesday. They are demanding Biden to apologize for separating their families, and commit that, if elected president in 2020, he would use his executive authority to put an immediate end to all immigrant detention and deportations. Families are also calling for Biden to commit to bringing home loved ones that were unjustly deported by the last two administrations.
Jul 12, 2019
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
llmart
(15,540 posts)n/t
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SunSeeker
(51,559 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
vsrazdem
(2,177 posts)people to want to post more negative comments about other candidates. It absolutely does nothing but divide and destroy and party, and is totally misleading. This man is a member of another coalition, and was there for that reason, not because he is on Bernie's campaign. He came to this country as a young child and has deep feelings about the immigration system. He worked on Obama's campaign, but now let us all smear him and Bernie because you don't like what Joe said to him. This is pathetic.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
still_one
(92,204 posts)Sirota does have something to do with his campaign strategy, and his periodic dissing of what he characterizes as "establishment" Democrats is extremely divisive, and I would suggest burns a lot of bridges for him in the primaries.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(49,388 posts)with a character such as that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,334 posts)I'm thinking this is a violation of that.
Seriously, this is going to new depths of low.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Politicub
(12,165 posts)Im glad the truth is coming out.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
caraher
(6,278 posts)The tweet says Rojas "was hired as a Bernie Sanders' Latinx organizer in Iowa." Organizing is a different activity from confronting Biden at a campaign event. Terruso reports nothing suggesting that Rojas was working for the Sanders campaign while he was traveling to Biden events.
An accurate description of what's going on would be something more like, "Sanders campaign hires man who confronted Biden at town halls." (Or if you want to be a bit edgier, "Sanders campaign hires man who disrupted Biden events." )
There is no evidence given that the Sanders campaign paid him to disrupt Biden events.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)Darius Khalil Gordon, Simone Zimmerman, Matt Orfalea, Linda Sarsour.
Nina Turner, Briahna Joy Grey.
David Sirota.
At what point will you say, "enough is enough"?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
caraher
(6,278 posts)LatinX organizer for Iowa is a bit down in the weeds.
But more importantly, there is a factual claim in the OP - that this man was paid by Sanders for the purpose of disrupting Biden events. There is zero evidence that he was paid for this purpose. The only fact about his employment with the campaign is his telling a reporter he had (apparently recently) been hired as an organizer.
There is no "benefit of the doubt" in play - the burden of proof lies with the person making the assertion. Even granting your belief that Sanders has hired toxic people and is therefore not to be trusted, there is no fact-based reason to accept the claim in the OP as true. This is my only point.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)I've said it before:
Once is an honest mistake.
Twice looks like incompetence.
Three times shows a pattern.
Four times begins to suggest a strategy.
Over and over, the Sanders camp does this; I'm past the point where I'll accept "we didn't know" as an excuse.
We rightfully despise Trump for inciting his followers and failing to rebuke them; I see no reason to hold Bernie to a lesser standard.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
certainot
(9,090 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)suspects. It's as absurd as trumpster bullshit.
I hated that Bernie trashed Biden the other day .but would never believe he would condone something like this.
We are 100% being played.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mountain grammy
(26,622 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
jalan48
(13,869 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)Answers, please.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Response to George II (Reply #76)
Laura PourMeADrink This message was self-deleted by its author.
maximusveritas
(2,915 posts)That should be obvious from reading anything he has said.
This is a group that believes no immigrant should be deported.
That is the most extreme view possible. Polling shows only 1-3% of people subscribe to this idea of no deportations.
For Bernie to go along with that shows how extreme he is and how easily he would get defeated in a general election.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
garybeck
(9,942 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)BS followers just eat it the fuck up.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,291 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)This is par for the course. With no substance and armed with just slogans and platitudes, the Sanders campaign can only try to tear down the real Democrats.
We know this from the Lucy Flores fiasco.
Nothing but dirty tricks.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lark
(23,102 posts)Hr is not our friend or the friend of Democracy. Why would anyone stoop to sophmorish tactics like this. If one of his staff did this, he should fire them today. Otherwise he's just proven he is very lacking in integrity.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Botany
(70,510 posts)... out now
Bernie should go home. Enough.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)screw with elections.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
58Sunliner
(4,386 posts)How do people support BS without seeing the unethical underside of his campaign. Do they think it is going to change if he takes office? Gross. Those people who are actually hired by Bernie are reflective of him in some way. Otherwise it would not be tolerated.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)the confrontation with Biden? It makes a difference.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....he should be fired.
Aside from this guy, we also had Matt Orfalea and Darius Khalil Gordon. You'd think they would know better by now.
This wasn't just a man standing up and challenging Biden's position, this is uncalled for and disrespectful:
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
garybeck
(9,942 posts)I read the article and tweet.
there is absolutely no evidence that Bernie had anything to do with this.
this guy was acting on his own about an issue that he is passionate about.
his association with Bernie means nothing.
if some volunteer for Bernie steals from a store, does that mean Bernie told him to do it?
give me a break.
this guy was acting on his own about an issue he is obviously very passionate about.
unless you can show me something that indicates that Bernie told him to do this, i consider this a lame attack on Bernie.
you can't blame Bernie for everything that all his volunteers do. and if they are getting paid to work for Bernie it means nothing at all.
guilt by association.
please don't fall into this kind of baseless attack.
anyway what he did, you're acting like he killed someone or something. give me a break. he is a little over zealous. a little too much passion is better than not enough. but regardless, if you don't like what he did, it is not correct to imply that Bernie had anything to do with it.
shameful to attack bernie for this.
maybe because you can't find an objective criticism for bernie himself, or his ideas, you have to attack him by association.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
garybeck
(9,942 posts)guilt by association.
today in the Vermont State House, a bunch of people walked in and disrupted the Governor's State of the State speech to protest lack of climate change action.
they had to stop the speech and even empty the house while the people were escorted out and some were processed for civil violations.
by your standards we should call the employers of all these people and tell them they should be fired.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)The Sanders campaign has a well-documented history of this; Darius Khalil Gordon, Simone Zimmerman, Matt Orfalea, Linda Sarsour, Nina Turner, Briahna Joy Grey, David Sirota.
Again:
Once is an honest mistake.
Twice looks like incompetence.
Three times shows a pattern.
Four times begins to suggest a strategy.
More than that is a policy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Valley Below
(1,701 posts)The buck stops with Sanders.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
kimbutgar
(21,155 posts)This is a repuke like dirty tactic.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)reported by the media. All this proves is BIDEN is running a clean campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tonedevil
(3,022 posts)telling him to vote for Trump is a petulant immature thing to do and absolutely not what I want from the Democratic candidate for President.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ecstatic
(32,705 posts)I hate most of the sneaky tactics his campaign uses. Fake push poll calls and texts, fake town hall guests, etc. It's ridiculous!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden