I voted for Bernie in the primaries last year, and for Hillary

[rateyes]

in the general election. To date, I am undecided as to whom to support in the primaries this year. But, I will say that after this Flores/Biden kerfuffle and listening to what she said, and what he said, Flores has convinced me NOT to support Bernie again. In the hopes of beating the asshole currently occupying the White House, I think it would be best for Bernie to either drop out, or get knocked out in the first round of primaries.

[katmondoo]

1. Well it won't be Bernie

[awesomerwb1]

2. Just hope the Bernie "fans"

don't do a "protest" vote because they didn't get what they wanted and hurt our chances of beating dump.

Wouldn't be surprised if Bernie lost the primary and decided to go third party into the general election.

Bernie and his supporters are desperate because this is their last hurrah. There is no 2024, option, this is it.

[Amimnoch]

3. he's our toxic candidate imo.

The whole party, and the whole nation would have been better off if he'd sat it out.. both times.

ANYBODY but BS in 2020.

[comradebillyboy]

15. Amen brother or sister.

[iluvtennis]

21. Let the church say Amen x 2!

[justie18]

17. Exactly!

My sentiments are exactly the same.

[Squinch]

26. This is true!

[get the red out]

4. I am right there with you on all of that

And agree about Bernie.

[Kentonio]

5. How exactly does a former Bernie supporter complaining about Biden mean you won't support Bernie?

This is very confusing.

[rateyes]

7. I'm not complaining about Biden. I am complaining

about Flores, and what I see as an attempt of the Bernie camp to smear a good man.

[Kentonio]

9. I was talking about Flores not you complaining about Biden.

Sorry for not being clear.

[pdsimdars]

16. I think it's just more piling on Bernie just like they did last time. Same action, different excuse

[George II]

18. It's known as "deductive reasoning" or, more simply, connecting the dots.

We don't even know yet if she's a "former" Bernie supporter, although based on the uproar of her accusation, the Sanders campaign would be wise to distance themselves from her.

[KPN]

23. That's called selective dot connecting. But

don’t fret. We all do it.

[George II]

33. Okay, if it's "selective dot connecting", what dots did I leave out?

[workinclasszero]

65. Weird huh?

[woodsprite]

6. I'm in the same boat with you, Rateyes!

I supported Hillary (before Bernie declared), then Bernie in the primaries, wholeheartedly supported Hillary in the election. This go round, I am leary of who is being hired in his campaign, now this. I had already decided if Biden was running, that's who I was for in the primaries. I think Biden, with an excellent choice of a running mate, is the winning ticket for us. I will vote for whoever wins the Dem nomination in the General, but I'm not throwing my support behind Bernie this go round. It's a shame because I really did like most of his platform in 2016. This other stuff is just getting in the way this time.

Another person I'm NOT for -- Gabbard. She has no business running as a right win "Dem".

[rateyes]

8. I'm with you. Not a Gabbard fan.

[Blue_true]

48. Gabbard's voting record in Congress is considered mostly progressive.

But she is conservative on foreign policy and lukewarm on LGBTQ rights, those are disqualifying, IMO.

[Trenzalore]

10. The band is just tuning up

I fully expect the worst to come out of the Bernie campaign with Sirota being on staff.

[George II]

34. He got a pretty good head start, Friday was only his 10th day on the job.

[W_HAMILTON]

11. I'm surprised it took you that long to come to this realization.

I voted for Sanders in the 2016 primary as well and there is absolute zero chance in hell that I will be voting for him in the 2020 primary; in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if my primary vote was more calculating and went to candidates that were sure to beat Sanders in the primary (e.g., I don't think Biden is my #1 choice, but if it looks like it's gonna come down to him or Sanders, I am voting for Biden all the way).

[rateyes]

12. Right now, while undecided, I lean toward

Senator Harris. But, I like Biden, and know he would kick Trump’s ass.

[SCantiGOP]

13. I agree with you 100%

Biden/Harris is looking like a winning ticket.

[Blue_true]

49. I am playing it just like you are.

For me, it is anyone but Sanders. I just don't like his go it alone divisiveness in light of the monumental risks this country and the world faces. I want Sanders to be soundly beaten early on in the primary and anyone that can do that will be the candidate that I vote for when my time to vote in a primary comes.

[world wide wally]

14. Bernie has lost me for good now.

He won't win the primary, so I won't have to worry about the general

[billpolonsky]

19. So much for not infighting

Just saying....

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

37. Seriously!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Join the revolution!!!

[Cha]

56. Umm.. we're allowed to express our

opinions on a political discussion board without being accused of "infighting".

[Doitnow]

20. My, My, Methinks y'all are pretty worried Bernie may win the nomination--so much negativity. Wait

till you see his donation numbers this quarter. I expect all hell will let loose.

[BlueFlorida]

29. No one is worried that Bernie will win the nomination

That ain't gonna happen.

What everyone is worried about is that Bernie's campaign is divisive and will end up severely damaging the eventual nominee of the party.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

38. People are obviously worried... splains all the Bernie bashing going on.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Join the revolution!!!

[BlueFlorida]

39. ...

[sheshe2]

52. Nope.

[stonecutter357]

36. worried Bernie may win the nomination.

[Power 2 the People]

42. +1000

[MurrayDelph]

22. I like Biden, but

I feel his window of opportunity has closed.

Same for Bernie.

[LakeArenal]

24. Bernie had a great message in 2016.

Now we have better candidates to take it forward.

