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The long knives really seem to be out for Amy Klobuchar. (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 OP
Yes... about as disproportionate as it could be. hlthe2b Feb 2019 #1
Where is that happening? CentralMass Feb 2019 #6
Klobuchar NYT and Huffington Post really going after her hlthe2b Feb 2019 #8
Interesting. CentralMass Feb 2019 #13
They were after her before her official annoncement. dogman Feb 2019 #19
No, the stories are true and she is not denying any of it. Stupid. Nt USALiberal Feb 2019 #25
It has compounded since the first stories and I've seen no indication she has responded to latest hlthe2b Feb 2019 #31
It's called picking them off, one by one. crazytown Feb 2019 #2
The Klobuchar attacks are in the main stream press. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #3
I believe they started at HuffPo and then it filtered up until they got it into the New York Times emulatorloo Feb 2019 #7
I've been skeptical of the Times since they promored the bogus comradebillyboy Feb 2019 #14
Agreed. emulatorloo Feb 2019 #42
Where are the stories about the others? Links please! Nt USALiberal Feb 2019 #26
I posted a piece upstream about the Russian bots explosion on social media--against Harris most hlthe2b Feb 2019 #33
The russians are going to be very active spreading misinformation calguy Feb 2019 #34
Who bought the Huffington Post? CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #4
Verizon Media dogman Feb 2019 #20
Owned by Verizon. Fla Dem Feb 2019 #22
Remember "Nanny-gate"? Not in the history if the nation had any AG nominee been asked about... Hekate Feb 2019 #5
Amy was my top pick but poisoning new jobs does piss me off Cicada Feb 2019 #9
Sure, it would be for most... But, is it really true? hlthe2b Feb 2019 #10
I always believed she was bit of a long shot but the pile on seems unduly mean. DemocratSinceBirth Feb 2019 #12
She needs to punch back hard, or she is finished. marylandblue Feb 2019 #11
Wrong...she just needs to wait for the debates Awsi Dooger Feb 2019 #18
Nope, she needs to deny the stories or explain them. Nt USALiberal Feb 2019 #28
I like Klobuchar too, mostly for her rollout marylandblue Feb 2019 #38
Here's a link to NYT article about Klobuchar in case you missed it. rgbecker Feb 2019 #15
It worked in Senator Al Franken's case. Mme. Defarge Feb 2019 #16
Klobuchar has failed to counter claims she's been an abusive boss. Paladin Feb 2019 #17
So has Bernie. MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #21
Links??? Nt USALiberal Feb 2019 #24
Ok. MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #27
Thank you, makes me glad he was not our nominee!! Nt USALiberal Feb 2019 #35
You will also see in the linked article the people who list this as a strength. MrsCoffee Feb 2019 #32
Exactly my experience Bradshaw3 Feb 2019 #40
The two I had were both male. Paladin Feb 2019 #41
All she need to do is say she never threw objects at any staff, simple soloution. Nt USALiberal Feb 2019 #23
Like all Hillary had to say was "I didn't send anything classified?" leftofcool Feb 2019 #36
LOL, Hillary did deny it and won the nomination, so it helped!! USALiberal Feb 2019 #37
Reminds me of stories I heard about Rep (Admiral) Sestak in PA Trenzalore Feb 2019 #29
Clearly. Nobody's perfect, I wish she was but mahina Feb 2019 #30
Internally? Competitors. Externally? Media horse race underpants Feb 2019 #39
 

hlthe2b

(102,236 posts)
1. Yes... about as disproportionate as it could be.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:26 PM
Feb 2019

She really frightens someone.

Likewise the intense flurry of bots going after Harris.

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CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
6. Where is that happening?
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:31 PM
Feb 2019
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hlthe2b

(102,236 posts)
8. Klobuchar NYT and Huffington Post really going after her
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:33 PM
Feb 2019
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dogman

(6,073 posts)
19. They were after her before her official annoncement.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 03:42 PM
Feb 2019

The msm has also repeatedly imply that T-Rump calling Warren Pocahontas" is her fault. And they continue to give T-Rump free campaign commercials. They are the same as clickbait online, they need views and people have accepted news that doesn't answer basic journalism questions.

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USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
25. No, the stories are true and she is not denying any of it. Stupid. Nt
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 04:09 PM
Feb 2019
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hlthe2b

(102,236 posts)
31. It has compounded since the first stories and I've seen no indication she has responded to latest
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 04:15 PM
Feb 2019

It is quite easy to draw premature conclusions with the onslaught of accusations when MSM propagates. Sort of reminds me of the Hillary e-mail and Bengahazi pile-on.

So, no, neither you nor I know the validity of these latest accusations, the source, or whether they are corroborated.

