Bernie should thank Amy

[Legends303]

for splitting the vote with Buttigieg, only reason how he won.

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

1. That might be true.

Amy is my second favorite after Pete.

[MineralMan]

2. How about a Buttigieg/Klobuchar ticket?

They already have almost 50% and are pretty much on the same page politically, right? Interesting, isn't it?

[still_one]

3. Klobuchar/Buttigieg. She has much more experience

[apcalc]

4. +1

[MineralMan]

5. Oh, OK. I don't care.

The point was the vote totals, really. That's going to be a problem for Sanders going forward. There are some strong candidates who all seem to take moderate positions and pretty much support the same ideas and policies. In fact, all of them seem to have read and are following the Democratic Party platform right down the line.

I think it's an interesting exercise to add up the poll and election results by political position when I'm thinking about where these primaries are going in the future. We have Buttigieg, Klobuchar, Biden, and now Bloomberg, all solidly in the middle politically in terms of Democratic positions. Add them all up. Then compare the totals for, say Sanders and Warren, and see how it all stacks up.

I like looking at numbers, early in a primary season. Who stands where and how are their total numbers?

[still_one]

7. I hear ya

[joost5]

8. Yes, but...

We won't destroy drumpf decisively if the African American community isn't energized. And so far Amy (my #1) and Pete have little support from black voters. Stacy Abrams as veep?

[still_one]

10. Good points, but way too early for that speculation. After the Nevada and SC primary that will

give a good indicator, and Super Tuesday, should decisively tell it

[MineralMan]

11. It's still early days in the primary season.

Right now, we're just playing with numbers. Those numbers will change as we move into states that better reflect the country's population. Iowa and New Hampshire don't do that very well at all.

So, keep your eyes open. On March 4, we'll have a nice big pile of numbers to look through and talk about. So far, we have one scrambled up caucus state and one state with more non-declared voters than any other party. And both states are about as white as they can be. Only Vermont is whiter, and it doesn't really matter at the convention.

[JaneQPublic]

15. In either order, that would be the world's longest bumper sticker.

For that ticket, first names would definitely be the way to go.

[MineralMan]

17. Yeah, that would be hard to read on the back of a car.

Pete and Amy!

Or

Amy and Pete!

Those would fit better, for sure.

[bluewater]

6. Amy should thank the non-Democratic "undelclared" voters in the semi-open NH primary too.

They went heavily for her.

[Kaleva]

9. As did college educated women.

"Nick Corasaniti, with Klobuchar in Concord, N.H. 5m ago

Loudest cheers of the night erupted here in Concord as a CNN graphic showed Klobuchar well ahead with white college-educated women."


"Katie Glueck, reporting from Manchester, N.H. 6m ago

Per exit polls, Amy Klobuchar is dominating with white college-educated women, a demographic with which Elizabeth Warren had previously been strong."

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/02/11/us/elections/results-new-hampshire-primary-election.html?region=RaceTitle&action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

[bluewater]

12. How many of those "undeclared" college educated woman lean Republican do you think?

I mean, they made a choice not to register as Democrats.... 50%? 40%? 30%?

[jmg257]

14. Likely not too many...not any more...

Horn identified right-leaning independents and suburban women as weak points for Trump. She pointed to data from the New Hampshire Secretary of State’s office that shows 20,284 people have left the Republican Party since Trump won the presidency, which is roughly 7,000 more than the 13,556 voters Democrats lost.

“The president has not just disenfranchised good Republicans who feel passionately about principle and integrity and character, he has conducted himself in office in such a corrupt manner, people who left the party in 2016 have been given no reason to return to the Republican Party,” she said.

There are now 3,807‬ more undeclared voters than there were on Nov. 8, 2016. The rise in undeclared, or independent voters, “should be concerning” to Republicans, said DeMers, because they are losing registrations at a much quicker pace than Democrats.

On Election Day in 2016, the GOP had 20,000 more registered voters than Democrats. At last count, on Dec. 31, 2019, the gap was 13,272‬.

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article239923138.html


Seems just who we want to go after to get their votes.

Get 'em, Amy!

[Kaleva]

16. We do know that college educated white women tend to vote Dem

"White college-educated women, a more specific subgroup, have moved even more Democratic in every key battleground state polled (including Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Missouri, Nevada, and Texas) and nationally since 2014. In 2014, white college-educated women voted for the Republican candidate by four percentage points more than the Democratic candidate, and in 2016, they supported both candidates equally. But in 2018, 59% of white college-educated women voted for a Democratic candidate in the House, 20-points more than voted for the Republican."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/11/politics/women-exit-poll-vote/index.html

You are asking a question that cannot be answered and I think you already know that.

[squirecam]

13. What are you implying?

Nt

[MineralMan]

18. I'm guessing that bluewater has no idea.

Still, maybe you'll get an answer...

[customerserviceguy]

19. Amy should thank

all of the others for not attacking her in the debates, and should be especially grateful for the fact that Warren was very supportive of her at that time.