Flores continues her attack on Biden, claims she isn't doing this because she's a Bernie supporter

[highplainsdem]

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I've been giving her the benefit of the doubt, but I'm beginning to wonder if I should.

For one thing, i noticed belatedly that her essay in The Cut

https://www.thecut.com/2019/03/an-awkward-kiss-changed-how-i-saw-joe-biden.html

brought up that GOP-pushed smear of Biden's behavior with Defense Secretary Ash Carter's wife while they listened to Ash speaking. Flores wrote that Biden was nuzzling Stephanie Carter's neck, when in fact the video the article links to shows it was nothing of the sort -- Biden was whispering in her ear, and she nodded and smiled about what he'd said. The Carters both made it clear, years ago, that this wasn't the gross behavior the GOP and some in the media tried to suggest it was.

Bur Flores is pushing that smear now.

She wants people to believe not only her misinterpretation of what happened to her, but her misinterpretation of Biden's interactions with other women. Misinterpretations pushed by the GOP.

She wants Biden to do "a lot more to acknowledge how his behavior might have made me and the other women he has done that to feel," according to the NYT's Sydney Ember.

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Btw, the photo with that tweet, of Flores so clearly happy to be with Biden, was taken just AFTER Biden had supposedly upset her so much.

Anyway, I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt. I thought it was likely she'd made an unfortunate misinterpretation of Biden's attempt to reassure her.

But when she tries to claim she has no political motivations for making this attack now, I don't believe her. Not when she's dragging a debunked smear into it.

Sadly, Elizabeth Warren and Julian Castro have said they do believe her story. I've been seeing tweets about that in the last half hour.

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At least they didn't follow this up with saying Biden shouldn't run, but I'm still disappointed in them.

It was obvious from Flores's own account that she appeared to be nervous, which would have made it likely Biden would try to reassure her. And she was self-conscious about not having washed her hair that day, so Biden being that close could have made her more self-conscious and resentful.

People misinterpret things all the time. But in this case she's using a misinterpretation -- and a misinterpretation of other women's experiences, not just her own -- to try to end Biden's 2020 run before it begins.

Oh, and regarding the photo in that tweet of Flores beaming as she stands next to Biden onstage, after the offstage incident she's tried to depict as so upsetting...

A male friend of hers had lots of pictures from that event, too. Cristobal Alex. He's told her that what she's claiming now doesn't match his recollection, or what was in the photos he took:

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[we can do it]

1. More BS🤮

[snowybirdie]

2. And did you know

Amy is mean to her employees, Elizabeth claims Native American ancestry, and Kamala was a hard hearted prosecutor, and etc..........

We go with the one who can WIN!

[highplainsdem]

3. I agree. We go with the one who can win.

[dem4decades]

4. I dislike Bernie more every day. Has he released his tax returns yet?

Have all his dirty tricksters identified themselves yet or only after they've been outed?

[bigtree]

6. THIS is why this smear is insidious

..the association of Bernie Sanders with this conspiracy theory is over the top and should not be allowed here.

It's profoundly unfair to his campaign and supporters.

[NurseJackie]

16. Nobody is smearing him.

THIS is why this smear is insidious

Nobody is smearing him.

over the top and should not be allowed here.

Have you spoken with the management about it? What do they say?

It's profoundly unfair to his campaign and supporters.

Really? How so? I'm not seeing it. Can you elaborate?

[sheshe2]

17. Great points. nt

[Cha]

21. Yeah, BS is the one who hired 3rd party

"attack dogs".. I don't think it's unfair at all to question the BS campaign and their surrogates.

Sanders Promised Civility but Hired Twitter Attack Dog - The Atlantic

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/03/sanders-promised-civility-hired-twitter-attack-dog/585259/

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Hopefully it will BackFired

[True Blue American]

30. Any one remember

Karl Rove? Pappa Bush fired him for dirty tricks. Junior hired him for dirty tricks.

[Demsrule86]

20. She is on the board Of our revolution.

[NastyRiffraff]

45. "Smear" "Vetted"

Unfortunately for him and his supporters, he's being vetted this time, just like every other candidate. Even Bernie should be vetted. I realize that's heresy, but it's still true.

[trueblue2007]

52. yrah i agree with you and i am suspitious of her comments ... she changes the story .... why is that

[BlueFlorida]

5. She is trying to do damage control

and Sirota is probably going to be helping.

These are the typical tactics of one candidate to purposely weaken all opponents so they will not win the General Election because he knows in his heart that he will never win the Democratic nomination.

[BannonsLiver]

7. Her status as a devoted Sanders supporter invites extra scrutiny.

That’s just the way it is. Personally, I think it’s 100 percent why she came forward. We’ve seen this movie before with O’Rourke last winter (albeit the subject of those coordinated attacks was different).

[JI7]

9. she also had a problem with criticism of sanders himself

when it came to sexual harassment on his campaign.

[Cha]

23. I saw this yesterday and why I don't trust her..

from 2017 after the GE..

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And, now with her "friend" speaking out.. plus "revolution", and BS' recent 3rd party "attack dogs".

