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Nanjeanne

(4,960 posts)
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 07:41 AM Jan 2020

Sunrise Movement Endorses Sanders

In a landslide vote — more than 75 percent of respondents — Mr. Sanders earned the backing of members of the group, which has quickly become politically influential since its founding in 2017.

Once a fledgling collection of college students, frustrated that Democrats and Republicans were not acting more quickly to curb climate change, Sunrise has grown to 318 chapters nationwide, with more than 10,000 members.

Sunrise will host an event on Jan. 12 with Mr. Sanders in Iowa City to formally announce the endorsement. “We believe a Bernie Sanders presidency would provide the best political terrain in which to engage in and ultimately win that struggle for the world we deserve,” Varshini Prakash, a founder and the executive director of the movement, said in a statement. “Senator Sanders has made it clear throughout his political career and in this campaign that he grasps the scale of the climate crisis, the urgency with which we must act to address it, and the opportunity we have in coming together to do so.”


https://nyti.ms/2tGCroA

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Sunrise Movement Endorses Sanders (Original Post) Nanjeanne Jan 2020 OP
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2020 #1
Another Super PAC? George II Jan 2020 #2
Do you have issues with the Sunrise Movement? Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2020 #3
Yes. MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #5
Any other Democrats off limits? Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2020 #10
No, they tried to cast shade where none was deserved. MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #12
I think all such groups suck...why do they never go after GOP types...we might move our Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #21
That's not the point, and this isn't the time or the place for another.... George II Jan 2020 #29
That's ABSOLUTELY the point. The OP was about the Sunrise Movement endorsement. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2020 #30
Another questionable organization started by Sanders campaign NYMinute Jan 2020 #4
Do you have a source for that claim? Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2020 #9
Is this a joke? The young climate activists are questionable? Nanjeanne Jan 2020 #11
They want what they want...but don't bother to do the heavy lifting to help folks understand Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #23
Because you know so much about these young people, I'm sure you are Nanjeanne Jan 2020 #24
I know they doctored a video and attacked Dianne Feinstein...it is all over the internet... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #34
You win! Nanjeanne Jan 2020 #36
I am sure you are being sarcastic but groups like these damage Democrats far more than GOP types. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #38
Sunrise Movement & Affiliates Me. Jan 2020 #52
They're a bunch of snot-nosed kids like that Greta girl. Why should we listen to them!?!1!? progressoid Jan 2020 #40
Are you saying his own organization endorsed him...wow that is impressive really. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #22
David Sirota has created dozens of these groups NYMinute Jan 2020 #27
So, again, you have a source for that? Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2020 #31
It is an organization with ties to the Sander campaign... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #37
That wasn't your claim. You said the Sanders campaign created the group. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2020 #41
You are mixing me up with another poster...Sanders has links to this group so...any Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #45
Interesting. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #35
Definitely ties to Sanders... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #39
Yep. Same people, different T-shirts. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #42
Did you ever notice how people have to trash every endorsement Sanders gets. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #6
Bernie does his thing while his surrogates trash everything that isn't Bernie BeyondGeography Jan 2020 #7
Pretty sad all the way around. vsrazdem Jan 2020 #8
I agree BeyondGeography Jan 2020 #19
Truly. Young people, climate activists concerned about their future - let's trash them. Nanjeanne Jan 2020 #13
Except no one is doing that. MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #16
Did you read the rest of this thread? Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2020 #18
Criticisms of this group did not just start this morning. MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #20
They shouoldn't trash Democrats who are on their side...so easy to trash Democrats for these groups Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #25
10,000 votes for Senator Sanders, if they vote. MineralMan Jan 2020 #14
"In a landslide vote..." myohmy2 Jan 2020 #15
That's the group that attacked Diane Feinstein with selectively edited video last year, right?... SidDithers Jan 2020 #17
Yep, don't know if they ever apologized for what they did, the video was propaganda, reminds me of seaglass Jan 2020 #32
Ahh, thanks for cutting through this BS. R B Garr Jan 2020 #33
Never heard of this group katmondoo Jan 2020 #26
Really? I'll attach info. They are the leading youth group re climate and strong Nanjeanne Jan 2020 #28
If they are the leading group with such small numbers than we are fucked...better stop Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #46
They started in 2017 and are one of the leading youth activists groups. 2 years. Nanjeanne Jan 2020 #47
Remember the group that commandeered Nancy Pelosi's office at the start of this term? The Valley Below Jan 2020 #43
Unfortunate ideological choice, not a committed climate one. Hortensis Jan 2020 #44
Are they an offshoot or a spin-off in some way of Cenk Uygur's "Justice Democrats"? NurseJackie Jan 2020 #48
Last time I read about them they seemed less extreme Hortensis Jan 2020 #49
There has to be some way to put them Voltaire2 Jan 2020 #50
You mean the "support the progressive wing" category? Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2020 #51
yes, that would be sufficient. Voltaire2 Jan 2020 #53
Groups that attack Democrats are not "progressive." The Valley Below Jan 2020 #56
seems logical. the new green deal is the future. Legislated or not. Kurt V. Jan 2020 #54
Awesome. I like that group. Autumn Jan 2020 #55
Young people caring about their future -- the ones with a stake in it -- but they Nanjeanne Jan 2020 #57
People seem to think because we older folks are loyal to the party young people Autumn Jan 2020 #58
 

