Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumMy biggest concern about Sanders as our nominee is that I have no idea who he might pick...
...as a running mate. And to be honest, it scares the bejesus out of me. Never will a running mate be more important than in this upcoming election, and I just don't think we can win with 2 democratic socialists on the ticket. I'll vote for whoever, but I'm not voting in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, or Ohio and a ticket with 2 socialists on it will go over like a fart in church there.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,454 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TheCowsCameHome
(40,169 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LaurenOlimina
(1,165 posts)Blech....
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SKKY
(11,826 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MisterFred
(525 posts)Seriously, I have NO idea how people think this is even a possibility.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)A look at his awful salaried surrogates not enough of a clue?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MisterFred
(525 posts)Sanders surrogates are far-left. She is conservative. No similarity.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MisterFred
(525 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
thesquanderer
(11,996 posts)...her domestic policies are very close to Sanders', for example. Remember, she quit her DNC position four years ago to support Sanders' presidential campaign. Her own positions, then and now, are consistent with that decision.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MisterFred
(525 posts)Back then I was thinking "that's weird. Gabbard must be doing this to make a name for herself as an outsider, because her policies seem a lot closer to Clinton than Sanders."
That said, I know Gabbard mostly for her atrocious views on foreign policy.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
VarryOn
(2,343 posts)Ive seen her mentioned a couple times on here. I dont get it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(109,008 posts)attacked Bernie liked she attacked several other then leading candidates.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,996 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
kcr
(15,320 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,996 posts)...shoring up on-the-fence ex-Trumpers, any gettable Republicans (where Fox has made Tulsi seem like the Dem they wish would run), and yes, even some portions of our own party. Her domestic positions are close to Sanders more often than not, and she stresses non-interventionism in foreign policy, which also has appeal both to the far left and the far right. She's also a charismatic campaigner.
My biggest issue with her is that, should something happen to Bernie, I'm not comfortable with her as president. But I do think she would help Bernie beat Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LaurenOlimina
(1,165 posts)I'm worried she's another Russian asset.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Rorey
(8,445 posts)And if that happens, I will have some thinking to do before I fill out my ballot.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)help him win that state's electoral votes. The ticket will carry Hawaii anyway.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Srkdqltr
(6,341 posts)He will win until he doesn't. With or without a running mate you like.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SKKY
(11,826 posts)...except Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MisterFred
(525 posts)I honestly have no idea & am just curious.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
PatSeg
(47,649 posts)Perhaps Stacy Abrams or Kamala Harris. Maybe Klobuchar.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MisterFred
(525 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
33taw
(2,448 posts)her Minnesota roots. I like the other two picks as well. I really like Abrams.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laelth
(32,017 posts)... that he intends to pick a woman, a PoC, or someone who is both.
Bernie has telegraphed nothing on this issue to my knowledge.
-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MisterFred
(525 posts)I do regard that as a bit of a broad set of criteria, as it encompasses most Democrats in the country.
I agree with you Sanders has telegraphed nothing. I wish it were otherwise.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
PatSeg
(47,649 posts)that he would probably pick a woman who was also a PoC. This would give him a really broad appeal and hopefully open the door for a woman president in the near future. If Joe hadn't been running, I probably would be supporting a woman candidate. I like both Warren and Klobuchar.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)Would continue with Sanders somewhat burn it down philosophy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cherryinpa
(301 posts)They've been sending signals for months.
Remember in one of the earlier debates when she did the full frontal attack on Kamala?
The purpose of that was to clear out the remaining left challenger to Bernie.
Tulsi as VP will be payback for that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MisterFred
(525 posts)No way in hell will Sanders pick Tulsi. There have been NO signals. Just people in a fever reading way too much into a random action from months ago.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
cherryinpa
(301 posts)It started with the attack on Kamala Harris in the second debate. She had proved by taking on Biden that she was the true left wing alternative to Bernie. But then Tulsi comes in with the dive bomber of an attack on her in the second debate that began he descent / exit. Now you can see that Tulsi is the only one of the candidates who is trying to get favor with the Bernie camp. Hillary has called it out already, you can go and look it up. And Tulsi is almost even more pro-Bernie than pro-Tulsi, isn't that a bit odd to you?