Besides, Bernie, taxes man. Show those taxes.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

40. Wait, I thought Bernie and his policy agenda represented the PAST... which is it?! I'm confused!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Join the revolution!!!

[LakeArenal]

45. What are you talking about? Are you throwing a bomb at me? When did I say anything like that...?

Get off it.. I supported Bernie in 2016.. Over time I found that I liked his message but not so much him.

If you don't like it... Sew buttons...

Now, Bernie Show your taxes....

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

46. Not at all... but, many have said EXACTLY that!! "Sew buttons"? Seems a little extreme, but, okay.

Sorry you took what I said the wrong way.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Join the revolution!!!

[Gothmog]

25. I agree with your analysis

[walkingman]

27. I voted for Bernie in the Primary and Hillary also. I'm voting on a younger person this time but

give credit to Bernie for bringing up a lot of issues that probably wouldn't be addressed this time. The GOP smear machine is in full attack mode and I hope Dems will not fall for this divide strategy.

[BlueFlorida]

28. My thoughts exactly nt

[Mike Nelson]

30. There was a time...

… remember the Simon & Garfunkel ad... the bird landing as he spoke... it seemed magical... But I was over it before the end. I think Hillary was the best candidate and got the most votes... the Republicans would destroy Bernie. I was favoring Harris... but lately Pete... there are some great candidates. I remember people saying the Democratic "bench" was looking tried and tired... I said, just wait, there are many!

[blm]

31. Same route I took last year, but, I don't blame Sanders for the crazy shlt some of his

supporters are doing. I do think he has little to no control over their antics. I think he doesn’t want to offend them. I won’t judge Sanders personally for their bad behavior, but, do wish these organizations around his candidacy would show greater discretion and some self-restraint from the top down.

I think it is with the leaders of these satellite organizations that Sanders could and should step in and set up guidelines if their members are going to pull stunts that track back to his campaign. They are NOT doing him favors as they may think.

[BlueFlorida]

41. Harry Truman was a real leader.

He said "The buck stops here."

Sanders cannot and should not hide behind what his supporters are doing.

Sanders should not have hired Jill Stein voters to his top campaign posts.

Sanders is complicit and should take responsibility and shut his supporters down from playing dirty.

[blm]

43. I get that. I just said I don't blame him personally, and go on to

say that he needs to give guidelines to all the leaders of the satellite organizations around his campaign.

He seems too afraid to offend them.

[BlueFlorida]

47. Real leaders are not afraid to offend the supporters

who are behaving badly. It is HIS name they are tarnishing.

[Blue_true]

50. A true leader is not afraid of offending supporters when those

supporters are wrong. Bernie sticks his head into a shell and does not confront his rabid supporters.

[blm]

51. I agree. That is the problem that I have had with him.

I don’t blame him personally for what the crazies do, but, I do think he needs to call his people to order and lay down some guidelines.

It’s more like they are running the show and he fears offending him.

[rickford66]

32. You should have voted for Bernie in the 2016 primary

[Cha]

57. yeah, I bet he meant to say last "time".

[rateyes]

59. Oops. Old age is catching up to me.

[aikoaiko]

35. What is Bernie's connection to Flores' decision to speak out?

Did I miss something?

[Power 2 the People]

44. I voted for Bernie in the primaries last year, and for Hillary

And I can't wait to vote for Bernie after he secures the Democratic nomination. He's all about policy,policy,policy. None of these distractions will sway me.

[Tarheel_Dem]

53. Agree 1000%. nt

[honest.abe]

54. We would all be better off if Bernie sat out 2020.

I hope he realizes it before its too late.

[Doitnow]

55. What would anyone be talking about if Bernie had sat out in 2016? When I listen to most of the other

candidates I hear Bernie talking. He.s the person that has gotten everyone else motivated.

[JudyM]

58. Very true. I noticed that Clinton started using his talking points as 2016 went on, as well.

Warren has stood for his main principles for many years, as well, but Sanders was the one that got the country - and other politicians — talking about the possibilities of transforming our country with these more democratic policies.

[Doitnow]

61. Ditto! I thought Bernie was always braver than Hillary. Seems like Bernie gave

the new group of candidates permission to demand more democratic positions than centrist Dems, more spine. The times demand so many piled up issues be addressed. No more delaying.

[JudyM]

62. Mainstream Dem pols were stunned by the broad popularity of his outside-the-mainstream proposals.

and by the sensible logic behind how to pay for/achieve them.

The revolution he threw open the door to is embodied in the voting public’s green light to keep these issues on the table. Bernie continues to outpoll the others among younger voters. It’s interesting, isn’t it, that riding the trend toward these more people’s rights-oriented values allows our party to draw in so many independents to vote with us? The pull in the other direction is toward the great sucking sound of money, not people.

[honest.abe]

60. Oh my... if Bernie had sat out 2016 we likely would have Hillary Clinton as POTUS.

Yeah, Trump winning guaranteed Bernie remained a hot topic... unfortunately.

[TheFarseer]

67. How did Trump

Win a contested primary, then fend off very serious calls for him to step aside during the GENERAL and still manage to win the presidency? Are you sure the primary was the problem?

[joshcryer]

63. He'll support the nominee.

Unlike 2016 where he waited 2 months to do so.

[Cha]

64. Never thought I'd

see you say that, rateyes!

[workinclasszero]

66. I supported Hillary in the primaries and voted for her in the general election

Now I'm supporting Bernie and he's doing great so far.

[Gothmog]

68. I like this statement by Joe Biden

Link to tweet