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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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Wow..GOP waiting to see if JB Impeachment slams affect IOWA (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 OP
I think she was just giving her state a shoutout. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #1
Trump is trying to pump up Bernie...almost never says anything negative about him scheming daemons Jan 2020 #5
That's not what he says in private. Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #7
Trump literally broke the law and committed impeachable offenses to stop Biden scheming daemons Jan 2020 #8
JUST NO.. you have no idea what trump "says in Private".. Cha Jan 2020 #10
Don't you just hate the way the trump cultist lie and make shit up just to make their dishonest and Squinch Jan 2020 #11
oh did you need the recording? Tiggeroshii Jan 2020 #13
Yes - and who was it that leaked that audio, again? ehrnst Jan 2020 #36
Who knew that Trump turns completely sane and stable in private? ehrnst Jan 2020 #15
He was talking about 2016, right? Qutzupalotl Jan 2020 #31
You've met with Trump? mcar Jan 2020 #40
And yet in private he says he's most worried about Bernie. DanTex Jan 2020 #12
Yes, he's so stable when he's not in public, isn't he? ehrnst Jan 2020 #14
Not stable, just saying what he thinks. DanTex Jan 2020 #16
So now you "don't care what Trump thinks" but "what he says in private is important" because... ehrnst Jan 2020 #17
Are you quoting someone else? Did you reply to the wrong post? DanTex Jan 2020 #18
You're DanTex, right? ehrnst Jan 2020 #20
Yeah, but that stuff in quotes wasn't me. DanTex Jan 2020 #21
This is you, right? ehrnst Jan 2020 #22
That's me yes. What you put in quotations, no. DanTex Jan 2020 #23
Nice try at evasion... ehrnst Jan 2020 #24
I'm not evading, just saying you quoted something I didn't write. Which you did. DanTex Jan 2020 #25
This is your post, yes? ehrnst Jan 2020 #26
That's not what you put in quotes. Go check! DanTex Jan 2020 #27
Let's review - ehrnst Jan 2020 #29
Right. So can you see the part you misquoted? DanTex Jan 2020 #32
"I know you are but what am I?" ehrnst Jan 2020 #33
Quotation marks are typically used for quotations. DanTex Jan 2020 #34
You've been corrected, now haven't you? ehrnst Jan 2020 #35
I guess we have disagreement about the meaning of quotation marks. No worries! DanTex Jan 2020 #37
Still going to evade that question about who Russia was backing, aren't you? ehrnst Jan 2020 #38
Holy cow! You just got put through the ringer! You ok? Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #42
What he thought of a Clinton/Sanders ticket in 2016..... ehrnst Jan 2020 #39
I don't believe that...actions speak louder than words. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #43
He can't wait to scream "Socialist" Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #41
Oh bull.. stop trying to cover for joni.. Cha Jan 2020 #9
Are you defending a GOP now? Joni really...and if Trump was worried about Sanders... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #45
You're absolutely right. Lots of Russian and GOP propaganda already souring this race. Squinch Jan 2020 #2
I may switch to Biden. 33taw Jan 2020 #3
Yeah!!! Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #44
Russian disinformation? On DU? How to 'vet' posters? YOHABLO Jan 2020 #4
??? dewsgirl Jan 2020 #30
I wonder how they would be able to tell rurallib Jan 2020 #6
The whole Bondi skreed was an anti Joe ad. floppyboo Jan 2020 #19
We agree on this. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #46
The GOP is a giant fraud. C_U_L8R Jan 2020 #28
That image of Earnst is horribly unflattering. In addition to disgracing herself she looks bad comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #47
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
1. I think she was just giving her state a shoutout.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:54 PM
Jan 2020

Trump has already privately admitted that he was most worried about Bernie getting the VP nod in 2016 because of his stance on trade.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
5. Trump is trying to pump up Bernie...almost never says anything negative about him
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 06:09 PM
Jan 2020

...because he wants to face him.


