Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumThis is how easy it is to manufacture a narrative about mean people on the internet.
Go to twitter. Pick some hashtag that's derogatory to a candidate. And search it. I tried #FuckBernie. And what did I find?
The very first hit was talking about "Bernie cultists." Scroll down a bit and there's a person whose twitter name is "Bernie Gonna Die or Lose. Either way we win." Oh, and there's also someone named "#BernieWantsPeopleToDie."
Ohhhhh myyyyy gooood!!! These people are so meeeeeeaaan!!! Why doesn't some other candidate take responsibility for all those horrible things! Where's the civility! Obviously this hatefulness comes from the top!
Seriously, give me a break. What I found in 30 seconds is one one thousandth of a percent of the hateful shit that gets posted on twitter every day against Bernie, or any other candidate. It's embarrassing that there are actual news stories where "journalists" do what I just did and try to weave it into a narrative smearing the online supporters of one candidate as uniquely uncivil.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
W_HAMILTON
(7,871 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Nt
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CalFione
(571 posts)It is the people who actually WORK for the campaign - the David Sirotas and Nina Turners and so forth - that are the problem.
These aren't random people on twitter hiding behind a fake username and a "rose" emoji. These are Bernie's employees.
David Sirota is one of the biggest social media trolls in the world. And his behavior is a reflection of the candidate he represents.
You keep trying to make this about random people that may or may not be trolls or bots.
It is about his SURROGATES.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)That Bloomberg ad was a bunch of tweets by supposed Bernie supporters. Not by anyone associated with the campaign. As are the media stories about it.
The surrogates dont post offensive things. They might post things you disagree with, but not the kind of offensive or bigoted posts that anonymous so-called Bernie Bros do.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CalFione
(571 posts)And Nina has certainly been very offensive at times.
Though I wouldn't call either one bigoted. At least they haven't done THAT yet.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)And other people think that say Neera Tanden is trolling. Thats just politics though. But the Bernie Bro smear isnt about Sirota, its about supporters, not surrogates. Really. Look it up.
Speaking of Sirota, this is apropos.
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....the day he was hired at the beginning of last year he deleted more than 20,000 tweets. Apparently he was ashamed of them or was afraid they'd come back to haunt him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)You do him credit.
It's too bad you're put in a position (and feel compelled) to the point where you need to defend others out there that consistently fail to accomplish what you do.
For reals ... cheers man.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Quixote1818
(28,967 posts)arrows and battles going on all over the place and they are all fringe foks from every campaign. Who cares? Before the net they were there we just didn't see them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,476 posts)Like this, for example: https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=537769
Deflection and flat-out lies.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DanTex
(20,709 posts)as "Bernie Bros". His campaign staff aren't the ones (allegedly) doxxing people and sending hate mail. The "Bernie Bro" narrative is about supporters, not staff. And the double standard is that nobody tries to hold other candidates accountable for what their alleged supporters do online.
You might consider that link "deflection and flat-out lies," and I can disagree with you. But nothing said there is offensive or harassing. At worst, it's spin, and all campaigns spin.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided