Three way tie in Massachusetts

[RandySF]

Here are the other common findings:

Biden leads in Alabama, Arkansas, North Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Oklahoma and Virginia.

Sanders leads in California, Colorado, Maine, Minnesota, Vermont, and Utah.

Massachusetts is a three-way tie between Warren, Biden and Sanders.


https://politicalwire.com/2020/03/03/what-the-campaign-internal-polls-say/

[Bluethroughu]

1. Biden/Sanders ticket

We all win.

[leftieNanner]

3. Interesting idea that will never happen

Which one runs at the top of the ticket?

No way either one of them would take the VP spot.

[TwilightZone]

4. No, because many Sanders supporters wouldn't accept anything other than Sanders at the top.

In fact, some would turn on him, claiming he's a sellout for agreeing to a "deal" with the "establishment".

For that matter, I doubt Sanders would, either.

[Bluethroughu]

13. I wouldn't think that...

Biden President because he was already VP.

Just asked 10 Bernie supporters I know and they all think it's a great idea. Bernie supporters are not the enemy. Trump and the enabling Republicans are.

[robbedvoter]

18. but, but...Democratic establishment and all that....

someone is changing their tune...

[Moderateguy]

29. Not going to happen

Sanders has too massive an ego to be the VP nominee and if he is at the top of the ticket we have the same problems that led to the consolidation of the moderate field. I can still see a Biden/Warren ticket. The only issue is Warren's age. Having two 70+ people on the same ticket is not a smart idea

[Act_of_Reparation]

21. Citation needed.

[TwilightZone]

24. They already turned on Warren.

You disagree? She's now a snake, a sellout, and part of the establishment. Krystal Ball says she's selling out for "gender tokenism".

Over at JPR, those clowns are busy calling her the "C" word.

My assertion stands. Many Sanders supporters - I quite clearly did not say all - will NEVER accept anything other than Bernie as president.

[Act_of_Reparation]

30. I don't know what you mean by "they" or "many"

Sanders' supporters are millions strong. Jackass internet trolls could be a very unrepresentative, if very loud, sample of the overall population.

[honest.abe]

5. Zero chance of that happening.

Biden will pick an experienced intelligent charismatic woman.. probably African American or Hispanic or mixed race and less than 60 years old.

[obamanut2012]

8. Great, two old white guys

Why not Warren? Why not Klobuchar.

Yeah, no to that ticket.

[OnDoutside]

20. Because they weren't good enough this time ? Don't forget that those two were in the race for

longer that Biden certainly, and when Biden looked beat, they still floundered. And on top of them, Kamala didn't fire up after her first few events. It's not a "give everyone a cookie" event.

[dawg day]

32. It's also not a "who was the toughest before" contest.

First, it's about who would be a good president if they had to fill in.
Second, it's about what voters the VP could bring into the booth that the P candidate might not get. And yeah, a woman could well bring in voters a little skeptical of either of the men.
Geography might matter too. (By that count, Warren wouldn't help much probably-- both B and S are northeasterners, and so is she. And Harris is from a state that will vote for the Dem anyway. Klobuchar, however....)

Often presidential candidates don't choose former rivals.

[OnDoutside]

41. I would agree with you on that. I think it will be a woman who will not only energise the South but

all over the country, POC and progressives - Stacy Abrams. Rick Wilson thinks Amy Klobuchar might be a possibility for hitting the Midwest. I don't see picking someone from California or the North East making sense either.

[squirecam]

42. Amy is great.

Helps in the Midwest. Female. Shares Biden’s positions. Is highly qualified to take over day 1.

She would make a great choice.

[AGeddy]

9. Absolutely ZERO chance of two 78-year-olds on the same ticket

Neither would accept the VP role of the other in any case.

[Blue_true]

23. I believe Biden may go for that, but not Sanders.

I see Sanders as wanting a 100% pure person as either #1 or #2 on a ticket with him.

[dware]

27. Ummmmmmmm, NO.

Bernie doesn't work well with others, his attitude is my way or the highway, no compromise.

[dawg day]

28. No. The point of a VP is to become president if the president dies in office or is incapacitated.

It has happened several times in the last 100 years. Choosing a VP who is also a septuagenarian would be dangerous.

We're Democrats. Politics is NOT the most important thing. Governing well counts too, and that means a younger VP, and there are several good candidates for that.

[mcar]

31. No.

[Happy Hoosier]

34. Do you think Bernie would ever accept a Veep slot?

I can't see it.

[honest.abe]

2. Funny if Biden takes Mass.

That would be the killer win.

[getagrip_already]

7. It was a mind ripper.....

I know i could have strategically voted for liz to take delegates away from sanders. But I had to go with joe. Too many what-if's to throw a vote away.

Joe got my vote in MA.