He's trying to dupe you.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
7. That's not what he says in private.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 06:12 PM
Jan 2020

He actually agrees with Bernie on a lot, and might actually like him. But he won't enjoy losing to him which he realizes will happen if Bernie is the nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
8. Trump literally broke the law and committed impeachable offenses to stop Biden
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 06:13 PM
Jan 2020

.... conversely, he does everything he can to "legitimize" Bernie and help him split the Democrats.



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(297,196 posts)
10. JUST NO.. you have no idea what trump "says in Private"..
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 06:17 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
11. Don't you just hate the way the trump cultist lie and make shit up just to make their dishonest and
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 06:24 PM
Jan 2020

stupid points? I sure do.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
13. oh did you need the recording?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 06:37 PM
Jan 2020
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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
36. Yes - and who was it that leaked that audio, again?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:33 PM
Jan 2020

And who thinks that Trump is somehow suddenly stable and consistent when he's in private....



Besides, he was talking about being worried about a Clinton/Sanders ticket in 2016, from what I can tell.




If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
15. Who knew that Trump turns completely sane and stable in private?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 08:56 PM
Jan 2020

Last edited Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:47 PM - Edit history (1)

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Qutzupalotl

(14,311 posts)
31. He was talking about 2016, right?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:20 PM
Jan 2020

And worried about a Clinton/Sanders unity ticket.

Different field this time around. A lot of key events in the Ukraine saga coincide with the release of polls showing Biden trouncing Trump, which tells me he's terrified of Biden. I don't see Trump hunting for dirt on Sanders. Maybe he thinks he already has enough.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mcar

(42,311 posts)
40. You've met with Trump?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 10:03 PM
Jan 2020

He likes Bernie? How nice. He agrees with him? On what, exactly?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
12. And yet in private he says he's most worried about Bernie.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 06:28 PM
Jan 2020

Hmm, what do you think we should believe? What he says in public? Or what he's caught saying in a private conversation.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
14. Yes, he's so stable when he's not in public, isn't he?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 08:55 PM
Jan 2020

I guess that public persona is just a wiley game, and he's completely sane when he's with his inner circle.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
16. Not stable, just saying what he thinks.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 08:57 PM
Jan 2020

I mean, I don't care what Trump thinks, it's the anti-Bernie people that keep trying to say that Trump wants to run against Bernie. I don't know why they care about that, but to the extent that anyone thinks it matters, Bernie is the one he fears most.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
17. So now you "don't care what Trump thinks" but "what he says in private is important" because...
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 08:59 PM
Jan 2020

it shows what "he really thinks...."



"To a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
18. Are you quoting someone else? Did you reply to the wrong post?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:02 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
20. You're DanTex, right?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:05 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
21. Yeah, but that stuff in quotes wasn't me.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:06 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
22. This is you, right?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:07 PM
Jan 2020


You really think that Trump is secretly stable? That we should believe that what he says, in an audio released by a republican, is the basis for his campaign strategy?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
23. That's me yes. What you put in quotations, no.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:08 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
24. Nice try at evasion...
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:09 PM
Jan 2020


You think that what Trump thinks at a given moment should be taken as his campaign strategy, or something that he will still be thinking the following day?

The Pentagon doesn't listen to him...




If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
25. I'm not evading, just saying you quoted something I didn't write. Which you did.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:09 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
26. This is your post, yes?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:11 PM
Jan 2020


And this:



Are you saying that you changed your mind, or you just can't admit I caught you contradicting yourself?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
27. That's not what you put in quotes. Go check!
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:13 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
29. Let's review -
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:19 PM
Jan 2020

I made this comment, and the quotes indicate what you claimed:



And here's what it's referring to:



And this:



Both are your posts, yes? And they indeed confirm my characterization of what you indeed claimed, yes?


You recently did a 180 from "Hillary won the nomination, no one gave it to her" to "Bernie handed her the nomination."

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=452232

So, yeah, you do contradict yourself sometimes. Just own it, OK?

