Bernie Sanders told Elizabeth Warren in private 2018 meeting that a woman can't win, sources say

[RandySF]

(CNN)The stakes were high when Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren met at Warren's apartment in Washington, DC, one evening in December 2018. The longtime friends knew that they could soon be running against each other for president.

The two agreed that if they ultimately faced each other as presidential candidates, they should remain civil and avoid attacking one another, so as not to hurt the progressive movement. They also discussed how to best take on President Donald Trump, and Warren laid out two main reasons she believed she would be a strong candidate: She could make a robust argument about the economy and earn broad support from female voters.
Sanders responded that he did not believe a woman could win.

The description of that meeting is based on the accounts of four people: two people Warren spoke with directly soon after the encounter, and two people familiar with the meeting.

That evening, Sanders expressed frustration at what he saw as a growing focus among Democrats on identity politics, according to one of the people familiar with the conversation. Warren told Sanders she disagreed with his assessment that a woman could not win, three of the four sources said.

Sanders denied the characterization of the meeting in a statement to CNN.

"It is ludicrous to believe that at the same meeting where Elizabeth Warren told me she was going to run for president, I would tell her that a woman couldn't win," Sanders said. "It's sad that, three weeks before the Iowa caucus and a year after that private conversation, staff who weren't in the room are lying about what happened. What I did say that night was that Donald Trump is a sexist, a racist and a liar who would weaponize whatever he could. Do I believe a woman can win in 2020? Of course! After all, Hillary Clinton beat Donald Trump by 3 million votes in 2016."



https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/13/politics/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-meeting/index.html

[Cha]

1. There's two of these but I don't care..

That evening, Sanders expressed frustration at what he saw as a growing focus among Democrats on identity politics, according to one of the people familiar with the conversation. Warren told Sanders she disagreed with his assessment that a woman could not win, three of the four sources said.

[George II]

2. Just saw them talking about this on CNN....

I'll bet she really liked hearing that.

[Cha]

16. Good it's out there..

Link to tweet

[getagrip_already]

3. if said, that is full on pig speaking

Of course a woman can win. One almost did.

Lets just hope it ends up being a dem and not a republican. I couldn't live under a heir halley.

To say that to a female candidate is way beyond the pale. IF he said it, he should be ashamed, but surely isn't.

Misogynistic. Yes, if said, it fits that definition.

[redstatebluegirl]

5. One didn't almost win, she did win.

[getagrip_already]

7. but isn't in power... sigh....

I agree. No other candidate would have done as well. They would have withered under the assault of russia, saudi arabia, the nra, most of corporate media, both houses of congress, the fbi/doj, and lots and lots of fake fb and twitter bots, as well as disgruntled voters on the far left.

But she isn't in power......

[redstatebluegirl]

8. No but she did get the majority of votes, which means his nutcase idea that a woman can't win

is just that, nuts.

[melman]

4. Two days in a row we see highly dubious "Bernie mean to Warren" stories

Seems totally legit.

[getagrip_already]

9. well, in this case....

It surely came from the warren camp. But what did the sanders camp expect? You live in a glass house and you throw stones. You aren't the only one with stones to throw, and if you break a non-aggression pact, aggression is sure to come back towards you.

[ehrnst]

21. +1000.

[Iliyah]

6. I'm surprised he said that to her . . . . .

[abqtommy]

10. As I recall, in 2016 a woman named Hillary won the popular vote by a count of 3 million. She

"lost" the election due to ratfuckery. Nobody could have won given the circumstances. Sounds to
me like Bernie was just trying to discourage a strong competitor who happens to be a woman.

[pansypoo53219]

11. i do see so much rampant zombie puritanism still exists. women stay in your place.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

12. Believing this means also believing Warren chose to not disclose this information and continued to

praise him in a professional capacity.

[RandySF]

13. Which is very possible.

If she wanted to maintain a nonaggression pact.

[aikoaiko]

14. I'd have to hear it from Warren herself and that he used those words.

I could see Bernie saying that identity politics is not going to win which some could misconstrue as him saying a woman could not win.

[dualboy24]

15. Yeah I don't think anyone would believe this

Bernie and Warren have been good friends for years, he is extremely pro women and there is zero chance this is what was said.

[redqueen]

17. "sources say" - are we really doing this? Cause there's a SHITLOAD of "sources say" crap out there

and this leaves the door wide open for people to start sharing this kind of shit on DU.

[SidDithers]

18. Now confirmed by the NYT...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/13/us/politics/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren-woman-president.html


Sid

[RandySF]

19. 'The Warren campaign declined to comment on Monday.'

[ehrnst]

20. Not surprised by this at all. Nor was I surprised that HRC won by 3 million. (nt)

[SmallDonor]

22. The surge is happening and here come the preplanned corporate attacks!

Bernie says this and that about Warren all of a sudden when the polls tighten and of course the establishment hits the panic button lol!