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pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 11:34 PM Mar 2019

*** Lucy Flores left Our Revolution in May 2018 ***

So can we please stop saying she's a liar when she says she hasn't yet endorsed anyone, including Bernie?

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/24/our-revolution-bernie-sanders-staff-changes-607330

Velasquez’s departure follows the resignation of Lucy Flores, a former Nevada assemblywoman and fellow founding board member, who quit in April over her own anger at Our Revolution for, in her view, ignoring issues important to Latinos.

SNIP


Scroll down to see the current Board, in the blue box on the right. She's not listed.

https://ourrevolution.com/about/






To set the record straight, I haven’t endorsed any presidential candidate including Sanders. But even if I had endorsed someone, that doesn’t erase the multiple pictures, articles & the well known “open secret” abt Biden’s inappropriate behavior. This shld been addressed long ago
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*** Lucy Flores left Our Revolution in May 2018 *** (Original Post) pnwmom Mar 2019 OP
Actually she is. sheshe2 Mar 2019 #1
That is a non-updated page. She publicly left the org and that is reflected on their Mission page. pnwmom Mar 2019 #2
They should really update that page. TwilightZone Apr 2019 #3
Interesting that it has been a year. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #5
Perhaps they should update their links and page. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #4
They're a pretty disorganized bunch, from what I've heard. n/t pnwmom Apr 2019 #6
No kidding. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #8
Bottom tweets.. Burn! Cha Apr 2019 #20
Thanks Cha True Blue American Apr 2019 #22
LUCY FLORES said horrible things about Hillary. I can't stand her and don't believe a word she says trueblue2007 Apr 2019 #39
That she belonged to this disreputable radical group at all, Hortensis Apr 2019 #27
Wow just wow. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #35
:) Thing is, Lucy Flores is and was a professional politician Hortensis Apr 2019 #37
I agree. I was admiring your post. One of the best written posts I have Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #38
Is she credible ..... interesting tweet and photo trueblue2007 Apr 2019 #40
She is still a surrogate and her story reeks. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #34
So she's an Our Revolution alum, like Nomiki Konst, who was also on CNN lying about Biden highplainsdem Apr 2019 #7
+++++ sheshe2 Apr 2019 #9
I bet Konst was happy to be Cha Apr 2019 #17
Her attempts to create John Fante Apr 2019 #10
She's too obvious.. she should Cha Apr 2019 #18
Makes no difference whatsoevery. ucrdem Apr 2019 #11
No they don't. No one's released any pictures of her standing in the dark, just offstage, pnwmom Apr 2019 #12
Exactly. ucrdem Apr 2019 #13
How do either of those pictures contradict her story? pnwmom Apr 2019 #16
She said she was completely unfamiliar with him and that he violated her personal space and UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #19
Post removed Post removed Apr 2019 #21
Joe isn't hugging Flores there! Is that why she is unhappy? True Blue American Apr 2019 #23
Look at the "side boob" photo again... Agschmid Apr 2019 #31
Missed my point. But as you can see Flores is standing SO CLOSE HER BOOB IS TOUCHING him. UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #32
Flores didn't look unfamiliar or uncomforable with Joe Biden.. Cha Apr 2019 #26
Enough with your Biden bashing...every fucking opportunity you get. ENOUGH. nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #41
They didn't. sheshe2 Apr 2019 #14
Yes it does. unless one chooses to believe it. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #36
Flores tried to Smear Hillary in 2017.. Cha Apr 2019 #15
Zombie Smears crazytown Apr 2019 #24
Yes, "Zombie Smears".. Cha Apr 2019 #25
'Establishment' - 'Dedicated' crazytown Apr 2019 #28
Beautiful Truth.. Cha Apr 2019 #29
To set the record straight; inappropriate according to you. democratisphere Apr 2019 #30
If I were a candidate I would would keep her as far away as possible from me katmondoo Apr 2019 #33
Agreed! peggysue2 Apr 2019 #42
 

sheshe2

(83,760 posts)
1. Actually she is.
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 11:54 PM
Mar 2019