Uncle Joe

(58,364 posts)
1. Kicked and recommended.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 07:58 AM
Jan 2020

Thanks for the thread Nanjeanne.

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Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
3. Do you have issues with the Sunrise Movement?
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 09:46 AM
Jan 2020
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MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
5. Yes.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 09:52 AM
Jan 2020

Attacking Democrats like Pelosi is fucking stupid.

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Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
10. Any other Democrats off limits?
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:17 AM
Jan 2020

Or is it just Pelosi?

I think an organization pushing those that are likely to support them to support them more fully or overtly or opening isn't a bad social movement tactic.

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MrsCoffee

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12. No, they tried to cast shade where none was deserved.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:24 AM
Jan 2020

Don’t need that kind of “help”.

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Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
21. I think all such groups suck...why do they never go after GOP types...we might move our
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 11:30 AM
Jan 2020

message into states like Iowa if they did...instead they try to take down Democrats...Not a penny from from me for this sort...and I won't vote for any of their candidates in a primary...in no time this group will disappear as they always do. We have two parties...Democratic and Republican...thus all these splinter groups that attack our side are enabling Republicans and are dead to me.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
29. That's not the point, and this isn't the time or the place for another....
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 12:21 PM
Jan 2020

...."when did you stop beating your wife" question. We seem to be seeing more and more of those to deflect from the point.

Not working here.

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Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
30. That's ABSOLUTELY the point. The OP was about the Sunrise Movement endorsement.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 12:40 PM
Jan 2020

You made a comment about them. I asked if you had a problem with them. How is that NOT the point. If anything, you are the one doing the deflection from an endorsement by young activists to an unrelated issue about PACs (which the Sunrise Movement is clearly not).

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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
4. Another questionable organization started by Sanders campaign
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 09:52 AM
Jan 2020

Have their finances been audited for sources etc.?

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Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
9. Do you have a source for that claim?
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:15 AM
Jan 2020

Or are you just assuming that young people can't do this type of organization on their own?

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Nanjeanne

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11. Is this a joke? The young climate activists are questionable?
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:23 AM
Jan 2020

Man is that a sad comment.

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Demsrule86

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23. They want what they want...but don't bother to do the heavy lifting to help folks understand
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 11:37 AM
Jan 2020

the importance of climate change...instead of broadcasting their message afar and convincing people, they attack Democratic leaders who can't do what they want-the votes are not there...their behavior hurts the climate change movement and helps elect Republicans. Get off your derriere and go out into the world and promote your cause...did they ever hear of outreach?

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Nanjeanne

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24. Because you know so much about these young people, I'm sure you are
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 11:41 AM
Jan 2020

familiar with all these thing they do — off their asses

September 20, 2019 — Global Climate Strike

On September 20th, Sunrise participated in the Global Climate Strike, the largest day of action for climate justice in world history. Over 3 million people chose to #StrikeWithUs at over 4,000 events in 150 countries. The generation of the Green New Deal took over in the U.S., and young and old strikers alike voiced demand for serious climate action across the globe.