Almost 99% chance that Bernie will pick Tulsi as VP.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MisterFred
(525 posts)First you mention something Gabbard did for her own purposes.
Then you mention something Gabbard did for her own purposes.
Third, you mention something Gabbard is doing for her own purposes.
No one in the Sanders camp likes Gabbard. Her actual polices are WAAAY too conservative for us. We don't like her racism. Or Hindu nationalism. Sanders hasn't given any indication he wants anything to do with Gabbard. Gabbard would hurt his chances in any election.
There's no chance in hell Sanders selects Gabbard.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)Bernie and Tulsi are two peas.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MisterFred
(525 posts)She backed him in the DNC to make a name for herself, not because of any deal. He never promoted her. And she was always more conservative than him. Their policies never matched up.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MisterFred
(525 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MisterFred
(525 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
seaglass
(8,173 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nanjeanne
(5,003 posts)Stephanie Kelton, Michael Lightly, Yanis Varoufakis, Shaun King, Robert Pollin, Carmen Yulin Cruz, James Zogby, Simon Sinek, David McWilliams Niki Ashton, along with Nina Turner and Cornel West.
I don't think any of them are going to be Bernie's running mate.
But I'd love it if Dr. Stephanie Kelton, Robert Reich and Jeffrey Sachs were in his administration.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
seaglass
(8,173 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nanjeanne
(5,003 posts)Sanders Institute.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
seaglass
(8,173 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MisterFred
(525 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)Tulsi was a Bernie surrogate.
They spout the same nonsense about Russian interference. Bernie votes against Russian sanctions, Tulsi voted present on impeachment.
All the signs are there.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MisterFred
(525 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)They both love Russia.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MisterFred
(525 posts)Sanders does not like right-wing autocracies.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)Thats some cozy cognitive dissonance.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MisterFred
(525 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mopinko
(70,268 posts)if he picks someone in a mold of nina turner, we are screwn.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Ferryboat
(925 posts)His thinking was EW at the time. Not sure where I saw that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tom Rinaldo
(22,917 posts)They have worked well together in the Senate, and she was an early supporter of Medicare For All. She's young Black and female, all things that Bernie isn't. Plus she has the respect of more mainstream elements of the Democratic Party.
Bernie is running for President to become President. After all that he has gone through to get to this point he won't settle for just making a righteous political statement. He wants to win. Someone like Tulsi brings nothing to the ticket that Kamala doesn't have. Tulsi struggles to clear 1% in polls but Kamala brings what Bernie needs to actually become President.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SKKY
(11,826 posts)And I would breath much easier if he did pick Kamala. I'd also be fine with Booker, or Stacey Abrams.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)It would ruin her career after the loss.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,386 posts)Harris couldnt even explain her own health care plan. How would she fare in any discussion of the details of Bernies plans which even he hasnt sorted out?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pinkstarburst
(1,327 posts)He's not going to make an unwise pick. He's going to choose someone smart and capable who is also appealing to voters who may be shying away from him.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Moderateguy
(945 posts)Then he better pick someone who appeals to the moderate wing of the party. However, I think Harris would be welcomed by the moderates
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MrsCoffee
(5,803 posts)A male almost 80 who recently had a heart attack and stent placement isnt likely to be around for much longer.
I cant believe that he is anywhere close to being our nominee. What a fucking joke.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pinkstarburst
(1,327 posts)He's not going to pick Gabbard. Sanders wants to win. He may like Gabbard (and Nina Turner) but I think he can read the writing on the wall there.
I think he's more likely to go with someone who shares his ideals, and will also bring in voters. Elizabeth Warren is the most likely one.
If not her, he might also pick someone like Julian Castro, another smart progressive candidate who would be popular with POC voters. (I still think Warren is the more likely pick since she's more popular with the electorate overall.)
He might even go for someone like Buttigieg, Harris or Klobuchar, who are popular figures, moderates, and would soften the ticket into more of a compromise ballot.
But again, I think he's going to pick someone who will support him, and also help him win. Sanders wants this.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Last edited Tue Feb 25, 2020, 10:05 AM - Edit history (1)
Shes not old enough, technically, but the SCOTUS has never enforced the Constitutions age requirements.
