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Our Dem Prez candidates and issues of war and peace... (Original Post) RobertDevereaux Apr 2019 OP
Bernie's begins thus... RobertDevereaux Apr 2019 #1
Interesting that it overlooks Sanders two votes in favor of regime change in Iraq. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #2
and he is a big supporter of the F 35 big bucks project based in...ta da...vermont nt msongs Apr 2019 #3
It covered that pretty well. WeekiWater Apr 2019 #4
The F35 is not made in VT karynnj Apr 2019 #7
Elizabeth Warren's begins thus... RobertDevereaux Apr 2019 #5
Curious to know your thoughts about how this article treats... RobertDevereaux Apr 2019 #6
 

RobertDevereaux

(1,857 posts)
1. Bernie's begins thus...
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 01:23 PM
Apr 2019

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“Senator Sanders has the best voting record of any candidate on war and peace issues, especially on military spending. Opposing the oversized Pentagon budget, he has only voted for three out of 19 military spending bills since 2013. By this measure, no other candidate comes close, including Rep. Tulsi Gabbard. In other votes on war and peace, Sanders voted as requested by Peace Action 84 percent of the time from 2011 to 2016, despite some hawkish votes on Iran from 2011-2013.

“One major contradiction in Sanders’s opposition to out-of-control military spending has been his support for the world’s most expensive and wasteful weapon system: the trillion-dollar F-35 fighter jet. Not only did Sanders support the F-35, he pushed — despite local opposition — to get these fighter jets stationed at the Burlington airport for the Vermont National Guard.

“In terms of stopping the war in Yemen, Sanders has been a hero....”
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WeekiWater

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2. Interesting that it overlooks Sanders two votes in favor of regime change in Iraq.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 01:25 PM
Apr 2019

And his vote for the AUMF. It actually doesn't cover over 2/3 of his career as a politician.

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msongs

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3. and he is a big supporter of the F 35 big bucks project based in...ta da...vermont nt
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 01:49 PM
Apr 2019
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Joe Biden
 

WeekiWater

(3,259 posts)
4. It covered that pretty well.
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 01:56 PM
Apr 2019

Even stating "which Sanders will you get?"

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karynnj

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7. The F35 is not made in VT
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 04:32 PM
Apr 2019

The issue in VT is that there is an air national guard base at the airport in South Burlington. The planes that are based there are F16s. What Bernie, Leahy, and Welch supported is that they become a base for the F35s. The reason is that the F16s will be phased out and they would like to maintain the national guard base. The reason is that it provides job to the local community.

It is extremely controversial here. Burlington voters approved a NON BINDING resolution against the F35s. They were supposed to come this spring.

This is really not a decision on war and peace.

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RobertDevereaux

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5. Elizabeth Warren's begins thus...
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 04:04 PM
Apr 2019

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“Sen. Elizabeth Warren made her reputation with her bold challenges of our nation’s economic inequality and corporate greed, and has slowly started to stake out her foreign policy positions. Her campaign website says that she supports “cutting our bloated defense budget and ending the stranglehold of defense contractors on our military policy.” But, like Gabbard, she has voted to approve over two-thirds of the “bloated” military spending bills that have come before her in the Senate.

“Her website also says, “It’s time to bring the troops home,” and that she supports “reinvesting in diplomacy.” She has come out in favor of the U.S. rejoining the Iran nuclear agreement and has also proposed legislation that would prevent the United States from using nuclear weapons as a first-strike option, saying she wants to “reduce the chances of a nuclear miscalculation.”

“Her Peace Action voting record exactly matches Sanders’s for the shorter time she has sat in the Senate, and she was one of the first five Senators to cosponsor his Yemen War Powers bill in March 2018. Senator Warren took in $34,729 in “defense” industry contributions for her 2018 Senate re-election campaign.”
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RobertDevereaux

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6. Curious to know your thoughts about how this article treats...
Mon Apr 1, 2019, 04:05 PM
Apr 2019

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...your favorite candidate.

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