June 2019 — DNC Headquarters Climate Debate Sit-In
Washington, D.C.
Sunrise brought the demand for a Climate Debate to the front steps of the Democratic National Headquarters in Washington, D.C., blocking the locked entrance to the building with a sit-in for three days.

April 2019 — Road to a Green New Deal Tour

1,400 people packed into a sold-out Strand Theatre in Boston to launch the Road to a Green New Deal Tour, in what was the largest Sunrise event to date. Speakers included Senators Ed Markey and Elizabeth Warren (via video), Representative Ayanna Pressley, Sunrise co-founder Varshini Prakash, and community and union leaders, including Reverend Mariama White-Hammond and the students who led the Boston Youth Climate Strike. After eight cities across the country and over 200 town halls in 46 states, the tour concluded in Washington, D.C. in a sold-out theater at Howard University. Senator Bernie Sanders, Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, author and journalist Naomi Klein, and executive director of Justice Democrats Alex Rojas were among the speakers who brought the Road to a Green New Deal

February 25, 2019 — Washington, D.C.

For a week in February 2019, young Kentuckians walked out of school and showed up outside Mitch McConnell’s office every day, asking him to look them in the eyes and tell them that the $1.9 million he’s received from oil and gas CEOs is more important than our generation’s future. When he refused to meet with them, they came to DC and joined hundreds of Sunrisers to challenge him and put all Senators on notice: If you stand with #OilMoneyMitch and the fossil fuel billionaires, we’ll come for you at the ballot box.

Just a few. But I’m sure you are doing so much more.



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Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
34. I know they doctored a video and attacked Dianne Feinstein...it is all over the internet...
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 01:11 PM
Jan 2020

I read all of that...but where is the registering of like minded voters? They support whatever group and all...but it was Kentuckians who began the attempt to hold McConnell accountable...and the doctored video is unforgivable really. Have they gone into red and or purple states and tried to register voters or get their message out? Nope. I don't support them and would never support any of their candidates in a primary.

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Demsrule86

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38. I am sure you are being sarcastic but groups like these damage Democrats far more than GOP types.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 01:31 PM
Jan 2020

Dianne Feinstein does not deserve to be treated this way...and this group only showed how untrustworthy they are by putting out a doctored video.

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Me.

(35,454 posts)
52. Sunrise Movement & Affiliates
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 07:40 PM
Jan 2020

“Together with Justice Democrats and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the group organized a sit-in in the office of Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, which brought Sunrise its first significant press coverage.[3] Sunrise organized a similar event in February 2019, bringing a group of young people to confront Senator Dianne Feinstein in her office.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunrise_Movement

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progressoid

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40. They're a bunch of snot-nosed kids like that Greta girl. Why should we listen to them!?!1!?
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 02:26 PM
Jan 2020




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Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
22. Are you saying his own organization endorsed him...wow that is impressive really.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 11:32 AM
Jan 2020
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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
27. David Sirota has created dozens of these groups
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 11:53 AM
Jan 2020

and many have the same people as members.

They dribble and stagger the endorsements to make it look like Bernie has "momentum."

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Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
31. So, again, you have a source for that?
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 12:41 PM
Jan 2020

I would love to see why you are claiming that the Sunrise Movement is a fake organization. Still waiting.

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Demsrule86

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37. It is an organization with ties to the Sander campaign...
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 01:28 PM
Jan 2020

"The top aides joining Sanders’ organizing team, led by Sandberg, are a mix of new faces and 2016 alumni.

Bernie Sanders
2020 ELECTIONS

"Sanders raises $18 million in first quarter of presidential campaign
By HOLLY OTTERBEIN, Becca Rast will be the campaign’s national field director, after managing Jess King’s unsuccessful campaign for Congress in Pennsylvania last year. She was a board member of the Sunrise Movement, a group of young environmental activists pushing for the "Green New Deal."

