Democratic Primaries

Democrats Ascendant

(601 posts) Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:15 PM Mar 2020

Biden Now Unofficially Leads in Delegates

54 Biden
26 Buttigieg
07 Klobuchar
__________
87 Biden

60 Sanders

08 Warren

I know this is not official until the convention, but just FYI.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Biden Now Unofficially Leads in Delegates (Original Post) Democrats Ascendant Mar 2020 OP

Is it automatic when a candidate quits & endorses another their delegates switch too? n/t napi21 Mar 2020 #1

Usually, IIRC relayerbob Mar 2020 #4

They didn't screw with the rules back in 2016 before or during the convention. LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #10

I didn't mean to suggest the rules messed with at the convention relayerbob Mar 2020 #14

By the rules, same ones used in 2016. LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #20

Thank you relayerbob Mar 2020 #21

No Candidates can release their delegates Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #15

I don't think so.... getagrip_already Mar 2020 #11

Not true Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #16

I think if a candidate releases their delegates, they become uncommitted. TomSlick Mar 2020 #22

True Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #23

I don't see that anywhere in the rules. LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #24

No they can be released Dem4Life1102 Mar 2020 #26

Perhaps in the title put Biden unofficially leads in delegates jimfields33 Mar 2020 #2

Done! Democrats Ascendant Mar 2020 #6

Thanks! We're all in this together!!! jimfields33 Mar 2020 #12

+1000 relayerbob Mar 2020 #17

Aren't the pledged delegates bound to their candidate for the first round of voting? pnwmom Mar 2020 #3

Believe so sweetloukillbot Mar 2020 #5

Correct Democrats Ascendant Mar 2020 #9

Generally candidates get to approve or disapprove their delegates. LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #13

If a candidate doesn't get 300 delegates he/she isn't on the first ballot. That would probably... George II Mar 2020 #18

A candidate has to obtain 300 delegates in order to have their name submitted into nomination. TexasTowelie Mar 2020 #25

Don't be so sure on Warren delegates going to Sanders relayerbob Mar 2020 #7

Based on recent events and the debates, Warren is no longer a friend of Sanders. George II Mar 2020 #19

Wrong Moderateguy Mar 2020 #8

Can Bloomberg "buy" them? MichMan Mar 2020 #27

napi21

(45,806 posts)

1. Is it automatic when a candidate quits & endorses another their delegates switch too? n/t

Reply to Democrats Ascendant (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:18 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

relayerbob

(6,559 posts)

4. Usually, IIRC

Reply to napi21 (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:22 PM

Mar 2020

The delegate votes are mandatory, even if the candidate is out. On the first ballot. But then, they keep screwing with the rules, so who knows? LOL

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

LiberalFighter

(51,104 posts)

10. They didn't screw with the rules back in 2016 before or during the convention.

Reply to relayerbob (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:25 PM

Mar 2020

And they won't in 2020.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

relayerbob

(6,559 posts)

14. I didn't mean to suggest the rules messed with at the convention

Reply to LiberalFighter (Reply #10)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:29 PM

Mar 2020

But they've modified things substantially, so I don't know them for sure

However, I believe they are bound by law to the candidates that are chosen

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

LiberalFighter

(51,104 posts)

20. By the rules, same ones used in 2016.

Reply to relayerbob (Reply #14)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:43 PM

Mar 2020

Delegates are bound. And when those delegates are elected at their state convention the candidate has the right to approve or disapprove running as a delegate. I know from experience as it happened in 2016 in our district delegate election.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

relayerbob

(6,559 posts)

21. Thank you

Reply to LiberalFighter (Reply #20)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:44 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)

15. No Candidates can release their delegates

Reply to relayerbob (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:31 PM

Mar 2020

and instruct them to vote for another candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

getagrip_already

(14,838 posts)

11. I don't think so....

Reply to napi21 (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:26 PM

Mar 2020

The delegates are bound to their winners during the first ballot. I think the way it works is that if nobody gets 50 percent, then they are free to change horses on the second ballot. Also, the unfledged delegates can then vote as well.