Click on 'Read the Statement of Our Revolution's Board of Directors'

https://ourrevolution.com/press/statement-our-revolution-board-directors/

Full board list below:

Nina Turner – Former Ohio State Senator

Deborah Parker – Native American Leader

Ben Jealous – Civil Rights Leader

Jim Hightower – Political Leader, National Radio Commentator & Writer

Jim Zogby – Arab American Human Rights Leader

Huck Gutman – Former Chief of Staff for Senator Bernie Sanders

Jane Kleeb – Environmental and Rural Leader

Lucy Flores – Former Nevada Assemblywoman

Larry Cohen – Labor

Catalina Velasquez – Immigration, Reproductive Justice and Trans Queer Liberation Leader

Shailene Woodley – Actress and Environmental Leader

PAID FOR BY OUR REVOLUTION

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pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
2. That is a non-updated page. She publicly left the org and that is reflected on their Mission page.
Sun Mar 31, 2019, 11:55 PM
Mar 2019

Scroll down to see the current Board, in the blue box on the right. She's not listed.

https://ourrevolution.com/about/



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Revolution

Additionally, Lucy Flores resigned from the board in April 2018 due to what she claims was the organization's lack of outreach to the Latino community.

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TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
3. They should really update that page.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 12:00 AM
Apr 2019

Especially since there's a link to it right next to the current list of board members.

I know it's a static page, but they should add an addendum or something to avoid confusion. I suspect they may do so shortly.

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sheshe2

(83,760 posts)
5. Interesting that it has been a year.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 12:05 AM
Apr 2019

4/2018 since it was said she resigned yet still listed.

Our Revolution. Hmmm.

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sheshe2

(83,760 posts)
4. Perhaps they should update their links and page.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 12:03 AM
Apr 2019

According to them she is still there.

Very misleading. Hmm.

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pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
6. They're a pretty disorganized bunch, from what I've heard. n/t
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 12:15 AM
Apr 2019
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sheshe2

(83,760 posts)
8. No kidding.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 12:20 AM
Apr 2019

Frankly I do not believe a word they say.

Cenk Uygur/ TYT/ Our Revolution/ Justice Democrats.

No thank you.

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True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
22. Thanks Cha
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 04:46 AM
Apr 2019

The truth is now coming out. This may be a good thing.

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trueblue2007

(17,218 posts)
39. LUCY FLORES said horrible things about Hillary. I can't stand her and don't believe a word she says
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 03:07 PM
Apr 2019

Trashing Dems in my book is rotten. She went after Hillary and how she is trying to hurt Joe Biden.
Shame shame shame on you Lucy.

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. That she belonged to this disreputable radical group at all,
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 07:04 AM
Apr 2019

though, casts doubt on her judgement and credibility. Those prone to extremist behaviors are always dishonest within the sphere of their zealotry, and usually profoundly so, because both their beliefs and the ruthless behaviors that go with zealotry require it. Their ends always justify their means, necessary because everyone not with them is bad and must be stopped. So what was she doing with them?

And Ms. Flores left this group not because of the typical destructive behaviors of these groups, belying their claims of being committed to progressive government by weakening, and even sometimes opposing, election of Democrats, but because they neglect Hispanic issues. (Of course.) But that's only one of many wrongs she should have cared about, and a person of good judgement and character would not have run with those dogs in the first place, or dissociated for better cause when they realized what they were.

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
37. :) Thing is, Lucy Flores is and was a professional politician
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 09:59 AM
Apr 2019

who doesn't have the excuse of the many decent people who joined OR out of idealistic enthusiasm without realizing what they were joining or just how dysfunctional OR's leadership was.

Flores was a Democratic assemblywoman. She has to know that in the real world if your goal is universal healthcare, civil rights, feeding and housing the poor, or affordable/free college and technical school, you elect liberal Democrats, as many as possible until majorities are achieved. It is that simple.

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Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
38. I agree. I was admiring your post. One of the best written posts I have
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 03:04 PM
Apr 2019

Ever seen.