Please note she is a board member of Sunrise movement and managed King's (endorsed by Sanders who held rallies for him) losing campaign...so Sunrise has board members who work for the Sanders campaign and Sunrise endorsed Sanders...wow how not surprising. Sanders endorsed her candidate and now she works for him and she is on the Sunrise board.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/03/bernie-sanders-2020-volunteers-1246524

https://lancasteronline.com/news/politics/bernie-sanders-endorses-jess-king-in-lancaster-congressional-race/article_33fd693e-4a52-11e8-bc87-f3c43786f323.html

"





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Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
41. That wasn't your claim. You said the Sanders campaign created the group.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 02:29 PM
Jan 2020

The data you use to support you (changed) claim actually shows that the Sunrise Movement predates the point where the person you are using to show ties to Sanders was actually with Sanders.

So, the claim you made was false. Thanks for proving that.

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Demsrule86

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45. You are mixing me up with another poster...Sanders has links to this group so...any
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 05:27 PM
Jan 2020

endorsement is worthless...a member of the Sunrise board works for him... I put it in the post...no matter how you look at it.. not a good look for Sanders...who must at this point be desperate.

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Demsrule86

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39. Definitely ties to Sanders...
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 01:45 PM
Jan 2020

One of their board members left to join the campaign.

"


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The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
42. Yep. Same people, different T-shirts.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 02:30 PM
Jan 2020

The Sunrise Movement's are yellow.

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vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
6. Did you ever notice how people have to trash every endorsement Sanders gets.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:10 AM
Jan 2020
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BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
7. Bernie does his thing while his surrogates trash everything that isn't Bernie
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:13 AM
Jan 2020

This is where it leads.

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vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
8. Pretty sad all the way around.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:15 AM
Jan 2020
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Nanjeanne

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13. Truly. Young people, climate activists concerned about their future - let's trash them.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:24 AM
Jan 2020
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MrsCoffee

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16. Except no one is doing that.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:35 AM
Jan 2020

Thinking particular strategies are stupid is not equivalent to trashing youth and climate activists.

I think they should be shining the light on and harassing the people who are actually actively working to destroy this planet instead of casting shade on those who have been fighting the good fight and have our backs.

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Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
18. Did you read the rest of this thread?
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:39 AM
Jan 2020

Or the others posted?

It's just like a super PAC.
Sanders campaign created this organization.
They won't vote Dem if it's not Bernie.
They will just go back to partying if it's not Bernie.

Plus a lot more. People are shitting on this group pretty heavily this morning. I wonder why.

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MrsCoffee

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20. Criticisms of this group did not just start this morning.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:56 AM
Jan 2020

I wonder why.

Just reading the Co-founder director’s twitter makes me cringe.

Democrats, the Democratic Party and their leadership are not the enemies or the obstacles we face in this crisis.

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Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
25. They shouoldn't trash Democrats who are on their side...so easy to trash Democrats for these groups
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 11:47 AM
Jan 2020

They don't have to go out and win heart and minds to their cause...just preach to the choir an attack Democratic leaders...it is the same as the musical chairs some activist play...primarying safe Democratic seats...not willing to go and do the hard work and sell our superior message to people...what purpose to these groups serve? What have they accomplished?

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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
14. 10,000 votes for Senator Sanders, if they vote.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:31 AM
Jan 2020

I mean, it's nice that they issued an endorsement, but it's not really a large, well-recognized group. A minor story.

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myohmy2

(3,163 posts)
15. "In a landslide vote..."
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:33 AM
Jan 2020

...the American people are speaking...

...we should all listen carefully...

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SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
17. That's the group that attacked Diane Feinstein with selectively edited video last year, right?...
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:35 AM
Jan 2020
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211854688

Did they ever walk that back, or apologize, for misrepresenting Feinstein?

Sid
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seaglass

(8,171 posts)
32. Yep, don't know if they ever apologized for what they did, the video was propaganda, reminds me of
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 12:45 PM
Jan 2020

O'Keefe. Sunrise Movement is dismissed. Totally not surprised by this endorsement though.

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R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
33. Ahh, thanks for cutting through this BS.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 12:55 PM
Jan 2020

It gets so tiresome.

