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George II

(67,782 posts)
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:23 PM Jan 2020

Bernie Sanders's campaign goes on the attack as he seeks a victory in the Iowa caucuses

By Annie Linskey and Sean Sullivan
Jan. 12, 2020 at 8:28 p.m. EST

MARSHALLTOWN, Iowa — Sen. Bernie Sanders's presidential campaign has suddenly gone on the attack as he seeks to secure an opening victory in the early February caucuses, engaging in a rare dispute with Sen. Elizabeth Warren, tussling with former vice president Joe Biden and drawing an insult from President Trump.

Although Sanders (I-Vt.) mostly had resisted comparing himself with other candidates, over the weekend, his surrogates and aides intensified their attacks on Biden, targeting his past positions on racial issues and his vote to sanction the Iraq War.

At the same time, his campaign went after Warren (D-Mass.), with whom Sanders has shared a nonaggression pact for much of the primary season. A script first reported by Politico told Sanders’s volunteers to tell voters they called on Sanders’s behalf who had indicated support for her that Warren’s popularity was limited to the rich and educated — effectively denigrating her electability.

Both candidates struck back either personally or through their own surrogates on Sunday.

Warren told reporters in Iowa that she was “disappointed” with Sanders’s campaign script painting her as an elitist. She used the opportunity to warn about “factionalism” that led to Democrats losing the White House in 2016, a reference to the belief by many Democrats that Sanders and his supporters failed to sufficiently support Hillary Clinton against Donald Trump.

“I hope Bernie reconsiders and turns his campaign in a different direction,” Warren added.


(more.... a good read)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bernie-sanderss-campaign-goes-on-the-attack-as-he-seeks-a-victory-in-the-iowa-caucuses/2020/01/12/7a8addb4-356f-11ea-9541-9107303481a4_story.html#click=https://t.co/p3c4aQx31R
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Bernie Sanders's campaign goes on the attack as he seeks a victory in the Iowa caucuses (Original Post) George II Jan 2020 OP
Let him enjoy his few moments in the sun question everything Jan 2020 #1
Breaking the pledge means an untrustworthy candidate nt NYMinute Jan 2020 #2
He seems scared. nt sheshe2 Jan 2020 #3
the mask is off and the real bernie is coming out nt msongs Jan 2020 #4
Shades of Bernie 2016. SaschaHM Jan 2020 #5
Here's What I Remember About Caucuses From The Last Time Around Me. Jan 2020 #6
Sanders consistently lets us know. He did this in the past. Bummfuzzle Jan 2020 #7
Good analogy!! Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #8
ugh EveHammond13 Jan 2020 #9
+1 TexasTowelie Jan 2020 #10
We need a unifier. R B Garr Jan 2020 #11
Again with the horsehockey billpolonsky Jan 2020 #12
Did you forget the link? caraher Jan 2020 #16
What the fuck is a "volunteer slack channel"? OilemFirchen Jan 2020 #18
Poll average after poll average shows there is no real clear winner Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #13
Pointing out Joe's Senate Record ritapria Jan 2020 #14
yeah, Let's "point out BS' "Record".. sirota is editing shit Cha Jan 2020 #19
Not a good look relayerbob Jan 2020 #15
It is self-destructive behavior. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #17
 

question everything

(47,487 posts)
1. Let him enjoy his few moments in the sun
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:28 PM
Jan 2020

This, too, shall pass.

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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
2. Breaking the pledge means an untrustworthy candidate nt
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:29 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

msongs

(67,420 posts)
4. the mask is off and the real bernie is coming out nt
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:32 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
5. Shades of Bernie 2016.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:37 PM
Jan 2020

Did he get a bad internal poll or something? The campaign is stepping on the positive messaging that they got from the DMR poll and just setting up debate confrontations.

He's no longer the scrappy upstart, he won't escape this coverage like he did in 2016.

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Me.

(35,454 posts)
6. Here's What I Remember About Caucuses From The Last Time Around
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:38 PM
Jan 2020

1. They are no indicator of who the nominee will be

2. Less democratic than primaries

3. OPen to strong arming for someone's preferred candidate.

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Bummfuzzle

(154 posts)
7. Sanders consistently lets us know. He did this in the past.
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:39 PM
Jan 2020

He gets a little momentum and he is so gonna trash any momentum he had with this nasty behavior. Sanders cannot call how to be successful for anything. If there was a misstep to be made, Sanders always found it and proving to do it again. Ensures failure.

Then of course, everyone else will get the blame. But, he is being consistent.

As far as I am concerned, Sanders can just bring it on, and thank you for the gift and throwing those brakes on. Appreciate it.

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Undecided
 

Thekaspervote

(32,778 posts)
8. Good analogy!!
Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:53 PM
Jan 2020

His own worst enemy

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R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
11. We need a unifier.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 12:03 AM
Jan 2020

Not this slop.

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billpolonsky

(270 posts)
12. Again with the horsehockey
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 12:12 AM
Jan 2020

Earlier, Politico released a story about how Bernard "slammed" Warren. See link below. The controversy was over a volunteer script. Here is the key passage: "The script instructs Sanders volunteers to tell voters leaning toward [Warren] that the "people who support her are highly-educated, more affluent people who are goign to show up and vote Democrativ no matter what" and that "she's bringing no new bases into the Democratic Party.""

First, campaigns explicitly instruct volunteers to never say anything negative about another candidate. Second, that is a very measured and accurate response. Third, really take a moment to think long on the idea that any measure or statement of facts hurts competition -- especially when the script said."I like Elizabeth Warren! in fact she is my second choice.”

Last but not least... the script is 100% unofficial and not at all a part of the campaign. The script originated from a new user on a volunteer slack channel. A moderator on the channel deleted it immediately.

The media, always wanting to cover the horserace, seized on this. They talked to Warren. So you get where this is headed, the headline began with "Bernie campaign SLAMS Warren" and now it's morphed to "Bernie is sending his volunteers out to trash me."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

caraher

(6,278 posts)
16. Did you forget the link?
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 01:40 AM
Jan 2020

Or was it in another post? I'd like to confirm the story. Thanks!

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OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
18. What the fuck is a "volunteer slack channel"?
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 01:50 AM
Jan 2020

Is it run by mandatory slacks?

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Thekaspervote

(32,778 posts)
13. Poll average after poll average shows there is no real clear winner
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 12:14 AM
Jan 2020

Delegates will be shared.

IA has 3... that is three EC votes... such a fuss.

Will be glad when sanders goes home to VT

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ritapria

(1,812 posts)
14. Pointing out Joe's Senate Record
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 12:47 AM
Jan 2020

is not " going on the attack" …..Bernie had nothing to do with that document pointing out that Elizabeth's supporters tend to be highly educated and affluent … Saying Joe was running for President in the wrong Party constitutes "going on the attack"

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Undecided
 

Cha

(297,323 posts)
19. yeah, Let's "point out BS' "Record".. sirota is editing shit
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 05:11 AM
Jan 2020

on Biden.. that's a fucking smear job.

This is what David Sirota is spreading on twitter:

He's repeating misleading truncated quotes of Joe Biden AND circulating a graphic calling Biden "blue trump".


https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287403646




The BS campaign obviously doesn't feel they can win without these kinds of "attacks".. pity.
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relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
15. Not a good look
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 01:34 AM
Jan 2020

Appearing desperate at getting so much money and still only moving the needles a little. Look out for the repeat the scorched earth tactics of 2016, when I stopped supporting Sanders and changed my opinion of the man permanently. Progressives have more than one choice this time.

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The Valley Below

(1,701 posts)
17. It is self-destructive behavior.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 01:45 AM
Jan 2020
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