The only path bernie has is to get over 50% on the first ballot. He is so divisive he won't be able to swing the delegates his way once they can all vote their conscience.

That (bernie getting more than 50% outright) isn't likely. But who knows.The gop didn't buck trump. Hopefully we are smarter than that.

A lot has changed since SC. A lot will change after tomorrow night. But unless it's a runaway victory, there will be a second round of voting at the convention.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)

16. Not true

Reply to getagrip_already (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:32 PM

Mar 2020

A candidate can release their delegates and instruct them to vote for someone else.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

TomSlick

(11,110 posts)

22. I think if a candidate releases their delegates, they become uncommitted.

Reply to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #16)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:46 PM

Mar 2020

A candidate that releases their delegates can ask their delegates to vote for the candidate they endorse but (from what I can find) they cannot instruct them how to vote. That being said, I would expect most delegates to vote as their candidate suggests.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)

23. True

Reply to TomSlick (Reply #22)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 11:00 PM

Mar 2020

They are not bound by the candidate’s recommendation but they usually follow the recommendation.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

LiberalFighter

(51,104 posts)

24. I don't see that anywhere in the rules.

Reply to Dem4Life1102 (Reply #16)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 11:01 PM

Mar 2020

They are free to vote differently after the first ballot though.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)

26. No they can be released

Reply to LiberalFighter (Reply #24)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 11:07 PM

Mar 2020

by the candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

jimfields33

(15,979 posts)

2. Perhaps in the title put Biden unofficially leads in delegates

Reply to Democrats Ascendant (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:19 PM

Mar 2020

I thought South Carolina gave him some more.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Democrats Ascendant

(601 posts)

6. Done!

Reply to jimfields33 (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:22 PM

Mar 2020

You're right.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

jimfields33

(15,979 posts)

12. Thanks! We're all in this together!!!

Reply to Democrats Ascendant (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:27 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

relayerbob

(6,559 posts)

17. +1000

Reply to jimfields33 (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:32 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

pnwmom

(108,997 posts)

3. Aren't the pledged delegates bound to their candidate for the first round of voting?

Reply to Democrats Ascendant (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:19 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

sweetloukillbot

(11,071 posts)

5. Believe so

Reply to pnwmom (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:22 PM

Mar 2020

And why assume Warren’s are going to Sanders?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Democrats Ascendant

(601 posts)

9. Correct

Reply to sweetloukillbot (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:24 PM

Mar 2020

And I wasn't adding Warren to Sanders, just listing them out in descending order.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

LiberalFighter

(51,104 posts)

13. Generally candidates get to approve or disapprove their delegates.

Reply to sweetloukillbot (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:29 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

18. If a candidate doesn't get 300 delegates he/she isn't on the first ballot. That would probably...

Reply to pnwmom (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:33 PM

Mar 2020

...mean that the delegates they earn would vote for the candidate they endorse/support.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

TexasTowelie

(112,456 posts)

25. A candidate has to obtain 300 delegates in order to have their name submitted into nomination.

Reply to pnwmom (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 11:05 PM

Mar 2020

If the candidate doesn't meet that criteria, then their delegates become uncommitted and are free to choose someone else.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

relayerbob

(6,559 posts)

7. Don't be so sure on Warren delegates going to Sanders

Reply to Democrats Ascendant (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:23 PM

Mar 2020

If DU is any indication, the majority of Warren supports are moving to Biden

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

19. Based on recent events and the debates, Warren is no longer a friend of Sanders.

Reply to relayerbob (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:34 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Moderateguy

(945 posts)

8. Wrong

Reply to Democrats Ascendant (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:23 PM

Mar 2020

The delegates for Amy and Pete are free to vote their conscience if they are RELEASED. I haven’t seen any announcement that they have been released. Pete and Amy cannot just give them to anybody

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

MichMan

(11,979 posts)

27. Can Bloomberg "buy" them?

Reply to Democrats Ascendant (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 11:31 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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