Sanders Promised Civility but Hired Twitter Attack Dog - The Atlantic

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/03/sanders-promised-civility-hired-twitter-attack-dog/585259/

[Tipperary]

27. Wow. Thanks for posting this

I just saw Flores on Tapper, and I did not find her credible.

[Cha]

39. Really? Can

you tell me how she acted to get that conclusion?

Mahalo, Tipperary

[Tipperary]

42. I think mostly because every time he pressed a question hard she would pivot to saying

“Hey you can look up all the times he has been inappropriate with women.” She kept saying that, as if trying to bolster her own claim. I don’t know - it just hit me wrong.

[Cha]

43. Thanks.. Flores' has already been accused of "misrepresenting"

herself by her friend, Cristobal Alex..

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".. that what she remembered did not match my recollection or what was in the photos.."

He felt "sucker punched and surprised that their private conversation was included and worse.. it misrepresented me".

Imagine if Cristobal Alex had not spoken up?

[Tipperary]

44. Yes, her motives are pretty clear.

Sanders must be loving this.

[MustLoveBeagles]

32. Thank you for this

I don't doubt that the incident with Biden happened but I think think she's deliberately misrepresenting it.

[Cha]

40. Exactly, MustLoveBeagles.. she "misrepresents"..

Flores' own friend, Cristobal Alex, discredited her as someone who "misrepresents"..

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".. that what she remembered did not match my recollection or what was in the photos.."

He felt "sucker punched and surprised that their private conversation was included and worse.. it misrepresented me".

[Thekaspervote]

35. +1000

[Cha]

41. ..

Mahalo, Thekaspervote

[doc03]

8. So we are going to do another Al Franken while

we have a piece of garbage as president.

[yardwork]

26. This tactic is coming from Sanders' surrogates.

[MustLoveBeagles]

33. It sure seems that way doesn't it?

[Turbineguy]

10. Does this have to be binary?

Choice 1: Biden is a sex offender.

Choice 2: Flores is a liar.

[highplainsdem]

13. I've tried very hard NOT to make this binary. I've made it clear that I don't think Flores is lying

about what happened, but that she's misinterpreting it.

I don't know how to put any positive spin on her lie about Biden and Ash Carter's wife, though, since that smear was debunked years ago and she brought it up again and wrote a completely inaccurate description of what actually happened with Stephanie Carter in her essay.

[Turbineguy]

14. I wasn't actually criticizing your post

But elsewhere it seems be that way.

[highplainsdem]

15. Thanks for explaining, and I'm sorry about misreading your post.

[Demsrule86]

19. I select 2...and add the word partisan.

[Pisces]

11. Wow, I hope the friends response gets as much attention as the article.

[ucrdem]

12. "did not match my recollection or what was in the photos"

Yeah I noticed that too.

[Cha]

22. And, this is Lucy Flores in 2017.. after the GE

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Yes, imagine if Cristobal Alex had not spoken up?

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".. that what she remembered did not match my recollection or what was in the photos.."

He felt "sucker punched and surprised that their private conversation was included and worse.. it misrepresented me".

[Mario Luigi]

18. Why now, Lucy?

Why weren't you so bothered before Biden became a threat to the candidate that previously endorsed you?

[dalton99a]

24. Bingo.

[yardwork]

25. Biden endorsed her opponent in the primary.

[PubliusEnigma]

28. Is this the best that Bernie can do? I thought he was an idea man.

Instead he is acting like a Trump man.

[UniteFightBack]

37. Oh that stung. Best response it the thread. nt

[Kahuna7]

29. Her friend who attended the event just exposed her as a liar...

because she claimed a conversation that he says didn't occur in the context she claims. Also he has photos from the event and nothing he has would support her account of the interaction with Biden.

[Autumn]

47. That friend also didn't disclose he works for Biden now. nt

[Kahuna7]

49. That says a lot about his character to work for a respectable man like Biden.

[stonecutter357]

31. Joe Biden is my second choice .

[Kahuna7]

50. I think a lot of us are Joe and Beto fans. On Beto's facebook group..

a lot if not most of Beto's supporters also like Joe.

[David__77]

34. I think it doesn't matter whether what she said was true or not.

If he put his hands on her shoulders and kissed her on the back of the head, I don’t see it as disqualifying. I don’t think I need come to the conclusions Flores is a liar to also conclude that I don’t care much about this accusation. Not arguing against your post- just commenting!

[katmondoo]

36. She may not be a liar but she is certainly over reacting

Looks like ulterior motives involved

[David__77]

38. I can understand how you'd conclude overreaction.

I expect that this cycle of accusation-litigation I’m the realm of physical contact by politicians will play out numerous times.

I had the same conclusion in the Keith Ellison matter. I didn’t see what was accused as disqualifying and as for me, there wasn’t much to consider.

[Demsrule86]

46. She is lying event planner said it isn't true. Someone is going to have to explain the why.

[UniteFightBack]

48. Yes she encouraged everybody to google joe whatever whatever. What a great Democrat she is! nt

[EveHammond13]

51. I find her disgusting.

[ificandream]

53. So Bernie can but Joe can't?

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