[honest.abe]

10. Good deal!

I think you voted for a winner!

[frazzled]

6. It's a really bad sign for Warren

She's been polling only around 25% (or less) in her home state. Any other candidate would suspend at that point, but she claims she's staying in to the end. That's okay with me, because it probably can only take votes away from Sanders. Or maybe it's a wash: takes away from both Biden and Sanders, in which case no effect at all.

[getagrip_already]

11. it actually does matter.....

If liz stays in, she will likely keep racking up delegates, albeit at a slow rate. That has the ability to deny sanders a 50+% convention position if for some reason he keeps racking up wins (not likely from here on).

That will make the convention go to a second vote. At that point, the unfledged delegates can vote and any committed delegates will be free to vote at will.

Bernie won't win there. Sure, his bots will threaten and intimidate and pull a trump to try to yell their way to victory, but it likely won't work.

So keep on winning liz, keep on running..

[Demsrule86]

12. I doubt she will continue to be viable.

[frazzled]

14. She could release her delegates to Sanders after the first round

Or they could change themselves ... it's rare, but if she only has 3% of the delegates, they might do it on their own.

[getagrip_already]

15. she has no love for sanders......

she won't be releasing them to him. Besides, that's not how that works. She can release them, but she can't commit them to support any particular candidate.

And since most of them are likely dem party loyalists.........

[frazzled]

19. She can "instruct" them

of course, they don't have to follow.

But I don't see her rebuffing Sanders. After all, they both have advocated for a wealth tax, and full Medicare for All as important planks in their agendas. If she was serious about that (and I'm never sure whether she's serious or just trying for votes), it would seem she'd have to throw in for Sanders. However, she's toed the Democratic Party line pretty well, so she might well go for Biden. Either way, she's put her own self in a box.

[getagrip_already]

22. there is no upside for her endorsing sanders.....

First, his campaign has brutally attacked her personally. She knows he is at the very least indifferent to it, and likely the root of it.

So she would look cowardly to now support him. Kind of like cruz supporting trump.

Plus, he won't win, and she knows that instinctively. Joe has the best chance, and if she wants to ever be anything but a us senator her best chances are to support the party.

I just don't see her giving bernie a hat tip. Politically it would be suicide. She might even get primaried over it. I know I'd vote her out if she did that (yes, I'm a MA voter). I don't care if she is really my first choice, I wouldn't support her again if she supported bernie. Ever.

[Turin_C3PO]

36. That's no reason

to not support Elizabeth. I can’t believe you’d vote for a Republican senator over the great Senator Warren based on who she endorses in the primaries. She probably won’t endorse Bernie but if she does, it’s not the end of the world.

[getagrip_already]

37. I wasn't clear - I meant in a primary, not a general.......

If a strong dem primaried her, I'd support them. But only if she throws support to bernie.

I would NOT vote for a republican or with hold my vote in a general. Pthkttttt.,

[Turin_C3PO]

39. Oh ok.

That’s understandable.

[seaglass]

16. From MA - my husband and future SIL were for Pete/Amy and Amy/Bernie respectively. My husband

voted Biden, my future SIL voting Bernie and my daughter and I Warren.

So a mixed bag.

[SiliconValley_Dem]

17. Never thought Biden would Be strong in Mass

[getagrip_already]

25. Despite it's reputation, MA is actually very moderate......

It's elected several republican centrist governors, and even a recent us senator. The towns are largely voting down cannabis businesses, including medical. There are a lot of old school, traditional dem's. They aren't going to vote for bernie. And are pragmatic enough (like me) to vote the best candidate to win against trump, even though warren is their fav.

[RandySF]

33. And don't forget African Americans in the Boston area.

[getagrip_already]

35. yup, although we do have a very large number of college students here as well......

But a lot of those will vote in their home states. Still, it's a large number.

[Turin_C3PO]

38. I've noticed Easterners

are more conservative regarding marijuana than Westerners. Places that make cannibals illegal are just contributing to unfair jail sentences and missing out on tax revenue. Maybe Biden can make it legal nationwide.

[getagrip_already]

40. MA is recreationally and medically legal....

We can possess, gift, grow, and consume freely (well, in private anyway).

What I was referring to is local communities banning cannabis related businesses. They can do that, but can't ban any of the other rights we have under law.

So only a few communities so far have allowed retail shops to open. But they do exist.

Prior to full legalization, we had a long period of decriminalization. Getting caught with up to an ounce was nothing worse than a $50 traffic fine. No criminal penalties.

So yeah, new england is traditionally a conservative region, but we do have our moments of sanity.

We also are on a path to a $15 minimum wage by 2023. It's $12.75 right now. Sure beats PA at $7.25......

[Green Line]

26. I just voted for Joe in MA

I was talking to 2 women at the checkout table, both were Joe supporters.