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katmondoo

(6,457 posts)
26. Never heard of this group
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 11:52 AM
Jan 2020
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Nanjeanne

(4,960 posts)
28. Really? I'll attach info. They are the leading youth group re climate and strong
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 11:57 AM
Jan 2020

proponents of the Green New Deal. You can read about them here:

https://www.sunrisemovement.org/

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Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
46. If they are the leading group with such small numbers than we are fucked...better stop
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 05:32 PM
Jan 2020

going after Democrats like Feinstien and work on recruiting more people.

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Nanjeanne

(4,960 posts)
47. They started in 2017 and are one of the leading youth activists groups. 2 years.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 06:19 PM
Jan 2020

Read outside your bias and try to not be endlessly negative. You don’t like Bernie. Fine. Why do you care if an organization of young people dedicated to the Green New Deal do? Why such negativity? Does it make Biden a better candidate? Chill out a little. Bernie isn’t going to win as far as your concerned. So party on and stop pissing on everything Bernie. These young people should be applauded for caring about their future.

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The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
43. Remember the group that commandeered Nancy Pelosi's office at the start of this term?
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 02:46 PM
Jan 2020

That's them.

Same people. Different shirts.

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
44. Unfortunate ideological choice, not a committed climate one.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 05:01 PM
Jan 2020

Sanders has NO record of significant achievement even in those issues he's been passionately devoted to, which are basically limited to economic universalist ideologies, and he has a very long record of failing to influence others around him. He's been self exiled in the center of power for nearly 30 years.

Biden, otoh, has been an important ally in congress for environmental groups for decades.

This is a very foolish, impractical endorsement, and I'm disappointed in this group, not surprised, but it's natural to hope for better with so much at stake.

VERY fortunately, we have many very serious professional climate warriors (who ran for congress and state governments to work on climate etcetera from within the centers of power), and they are working with private sector counterparts around the nation and planet who don't let politics lead them down rabbit holes.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
48. Are they an offshoot or a spin-off in some way of Cenk Uygur's "Justice Democrats"?
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 06:25 PM
Jan 2020

Seems like that was the case. I also recall that their logos were almost identical too (or based on a common shape/design to indicate, suggest or hint that they were "related" in some way... paying homage to their PAC roots.)

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
49. Last time I read about them they seemed less extreme
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 06:36 PM
Jan 2020

and oppositional, more sincere and focused, than the JD-associated pols who were using the "green new deal" slogan as a political platform. They had some good connections in climate groups interested in what they could contribute. But there was overlap, and this vote suggests the political power seekers won. They may have been flooded with fringe types also. I don't know. I also don't know that they're a lost cause just because of this.

But I remember the Green Party as being started long ago by some intelligent, well meaning people to organize people to create an environmentally healthy nation, but almost as soon as they opened for business they were flooded with the kind of dysfunctional sorts who tend to rotate through today. At least the L.A. one I was very interested in joining, and then immediately not.

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Voltaire2

(13,042 posts)
50. There has to be some way to put them
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 07:31 PM
Jan 2020

in a safe category to dismiss. Has to be.

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Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
51. You mean the "support the progressive wing" category?
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 07:37 PM
Jan 2020

Seems like that's all they need.

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Voltaire2

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53. yes, that would be sufficient.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 07:47 PM
Jan 2020

Obviously these children are being manipulated by Nefarious Agents of Sarandon.

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The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
56. Groups that attack Democrats are not "progressive."
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 08:39 PM
Jan 2020

Full stop.

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Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
54. seems logical. the new green deal is the future. Legislated or not.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 08:02 PM
Jan 2020
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Autumn

(45,096 posts)
55. Awesome. I like that group.
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 08:25 PM
Jan 2020

Last edited Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:41 PM - Edit history (1)

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Nanjeanne

(4,960 posts)
57. Young people caring about their future -- the ones with a stake in it -- but they
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:34 PM
Jan 2020

like Bernie - so they are meaningless twits. But hey, they better vote Dem when the election comes. No matter how much we piss in their cornflakes!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Autumn

(45,096 posts)
58. People seem to think because we older folks are loyal to the party young people
Thu Jan 9, 2020, 10:44 PM
Jan 2020

must be loyal too, or else. It doesn't work that way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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