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*NEW* IDP/TIPP (A/B Rated) Poll - Biden 26% (-); Warren 20% (+6); Sanders 15% (-3); Buttigieg 9% (-) (Original Post) Skya Rhen Jan 2020 OP
Don't like today's poll? Wait a day. JaneQPublic Jan 2020 #1
Those aren't stories.. they are campaign fodder... getagrip_already Jan 2020 #2
When the poll averages change... then I'll pay attention Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #4
Indeed. PatrickforO Jan 2020 #5
Joe's polls never change much... LakeArenal Jan 2020 #3
Warren and Sanders are splitting the left wing. apnu Jan 2020 #6
I'm with you... pfeiffer Jan 2020 #7
Left Wing DownriverDem Jan 2020 #8
Yes, the left wing isn't the whole party. apnu Jan 2020 #13
Support for sanders and warren is almost evenly split with half going to Biden Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #12
Exactly apnu Jan 2020 #15
according to the poll in the OP NewJeffCT Jan 2020 #16
This IBD/TIPP poll has a severe built-in anti-Bernie bias ritapria Jan 2020 #9
Thank you for unskewing the poll...nt SidDithers Jan 2020 #11
Did you see the highly rated Iowa poll? Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #14
Blame the media, question the polls, rinse, lather, repeat as necessary. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #17
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2020 #10
 

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
1. Don't like today's poll? Wait a day.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 01:18 PM
Jan 2020

Then next one will show a totally different trend.

The ink is hardly dry on the news stories saying that Warren's supporters are flocking to Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
2. Those aren't stories.. they are campaign fodder...
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 01:19 PM
Jan 2020

wishful thinking not born out in reality.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,778 posts)
4. When the poll averages change... then I'll pay attention
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 01:22 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatrickforO

(14,576 posts)
5. Indeed.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 01:24 PM
Jan 2020

Well, pollsters gotta earn a living too!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,820 posts)
3. Joe's polls never change much...
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 01:22 PM
Jan 2020

Steady and consistent.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

apnu

(8,758 posts)
6. Warren and Sanders are splitting the left wing.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 01:25 PM
Jan 2020

This is net positive for Joe Biden. Not much will change until Sanders or Warren drop out. I hope its Sanders, as you can see I'm all in for Warren, but Sanders is stubborn, he'll ride this until the bitter end. Draining and splitting the left wing of the Democratic party. I think Biden will wind up the Dem nominee because of this, he needs only to sit back and let the left eat its own.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pfeiffer

(280 posts)
7. I'm with you...
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 01:28 PM
Jan 2020

Warren is my strong second. I really want her to outlast Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
8. Left Wing
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 01:35 PM
Jan 2020

Let's hope they really want to beat trump in November. They really are in the minority.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

apnu

(8,758 posts)
13. Yes, the left wing isn't the whole party.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 02:31 PM
Jan 2020

This is a big tent, we all have our space under it and should know that we share space.

I think Warren gets that. She's been a party member for a long time, she's come up the ranks with other party members, she's paid her dues, she given blood and sweat just as much as any other Democratic Party member. I think most Democratic Party members respect that and, I suspect, she respects her competitors on the same grounds.

I think, in party politics this, counts.

Sanders is always an outsider, by choice. Clearly there is space for him under the tent, he doesn't have to be in this state of constant insurgency, this is clearly a choice he makes. And the downside of that choice he will never be seen and trusted like Warren is.

Its not about left wing, moderates, or progressiveness, this is a party nomination, so reputation and respect in the party is a major factor.

It seems to me, that Sanders and his people don't get that. That they can some how wow us all with their arguments and intellectual righteousness. I find this ironic with this flap over Sander's speech leak, where he's accusing Warren of some "affluent" economic privilege and digging at Democratic intellectuals for supporting her. He is what he accuses Warren of, this is a petty hypocrisy I don't like.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(32,778 posts)
12. Support for sanders and warren is almost evenly split with half going to Biden
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 02:18 PM
Jan 2020

I doubt either will drop out much b4 the convention so it doesn’t appear it will give the “left” as you call it the push they need to surpass Joe Biden

If I were to vote in a presidential
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apnu

(8,758 posts)
15. Exactly
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 02:57 PM
Jan 2020

For Warren or Sanders to have a shot, one or the other has to go, their politics are too identical. I agree that both are likely to hang around for a long time.

I give the edge to Warren, because she's a long time party member and has paid her dues. I think party members respect that. But a war of attrition is bad for both of them against Biden.

I have no idea what's going to happen, I'm looking forward to the early primaries to start seeing some real data. This is the calm before the storm. In a few months, its going to get intense.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
16. according to the poll in the OP
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 03:13 PM
Jan 2020

Warren was first among liberals (30%), followed by Biden (22%) and then Sanders (19%)

so, you could say that Warren and Biden are splitting the liberal vote and allowing Sanders to stay in the race.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ritapria

(1,812 posts)
9. This IBD/TIPP poll has a severe built-in anti-Bernie bias
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 01:42 PM
Jan 2020

Here has been their stupid results on Bernie : August 12% ..September 12% ...October 12% .. November 13%...December 18%...January 15% ………...With the exception of December , it has understated Bernie's national support by around 6% ..Bernie is around 21% -the 6% anti-Bernie has returned again. ...They claim Elizabeth generates more enthusiasm than Bernie amongst voters aged 25 - 44 ...That is a loony tunes finding ...As for their Democratic Primary sample size , it is a whopping 333 voters ...333? …..IBD is a far-right financial publication that despises Bernie …. Anyone but Bernie ...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
11. Thank you for unskewing the poll...nt
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 01:47 PM
Jan 2020

Sid

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
14. Did you see the highly rated Iowa poll?
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 02:35 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
17. Blame the media, question the polls, rinse, lather, repeat as necessary.
Mon Jan 13, 2020, 03:32 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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