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trueblue2007

(17,218 posts)
40. Is she credible ..... interesting tweet and photo
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 03:16 PM
Apr 2019

NormanTheDoxie
‏ @NormanTheDoxie
Mar 31

Seems comfortable for #LucyFlores to grab @BillClinton by the neck. @JoeBiden has no reason to apologize to this reported former gang member who spent time in juvenile detention for stealing a car.

:large
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Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
34. She is still a surrogate and her story reeks.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 09:35 AM
Apr 2019
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highplainsdem

(48,977 posts)
7. So she's an Our Revolution alum, like Nomiki Konst, who was also on CNN lying about Biden
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 12:18 AM
Apr 2019

today, and repeating the long-debunked smear about Biden and Stephanie Carter, a smear that Flores resurrected to use against Biden.

Here's my reply about that in the thread about Carter's statement today:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=45737

As I said there, I'm disgusted by the smears and lies.

And what they're saying is so ridiculous, with Flores having said Biden was nuzzling Carter's neck, and Konst claiming idiotically that he was "sniffing her hair," when he was doing nothing of the sort.

Shameful.

And Konst looked so happy to be peddling this crap.

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Cha

(297,220 posts)
17. I bet Konst was happy to be
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 02:34 AM
Apr 2019

peddling hogwash.. I've seen some of her gaslighting tweets.

Here she is telling Hillary to "tread carefully".. Like Hillary needs any advice from nomiki konst.




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John Fante

(3,479 posts)
10. Her attempts to create
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 12:55 AM
Apr 2019

pile-on on Biden are fucking nauseating.

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Cha

(297,220 posts)
18. She's too obvious.. she should
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 02:35 AM
Apr 2019

have taken it down about 20 notches.

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ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
11. Makes no difference whatsoevery.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 12:56 AM
Apr 2019

The pics that exist contradict her tale.

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pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
12. No they don't. No one's released any pictures of her standing in the dark, just offstage,
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 01:00 AM
Apr 2019

waiting to give her speech.

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ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
13. Exactly.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 01:03 AM
Apr 2019

But there are pics showing a) Bernie with his hand on Lucy's shoulder and b) Lucy with her hand on Biden's shoulder.

Both of which contradict her tale. Which really shouldn't be given credence here.

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pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
16. How do either of those pictures contradict her story?
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 02:18 AM
Apr 2019

Her photo with Bernie is totally irrelevant. And posing for a selfie with Biden means nothing either. She had asked him to come there to endorse her -- she wanted pictures of the two of them together.

Neither of those photos disprove her claim that, while she was waiting to step onstage, Biden suddenly came up behind her, gripped her shoulders, sniffed her hair and planted a big slow kiss on her head.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
19. She said she was completely unfamiliar with him and that he violated her personal space and
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 02:39 AM
Apr 2019

that you don't touch someone you don't know. Yet she did the same thing to him. Get it now?

There is also pictures of him "sniffing" Eva Longoria's hair at that event too, PS he was TALKING to her - but people who want to smear.....i.e. right wingers and ahem some others like to take these snapshots in time out of context.

Win at all costs eh?

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True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
23. Joe isn't hugging Flores there! Is that why she is unhappy?
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 04:49 AM
Apr 2019
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Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
31. Look at the "side boob" photo again...
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 07:48 AM
Apr 2019

Check where the material on the top stretches it’s above where Joe’s hand is located.

Yeah not ideal placement, but I would argue against “side boob” contact there.

The only person who could really confirm it would be the person who was touched, not me, not you.

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UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
32. Missed my point. But as you can see Flores is standing SO CLOSE HER BOOB IS TOUCHING him.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 08:19 AM
Apr 2019

Enough of your right wing talking points.

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Cha

(297,220 posts)
26. Flores didn't look unfamiliar or uncomforable with Joe Biden..
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 06:55 AM
Apr 2019



Vice President Joe Biden takes a selfie with Nevada Lt. Governor Democratic candidate Lucy Flores during a rally in support of Nevada Democrats at the Plumbers and Pipefitters Joint UA Local 525 in Las Vegas Saturday, Nov. 1, 2014. (AP Photo/Las Vegas Sun, L.E. Baskow) (Photo: L.E. Baskow, AP)
If I were to vote in a presidential
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UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
41. Enough with your Biden bashing...every fucking opportunity you get. ENOUGH. nt
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 06:09 PM
Apr 2019
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sheshe2

(83,760 posts)
14. They didn't.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 02:14 AM
Apr 2019

2014 and no pictures of her standing in the dark, just off stage.

