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highplainsdem

(48,987 posts)
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:18 PM Jan 2020

Vice: Sanders' embrace of Rogan's endorsement is "an unforced error"

Last edited Mon Feb 3, 2020, 12:02 AM - Edit history (1)

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/jgep94/joe-rogan-bernie-sanders-endorsement


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Rogan's endorsement of Sanders is notable because unlike Johnson, Sanders has an actual shot at taking the White House, and in a close race, gaining the support of even a portion of Rogan’s massive, loyal audience could be a difference maker. What’s less clear is why the Sanders campaign embraced and promoted the endorsement, knowing that Rogan is controversial and hated by parts of his base. Rogan’s endorsement is so influential, his audience so large, that it’s not even clear Sanders needed to acknowledge it because Rogan’s audience rivals (and is likely larger than) his own. Who is Sanders reaching with a Joe Rogan video clip that Rogan hasn’t already reached?

Rogan's endorsement, and the video Sanders shared on Twitter in particular, has caused some controversy among people who argue that Rogan is a bigot who should be marginalized, ignored, or disavowed.

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What seems to have made lots of people mad, however, is that Sanders has embraced the endorsement. What’s worth noting is that it’s not clear that Sanders sharing the video is actually going to earn him any more voters. Sanders, of course, has a huge audience, but Sanders’ reach is almost certainly smaller than Rogan’s. Sanders’ clip has 3.2 million views on Twitter. Rogan’s audience fluctuates and it’s notoriously difficult to get reliable podcast statistics (especially if you don’t work for that podcast), but if Rogan’s 190 million downloads per month figure is accurate, we could conservatively estimate that each episode is getting far more than 3.2 million downloads.

This is why it’s impossible to “amplify” Joe Rogan: He has an audience bigger than nearly anyone in the country, and to ignore that he exists and that people like him is to remove yourself from reality. There’s little danger in Sanders tweeting this video and radicalizing people because Rogan’s audience is already huge. But sharing the video and tacitly accepting Rogan’s endorsement feels like an unforced error, or at least a risk Sanders didn’t need to take: He’s opened himself up to criticism from parts of his base who care about social justice, marginalized people, and stand against the people and ideas Rogan has allowed to be laundered on his show, without really standing to gain anything.

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Vice: Sanders' embrace of Rogan's endorsement is "an unforced error" (Original Post) highplainsdem Jan 2020 OP
That guy is disgusting Not going to help sanders with the AA and LBGQT vote Thekaspervote Jan 2020 #1
I can't stand Rogan...so disappointed in Sanders. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #2
He may also have been a birther squirecam Jan 2020 #3
More and more disgusting. highplainsdem Jan 2020 #4
Yep squirecam Jan 2020 #5
It's okay, everybody! This endorsement will help Bernie win, and then the economic policies he WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2020 #6
Thank you for this, highplainsdem.. Cha Jan 2020 #7
His endorsement of the misogynist Cenk Uygur was also an unforced error. NurseJackie Jan 2020 #8
KICK! Cha Feb 2020 #9
Evidently Rogan is still planning on voting for trump Gothmog Feb 2020 #10
???? Hadn't heard that. When did he say that? highplainsdem Feb 2020 #11
Here you are Gothmog Feb 2020 #12
That was taken out of context. Quixote1818 Feb 2020 #13
No it was not Gothmog Feb 2020 #15
Rogan was a Birther. Zolorp Feb 2020 #14
 

Thekaspervote

(32,770 posts)
1. That guy is disgusting Not going to help sanders with the AA and LBGQT vote
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:41 PM
Jan 2020
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Demsrule86

(68,577 posts)
2. I can't stand Rogan...so disappointed in Sanders.
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:49 PM
Jan 2020
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highplainsdem

(48,987 posts)
4. More and more disgusting.
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:45 PM
Jan 2020
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WhiskeyGrinder

(22,350 posts)
6. It's okay, everybody! This endorsement will help Bernie win, and then the economic policies he
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:02 PM
Jan 2020

puts in place will help Joe Rogan feel more economically secure and get him to drop any bigoted opinions. Just be patient!!!1! We'll get there!1!!!!!111111!1!!1111111

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Cha

(297,249 posts)
7. Thank you for this, highplainsdem..
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 07:37 PM
Jan 2020
Rogan hasn't wielded his power with much responsibility: He's given people like Chuck Johnson, Milo Yiannopoulos, Alex Jones, Stefan Molyneux, and Gavin McInnes access to his gigantic audience, and Rogan rarely challenges his guests on their views, allowing them to launder their bad ideas on his show. ...
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NurseJackie

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8. His endorsement of the misogynist Cenk Uygur was also an unforced error.
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 10:18 PM
Jan 2020

I mean it really doesn't take a lot of research (a simple google search) to learn all about him. And a youtube search would reveal his defense of animal sexual abuse (bestiality) and in his mind, it's okay as long as the abused animal is sexually satisfied, too.

Totally disgusting. Cenk makes me want to vomit.

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Gothmog

(145,268 posts)
10. Evidently Rogan is still planning on voting for trump
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 06:50 PM
Feb 2020

That has to hurt

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highplainsdem

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11. ???? Hadn't heard that. When did he say that?
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 07:00 PM
Feb 2020
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Quixote1818

(28,941 posts)
13. That was taken out of context.
Sun Feb 2, 2020, 10:08 PM
Feb 2020

Can you please check stuff out before blindly posting it? He was saying "Why should people listen to me?" Claiming he didn't understand the complexities of thing and said maybe we are better off with Trump or maybe we are better off with Sanders or whomever? In a matter of fact way to suggest he is humble about his expertise on the complexities of politics.

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Gothmog

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15. No it was not
Mon Feb 3, 2020, 01:55 AM
Feb 2020

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