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dsc

(52,160 posts)
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 11:07 PM Mar 2020

So MSNBC refuses to say Pete won Iowa

I know that in the larger story of the night this isn't the top story but in terms of history it most surely does. He won Iowa by the way it was measured until a gay man won it apparently. MSNBC should know better, be better, and do better.

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So MSNBC refuses to say Pete won Iowa (Original Post) dsc Mar 2020 OP
+10000 FreeState Mar 2020 #1
He didn't win the popular vote sweetloukillbot Mar 2020 #3
He did too - certified totals FreeState Mar 2020 #6
That's the delegate totals sweetloukillbot Mar 2020 #7
What? Both are listed and Pete's verified totals of both are higher n/t FreeState Mar 2020 #8
It's some weird thing w/ Iowa sweetloukillbot Mar 2020 #10
Look at my link - it shows the VOTES n/t FreeState Mar 2020 #11
It's just odd. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #2
From my understanding... W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #4
He should get six times the delegates. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #5
MSNBC is a weird animal and tilts towards Sanders NCProgressive Mar 2020 #9
News to me. Dem2 Mar 2020 #12
 

FreeState

(10,572 posts)
1. +10000
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 11:08 PM
Mar 2020

He won both the delegate count and the popular vote.

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sweetloukillbot

(11,009 posts)
3. He didn't win the popular vote
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 11:13 PM
Mar 2020

Bernie winning the popular vote is a big talking point.
I wonder if that's why they haven't decalred a victor...

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FreeState

(10,572 posts)
6. He did too - certified totals
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 11:16 PM
Mar 2020

Candidate Delegates Vote Percentage Votes

Pete Buttigieg
14
26%
56,295

Bernie Sanders
12
26%
56,202

Source: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/2020-iowa-caucus-election-results/story?id=68333529

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primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sweetloukillbot

(11,009 posts)
7. That's the delegate totals
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 11:21 PM
Mar 2020

Buttigeig 562.95 vs Sanders 562.02
I'm trying to find the final vote totals, but Sanders won by around 10K, I think.

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FreeState

(10,572 posts)
8. What? Both are listed and Pete's verified totals of both are higher n/t
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 11:22 PM
Mar 2020

Candidate Deleg. Vote % Votes
Pete Buttigieg
P. Buttigieg
14
26%
56,295

Bernie Sanders
B. Sanders
12
26%
56,202

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sweetloukillbot

(11,009 posts)
10. It's some weird thing w/ Iowa
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 11:26 PM
Mar 2020

The larger number is "county delegates," and the smaller is the actual convention delegates.
I don't understand it myself, honestly.

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FreeState

(10,572 posts)
11. Look at my link - it shows the VOTES n/t
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 11:27 PM
Mar 2020
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TwilightZone

(25,468 posts)
2. It's just odd.
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 11:09 PM
Mar 2020

I'd love to know what their rationale is. Well, maybe I wouldn't.

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W_HAMILTON

(7,864 posts)
4. From my understanding...
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 11:15 PM
Mar 2020

…even though Iowa has certified their results showing that Buttigieg won their state, Sanders has petitioned the DNC for something (???) in the hopes of having the results overturned or delegates refused or something. Who the hell knows. Once that issue is settled, it will be like the sixth time Buttigieg has beaten Sanders in the state!

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TwilightZone

(25,468 posts)
5. He should get six times the delegates.
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 11:16 PM
Mar 2020

It would only be fair.

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NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
9. MSNBC is a weird animal and tilts towards Sanders
Tue Mar 3, 2020, 11:24 PM
Mar 2020
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