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Demsrule86

(68,576 posts)
36. Yes it does. unless one chooses to believe it.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 09:40 AM
Apr 2019
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Cha

(297,220 posts)
15. Flores tried to Smear Hillary in 2017..
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 02:15 AM
Apr 2019
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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
24. Zombie Smears
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 06:40 AM
Apr 2019

Even after the smears have been utterly debunked they get trotted out to defame ‘establishment democrats’ (read Democrats) at opportune times calculated to do the most damage to the party candidates. No doubt ‘Our Revolution’ have would have organised behind Bernie Sanders call to primary President Obama in 2012, and to hell with the Democratic Party.

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Undecided
 

Cha

(297,220 posts)
25. Yes, "Zombie Smears"..
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 06:50 AM
Apr 2019

good way to describe them.

Some of them seemed so surprised when the BLUEWAVE happened with all kinds of Dems turning red seats to BLUEWAVE seats.

That's why we have the House Victory now and a chance to hold the fascists from taking over everything. No thanks to the pettiness of those hurling "estalblishment" accusations.. like it's a dirty word. The BlueWave Revolution was in spite of them.

The secret to the blue wave that won the House for Democrats

Editor's Note: Congressman Ben Ray Luján, a Democrat, is from New Mexico. He was appointed to the House Democratic Leadership as a Chief Deputy Whip in 2013, served as chair of the the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee in the 2016 cycle and was elected by his colleagues to serve again as DCCC chair in the 2018 midterms. He is running unopposed for the position of assistant Democratic leader in the upcoming Congress. The opinions expressed in this commentary are his own; view more opinion at CNN.

As Chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, I spent a significant amount of time this cycle traveling throughout the country making a personal case to supporters about our candidates. I know firsthand how Democrats achieved our historic victory, and what it will take to build on this success heading into 2020.

Throughout my time on the road, there was one constant: Nancy Pelosi. She was strong, passionate and persuasive. She always showed up, always took the time, always made the case better than anyone else about how consequential these midterms were.

She did all this while balancing an ideologically diverse Democratic caucus and the dangers posed by an erratic, impulsive President who constantly sought to distract from the personal conversation that Democrats were having with voters. But with laser focus and a "Just Win, Baby" mentality, Nancy Pelosi's achievements this year are historic

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/27/opinions/blue-wave-secret-house-democrats-lujn/index.html

Thank You, crazytown!
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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
28. 'Establishment' - 'Dedicated'
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 07:12 AM
Apr 2019
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Undecided
 

Cha

(297,220 posts)
29. Beautiful Truth..
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 07:24 AM
Apr 2019

Too many didn't want reality.. they wanted lies and fantasy fed to them by faux, fb, the USmedia, and those 3rd party Liars like David Sirota, susan sarand0n, jill stein, BG.. Russia and their Bots.


Mahalo, crazytown

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democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
30. To set the record straight; inappropriate according to you.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 07:27 AM
Apr 2019

Flores continues to embellish and juice up her story with each new interview. This person is not credible.

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katmondoo

(6,457 posts)
33. If I were a candidate I would would keep her as far away as possible from me
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 09:24 AM
Apr 2019

I would also stay far away from her, not knowing what she would say about me. She will not be working in any campaign this time around. Who would take the chance.

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peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
42. Agreed!
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 06:37 PM
Apr 2019

She's proven herself to be a toxic element. And this is what happens when you weaponize a gender-related movement. The MeToo movement has an important message, giving voice to women who have been silenced in the past. These sort of ridiculous smears coat tailing that message simply undermine the importance of the original impetus. Which was genuine, long overdue

Sabotage is not a pretty thing to watch. In fact, it's disgusting.

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