Now, are you going to answer my question about why Russia was backing Sanders, as per the Mueller report, or are you going to continue to evade that as well?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
32. Right. So can you see the part you misquoted?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:24 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
33. "I know you are but what am I?"
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:28 PM
Jan 2020

Is that where you've landed?

The quotes indicated what your claims were, not the actual words.

You know that, but you're going to grip onto any possible interpretation that makes me sound like I didn't show exactly how you contradicted yourself in a single thread.

I mean the complete reversal to Hillary being handed the nomination by Bernie took a day, but this is right there in the same thread.

Maybe you need some sleep.


But before you go, can you answer why you think that Russia backed Bernie, as the Mueller report found? I mean if he's such a threat to Trump and the GOP, as you say, why would they be pushing for him?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
34. Quotation marks are typically used for quotations.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:29 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
35. You've been corrected, now haven't you?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:31 PM
Jan 2020

Now we've settled what you said, and how it was contradictory, like the complete reversal to Hillary being handed the nomination by Bernie right there in the same thread....


Why are still evading answering why you think that Russia backed Bernie, as the Mueller report found? I mean if he's such a threat to Trump and the GOP, as you say, why would they be pushing for him?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
37. I guess we have disagreement about the meaning of quotation marks. No worries!
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:36 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
38. Still going to evade that question about who Russia was backing, aren't you?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:45 PM
Jan 2020

Must be a real uncomfortable fact for you to keep on posting and posting in an effort to derail me or get me to give up (silly!!).

Even more embarassing and uncomfortable than me pointing your contradicting posts today on the significance of what Trump thinks (as if someone could ever nail that down) and your COMPLETE about face that I called you out on yesterday:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=452232

Facing facts shouldn't be a problem if you are truly confident in your positions, should it?



Admiting one is wrong is part of being an adult. Or an effective legislator or POTUS candidate.

Which is why I support Warren. Besides, she has the respect and regard of her colleagues in the Senate, with much less time there than Joe Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
42. Holy cow! You just got put through the ringer! You ok?
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 01:11 AM
Jan 2020

Pretty wild to see it happen to other people. Drag.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
39. What he thought of a Clinton/Sanders ticket in 2016.....
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:49 PM
Jan 2020

Is relevant how?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Demsrule86

(68,563 posts)
43. I don't believe that...actions speak louder than words.
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 01:12 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
41. He can't wait to scream "Socialist"
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 01:06 AM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,196 posts)
9. Oh bull.. stop trying to cover for joni..
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 06:15 PM
Jan 2020

trump is pumping up BS and you know it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,563 posts)
45. Are you defending a GOP now? Joni really...and if Trump was worried about Sanders...
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 01:18 AM
Jan 2020

Sanders would be the one he sent Giuliani after...he says nice things about Sanders all the time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
2. You're absolutely right. Lots of Russian and GOP propaganda already souring this race.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 05:56 PM
Jan 2020

And lots of it showing up here. Again.

My ignore list is growing, full of people who lie, distort, and generally act disgusting. Again.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
4. Russian disinformation? On DU? How to 'vet' posters?
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 06:05 PM
Jan 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

rurallib

(62,413 posts)
6. I wonder how they would be able to tell
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 06:12 PM
Jan 2020

with so many still undecided and various polls giving differing winners and different placements.

Besides, Phony Joni is just a fucking idiot.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

floppyboo

(2,461 posts)
19. The whole Bondi skreed was an anti Joe ad.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:05 PM
Jan 2020

It was disgusting and Roberts should have asked how what she was saying was material to the case. I didn't watch any of it today. Still feel defiled.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

C_U_L8R

(45,002 posts)
28. The GOP is a giant fraud.
Tue Jan 28, 2020, 09:15 PM
Jan 2020

It's quite shameless. A fucking criminal enterprise.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

comradebillyboy

(10,147 posts)
47. That image of Earnst is horribly unflattering. In addition to disgracing herself she looks bad
Wed Jan 29, 2020, 01:36 AM
Jan 2020

doing it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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