Edited to add: Although I thought that the SCOTUS had addressed, but chose not to enforce, these provisions, it appears that I was in error. The SCOTUS has never addressed this question. The Senate has, and it has chosen to admit and seat a number of under-aged Senators over the years. The trend, however, is toward not seating a person in the Senate until that person reaches the Constitutionally-mandated age.
https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/minute/Youngest_Senator.htm
I apologize for any confusion caused by my original post.
-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,899 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
former9thward
(32,097 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Response to former9thward (Reply #72)
Laelth This message was self-deleted by its author.
former9thward
(32,097 posts)On his wiki page there is no reference to a court case. He became a member of the U.S. House when he was 28. You just have to be 25 to be a member of the House.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Calhoun
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Laelth This message was self-deleted by its author.
Laelth
(32,017 posts)Apparently, the SCOTUS doesn't care.
-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
former9thward
(32,097 posts)Biden was 30 when he assumed office. He met the Constitution requirements. The others were not challenged. So SCOTUS never ruled on them one way or the other. Your original post was not true.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Laelth
(32,017 posts)My original post was in error. I edited it to better-reflect American political history.
You are correct to say that Biden was elected at 29 but that he was 30 when he was sworn in. The trend in the Senate appears to be not to seat a person elected to the Senate until that person reaches the appropriate age. As such, it seems far too risky for Sanders to nominate AOC.
-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
kentuck
(111,110 posts)In my opinion.
If she were to drop out.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)I think he should pick someone younger. As in someone with 16 good years in very hard work ahead of them. Not someone who would be pushing 90 if the baton were passed.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Democrats Ascendant
(601 posts)"Never will a running mate be more important than in this upcoming election" - no matter WHO the prevailing candidate will be....
The democratic electorate seems to want some sort of Frankencandidate (though not Al Franken, apparently): experienced like Biden, but visionary like Bernie, and as nice as Pete, but also a woman, who is black or brown.
The VP choice may have never been as important as in this cycle....
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
kcr
(15,320 posts)Considering he will pick Tulsi Gabbard. There is so much denial on how highly probable that is, but it's the truth.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)He wont be able to get any A listers.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blaukraut
(5,695 posts)Bernie isn't stupid, and he isn't running for president to prove a point. He does want to win.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SKKY
(11,826 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nanjeanne
(5,003 posts)it's going to be someone with progressive ideas from a geographical area we need to win who is younger and probably female and/or minority.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,974 posts)is that there is no way a liberal wins that Senate seat in WI right now. Other than that, she would be fabulous.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Nanjeanne
(5,003 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
obnoxiousdrunk
(2,910 posts)vote for the VP ?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SKKY
(11,826 posts)...but it certainly can be a detractor in a big way. We've all seen the movie Sarah Palin. We know how it ends.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
unblock
(52,386 posts)people vote the party and they vote the top of the ticket.
they simply do not vote the bottom of the ticket.
the bottom of the ticket is sometimes used to rationalize a vote, but it's nearly always a vote that was going that way regardless. a lot of people voted for reagan in 1984 claiming they couldn't vote for mondale/ferraro because they didn't think a woman could run the country, so they couldn't vote for ferraro as vp. but of course, these sexists were all republicans or right-leaning "independents" and were never going to vote for mondale anyway.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
unblock
(52,386 posts)people vote party and the top of the ticket.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,974 posts)You people kill me. Sanders could name the second coming of Christ as his running mate and y'all would find a reason that that was problematic.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MichMan
(11,999 posts)Aligned politically
POC
Female
Midwestern
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ElementaryPenguin
(7,800 posts)I think that's who Bernie would pick.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Lucid Dreamer
(584 posts)Sanders will pick Clinton as running mate if he wants to win.
This will please everybody that wants a rematch of 2016.
He will not be running in 2024 and Hillary will head the ticket then.
All Dems will be happy.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SKKY
(11,826 posts)...thus highlighting my concern over Sanders as our nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samnsara
(17,650 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)What's Ben Carson doing after November?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)Myself, I would love to see Bernie throw it open to the convention to choose the VP nominee just like Adlai Stevenson did in 1052.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden