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40RatRod

(532 posts)
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 05:51 PM Feb 2020

I question whether Bernie can beat Trump

More and more, I question whether Bernie can beat Trump even though I will vote for him if he is our nominee. I see the GOP tarring and feathering Bernie as a radical socialist and will likely get traction with both republicans and independents. In my opinion, some of his promises will be impossible to deliver. Republicans are eager for Sanders to be the nominee and are already attacking down ballot democrats as "Bernie socialists." Should Trump win, regardless of our nominee, we must ALL have voted to fill the House and Senate with democrats so Trump can be impeached again and removed from office as soon as possible.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Perseus

(4,341 posts)
1. I guess you either forgot or didn't know that Obama was also labeled as a socialist?
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 05:58 PM
Feb 2020

Any of the Democrats will be labeled as socialists, I wish Democrats would not do it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. I never questioned whether to support Obama. He was a dream candidate from the
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 06:01 PM
Feb 2020

moment he spoke at 2004 convention.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

doc03

(35,367 posts)
5. Bernie actually says he is a socialist big difference nt
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 06:09 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Moderateguy

(945 posts)
2. There's a reason he seems to be their preferred Candidate
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 06:01 PM
Feb 2020

And it’s not because they’re afraid he’d beat Trump.

First the SC GOP encouraging people to vote for Bernie and now Russia supporting his campaign

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

nobuddy

(215 posts)
4. Biden will be a repeat of 2016
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 06:04 PM
Feb 2020

Trump has weaponized the DOJ and planning to run on lock up Hunter. His goons already have Hunter bumper stickers on their trucks next to their Hillary 4 Prison stickers. The media will cover the non-story because trump will bring it up 20 times a day.

The only way he can win is bringing the favorables of our nominee down to his levels. He is going to do that to whoever it is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

pamdb

(1,332 posts)
6. Bernie
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 06:09 PM
Feb 2020


I don't question it at all. If Sanders is the nominee we will lose. "Socialist" is the nicest term The Impeached Occupant will use. Try communist. And don't count on the youth vote. The
"youth" don;'t have a good record on voting. Mid terms, term papers, classes...and that's just the ones in college. Us old fatrs (68) are the ones who vote. I want Biden, hell, even Warren.I will vote for Bernie if he gets the nomination but he won't win. I'd bet a Social Security check on it.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,558 posts)
7. If sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45+ states and Kevin McCarthy will be Speaker of the House
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 06:10 PM
Feb 2020

sanders would turn out trump's base




If I were to vote in a presidential
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dalton99a

(81,578 posts)
10. With lasting damage to the Democratic Party and to our democracy.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:11 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,558 posts)
11. I fear what another 4 years of trump would do to our country
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:12 PM
Feb 2020

Beating trump has to be our number one priority.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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dalton99a

(81,578 posts)
12. Absolutely.
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:13 PM
Feb 2020

The traitor and his gang must be removed

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Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
8. I keep going back to the Andrew Gillum example of 2018
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 06:26 PM
Feb 2020

We were fed the same nonsense here in Florida, that enthusiasm and turnout were the key, that Gillum would inspire massive game changing turnout and we should all be thrilled that Florida primary voters had finally got rid of the tepid approach of nominating centrists like Alex Sink and Charlie Crist.

The Bernie Sanders crowd backed Gillum and were solely responsible for that primary upset over Gwen Graham.

It equated to throwing away a race that should not have been losable, given the national slant of 2018. Ron DeSantis was a slug. The socialism attacks on Gillum were so successful that 46% of Floridians in the exit poll said he was too liberal for the state. I posted a related thread immediately that night and warned that their are always tip offs in the midterm.

We are ignoring the tip offs.

Enthusiasm and youth vote would be wonderful if Trump were still at 37% approval, like late 2017. It would be like 2008 all over again...any Democrat with huge edge. Somehow we are content to ignore how much the landscape has shifted. If has shifted in favor of the incumbent. Nothing shifts in favor of a socialist in key swing states with considerably more self-identified conservatives than liberals.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
9. Yeah the guy
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 07:04 PM
Feb 2020

who supported Marxist candidates for President in the 80s will lose big

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Gothmog

(145,558 posts)
13. If the Russians want to re-elect Trump makes perfect sense they want Sanders
Sun Feb 23, 2020, 12:13 PM
Feb 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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