I say this as one who does NOT have her among my top five candidates for consideration--but surely among my top 10.

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
2. It's called picking them off, one by one.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:26 PM
Feb 2019

There’s also a huge amount attacking Harris being uploaded on YouTube. Search and you’ll get something critical near the top of the list.

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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
3. The Klobuchar attacks are in the main stream press.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:28 PM
Feb 2019
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emulatorloo

(44,120 posts)
7. I believe they started at HuffPo and then it filtered up until they got it into the New York Times
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:33 PM
Feb 2019

Of course I am very skeptical of the Times since the promoted the debunked Mercer hit piece “Clinton Cash” in 2016.

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comradebillyboy

(10,144 posts)
14. I've been skeptical of the Times since they promored the bogus
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:40 PM
Feb 2019

Whitewater scandal in 1992 and have been on an anti-Clinton jihad ever since. They also were great cheerleaders for Bush's Iraq invasion. So the Times has a history of Journalistic malpractice going all the way back to the Spanish American War.

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USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
26. Where are the stories about the others? Links please! Nt
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 04:10 PM
Feb 2019
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hlthe2b

(102,236 posts)
33. I posted a piece upstream about the Russian bots explosion on social media--against Harris most
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 04:19 PM
Feb 2019
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calguy

(5,306 posts)
34. The russians are going to be very active spreading misinformation
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 04:20 PM
Feb 2019

Trump has done nothing to stop them.

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CrossingTheRubicon

(731 posts)
4. Who bought the Huffington Post?
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:29 PM
Feb 2019

Not that it was ever much of a news source, but now it seems to be part of an anti-Democratic ((((echo chamber)))).

Sick of this BS!

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Fla Dem

(23,656 posts)
22. Owned by Verizon.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 04:04 PM
Feb 2019
On February 7, 2011, AOL acquired The Huffington Post for US$315 million, making Arianna Huffington editor-in-chief of The Huffington Post Media Group. The site later became part of Verizon Communications, which purchased AOL on May 12, 2015 for US$4.4 billion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HuffPost



Lydia Polgreen Named Editor-In-Chief Of The Huffington Post

The New York Times’ “rising star” becomes the site’s second newsroom leader, following founder Arianna Huffington.
By Michael Calderone
Dec 6, 2016 - NEW YORK

NEW YORK ― Lydia Polgreen, a New York Times associate masthead editor and editorial director of NYT Global, has been named editor-in-chief of The Huffington Post.

Polgreen, 41, will succeed Arianna Huffington, the news site’s namesake co-founder who left the company in August to launch Thrive Global, a company and website focused on health and wellness.

More>>>
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/lydia-polgreen-huffington-post_us_5846ef54e4b0fe5ab693122b
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Hekate

(90,674 posts)
5. Remember "Nanny-gate"? Not in the history if the nation had any AG nominee been asked about...
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:29 PM
Feb 2019

...the family nanny.

Until that nominee was a woman.

What a coinkydink.

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Cicada

(4,533 posts)
9. Amy was my top pick but poisoning new jobs does piss me off
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:35 PM
Feb 2019

Being a mean boss is sad but irrelevant. But cAlling new employers to get job offers rescinded is too much for me.

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hlthe2b

(102,236 posts)
10. Sure, it would be for most... But, is it really true?
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:36 PM
Feb 2019

or one disgruntled former employee (or worse, a made up "employee" ) ?

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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
12. I always believed she was bit of a long shot but the pile on seems unduly mean.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:37 PM
Feb 2019

That being said if she poisoned new job that is not right.

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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
11. She needs to punch back hard, or she is finished.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 02:37 PM
Feb 2019

Every candidate can expect stinking piles of crap to be thrown at them. It's unavoidable. They must pick it up and throw it back. She did a good job initially. She can't let up. Trump won't.

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Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
18. Wrong...she just needs to wait for the debates
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 03:39 PM
Feb 2019

Amy may have made mistakes with staff but I trust her big picture instincts. That's one of the reasons I support her.

The last thing we need is someone who thinks they have to immediately react to every charge. If we get stuck with a person like that it will be nothing but a spinning top. Turn left to respond to this. Spin right to respond to that. Non stop. Always on defense. The opposition salivates once that frailty is recognized.

We have several candidates who unfortunately will fall into that trap against Trump.

Against an incumbent we need someone who is likable and will put a handful of major themes into the public dialog in short summary. Beto and Amy fit best, IMO. But I realize we are more of a policy-wonk party and will probably screw it up.

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USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
28. Nope, she needs to deny the stories or explain them. Nt
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 04:11 PM
Feb 2019
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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
38. I like Klobuchar too, mostly for her rollout
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 04:39 PM
Feb 2019

Great image of her standing in the snowstorm. And as soon as the first attacks came out she said, "That's right, I am a tough boss, I am a snow woman, let's talk about climate change." Good answer. Now she should say, "Combgate? That's pretty funny, North Korea still has nuclear weapons while Trump gets another photo op. That's not so funny."

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Mme. Defarge

(8,028 posts)
16. It worked in Senator Al Franken's case.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 03:03 PM
Feb 2019
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Paladin

(28,254 posts)
17. Klobuchar has failed to counter claims she's been an abusive boss.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 03:10 PM
Feb 2019

If you've ever been subject to maltreatment by a supervisor---as I have, on a couple of occasions---you get an understanding of what sort of damage can be done, and how long that damage lasts. If Klobuchar ends up as the Democratic nominee, she'll have my vote. At present, I find there are candidates more worthy of my support.

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MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
21. So has Bernie.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 03:57 PM
Feb 2019

In fact I don't think he has even addressed it. I saw a couple articles in 2015 with claims of how abusive he is and then it just quietly subsided.

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MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
27. Ok.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 04:11 PM
Feb 2019

Anger Management: Sanders Fights for Employees, Except His Own

https://www.sevendaysvt.com/vermont/anger-management-sanders-fights-for-employees-except-his-own/Content?oid=2834657

"As a supervisor, he was unbelievably abusive," says one former campaign staffer, who claims to have endured frequent verbal assaults. The double standard was clear: "He did things that, if he found out that another supervisor was doing in a workplace, he would go after them. You can't treat employees that way."

Like several others quoted in this column, the campaign worker would speak only on the condition of anonymity, saying that to do otherwise would constitute "career suicide" in a small state such as Vermont. But others echoed the former employee's story, saying the senator is prone to fits of anger.

"Bernie was an asshole," says a Democratic insider who worked with Sanders on the campaign trail. "Just unnecessarily an asshole."

"He yelled in meetings all the time," says one of Sanders' former Senate staffers. "He'd yell, 'I don't want to hear excuses! I want to get it done!'"

"At his best, Sanders is a skilled reader and manipulator of people and events," Rosenfeld wrote. "At his worst, he falls prey to his own emotions, is unable to practice what he preaches (though he would believe otherwise) and exudes a contempt for those he derides, including his staff."
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USALiberal

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35. Thank you, makes me glad he was not our nominee!! Nt
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 04:23 PM
Feb 2019
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MrsCoffee

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32. You will also see in the linked article the people who list this as a strength.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 04:16 PM
Feb 2019

That’s how he gets things done, blah blah.

People don’t say that about women.

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Bradshaw3

(7,517 posts)
40. Exactly my experience
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 05:25 PM
Feb 2019

I've had two bosses like this, one male and one female. It has nothing to do with being "strong" or a "tough boss" but everything to do with using power to exorcise some personal issues. If these are true, shows me she would not be a good aministrator, which is very relevant to choosing our nominee for President.

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Paladin

(28,254 posts)
41. The two I had were both male.
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 07:46 PM
Feb 2019

And you're absolutely correct---it was all about twisted personal issues they had, and their eagerness to inflict those maladjustments on those who reported to them. Makes me grateful for the good, sound, well-adjusted bosses for whom I worked.

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USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
23. All she need to do is say she never threw objects at any staff, simple soloution. Nt
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 04:07 PM
Feb 2019
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leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
36. Like all Hillary had to say was "I didn't send anything classified?"
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 04:31 PM
Feb 2019

It won't matter what she says. The right will go after her and the left will go after her. She isn't pure enough.

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USALiberal

(10,877 posts)
37. LOL, Hillary did deny it and won the nomination, so it helped!!
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 04:39 PM
Feb 2019
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Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
29. Reminds me of stories I heard about Rep (Admiral) Sestak in PA
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 04:12 PM
Feb 2019

She's my second choice. Stories give me pause. I don't believe the most salacious stories but I believe there is something there.

It used to be you wanted this stuff out in a primary so the public was inoculated against it in the general but the right wingers are calling Elizabeth Warren Pocohantas 6 years after they first started doing it so I don't know.

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mahina

(17,651 posts)
30. Clearly. Nobody's perfect, I wish she was but
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 04:15 PM
Feb 2019

It’s very obvious someone in power has identified her as a threat.

Why? It’s an attack in her strength, as always.

She’s personable, relateable, likeanle and reasonable, and a moderate. The wingers want us to nominate someone they can ‘other’ as too extreme.

It would be hard to credibly argue to the country that trump or winger x is the lesser of two evils. She would shine.

And I am undecided.

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underpants

(182,788 posts)
39. Internally? Competitors. Externally? Media horse race
Sat Feb 23, 2019, 04:40 PM
Feb 2019
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