Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumThe new smear from the right is that Biden is senile.
I am hearing the Fox News guys and the CEC pushing it hard. We need to be ready for this- it is the only thing they have and they are goin to run with it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)the dangerous crazy guy in the White House. It won't work donnie.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)and hit back at the Orange Asshat with everything we got. They are scared as fuck and are trying to mess with our primary with this new smear!
They know Joe is going to whoop 'em silly.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mindfulNJ
(2,367 posts)We need to come at them with everything we got this time around. Lord knows we have plenty of ammunition with Trumpy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)No more playing nice.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
VladmireTrumpkins
(370 posts)Fight fire with fire! No holds barred when fighting the GOP.. their record is plain...they hate Democracy!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(47,430 posts)Already this morning, a disappointed Bernie supporter on Facebook claimed Joe had dementia and compared him to Ronald Reagan. He was extremely distraught.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gollygee
(22,336 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
moose65
(3,166 posts)And I agree - people who support Trump don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to discussing mental fitness for office!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Frances
(8,545 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Baclava
(12,047 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
obamanut2012
(26,076 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Vogon_Glory
(9,117 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gollygee
(22,336 posts)They just fling crap around and hope something sticks
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,976 posts)It won't stick.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Zeus69
(391 posts)Need to fight fire with fire. Hopefully Bloomberg will withdraw at some point and financially back Joe.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)But he's not at the top of his game, either. You're crazy if you're not just a little bit worried about what will happen when he gets onto the debate stage with Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)He is sundowning right before our eyes!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)Trump isn't senile, either. His pathos is one of personality, not cognition. He's a liar and a buffoon, but he's still agile on the stage. If you're going to successfully "debate" him, you need to be aggressive and quick on your feet.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MontanaFarmer
(630 posts)While he may not be senile, his mental acuity is very lacking. He's a terrible debater in the traditional sense. If I was going to advise Biden (and of course I'm not), I'd tell him to not even debate trump while on stage, just make your points and get out, because trump's just going to turn it into a shit-flinging contest, and if you partake in that contest you can't beat the ace shit-flinger.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)It's ain't about being right. It's about performance. And Trump is a professional performer.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MontanaFarmer
(630 posts)That's why i think Joe would want to ignore him as much as possible and just make his case. I do share a bit of your concern, but I also saw what happened in our democratic electorate last night. Folks who know Biden, warts and all, basically decided on their own that he's the one they want against trump. That carries weight for me. He was never my first choice (Harris, then Warren, a dash of Klobuchar), but he's the viable choice left standing IMO, and a man of good faith and integrity. I'm proud to support and donate to him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Funtatlaguy
(10,873 posts)Speak slowly.
Speak in simple short sentences. Not paragraphs.
Stick to one topic in each sentence. Do not change topics mid sentence.
Stop saying look so much.
Smile more.
Relax.
Youve got this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
renate
(13,776 posts)He ought to be, anyway. Although I know (like Bernie) he's shown a bit of temper a few times in public, and it's not super cute, however merited.
But that's not who he actually is, which makes him a great contrast to Trump. So I agree with your advice to smile more (again, great contrast to Trump) and to do all those other things, too. The country wants a calm and reassuring and empathetic president after the nonstop rollercoaster of emotions of the past three and a half years. We're exhausted.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Funtatlaguy
(10,873 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lulu KC
(2,565 posts)The contrast will be striking to anyone who's actually paying attention.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Short simple sentences with one thought. He gets stuck and comes across as old and forgetful when he attempts the complex response. Biden was capable of that in 2008 and 2012 but not today.
Gore lost because of the sighing in debate one. Don't let anyone pretend otherwise. I knew darn well the polling would shift dramatically I saw it in my living room while hosting a debate watching party. I had young women literally grabbing their flip phones and calling their mothers in horrors that they had actually intended to vote for Al Gore.
Obviously Gore would have won anyway minus those ballot designs. But debate one caused the race to be closer than it should have been.
Now anyone who doesn't understand Biden's vulnerability in the debates is indeed kidding themselves. For one thing, he's going to need to talk much more when it's one-on-one and not one among seven.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
renate
(13,776 posts)It's so maddening. I remember that debate. A FEW SIGHS and everybody lost their minds. You'd have thought he'd grabbed W by the short and curlies live on stage. Of course, if he actually had grabbed somebody there and bragged about it, that would have been a real campaign-ender, right...?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Funtatlaguy
(10,873 posts)Privately, his staff should do this.
The only way he doesnt get the nomination is if he stumbles thru a debate with Sanders.
Right now, debate prep is MORE IMPORTANT than holding rallies.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
treestar
(82,383 posts)Dump?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
PJMcK
(22,037 posts)I've heard vehemently negative comments about Biden from Sanders' supporters and others on the far-right.
Of course, we have a president who is senile.
Perhaps we need a Constitutional Amendment requiring psychological testing. (snark)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kingofalldems
(38,456 posts)with those talking points and Stern shot him down.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)Wackadoodle city.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tanyev
(42,556 posts)neurological and psychological exam by competent and independent experts.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)daughter is also saying this. It comes from somewhere else also.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Zoonart
(11,866 posts)a mental acuity test on live TV. Or... they can both have a full mental and physical work-up with impartial witnesses.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,059 posts)than anything else. He needs to get more rest and give shorter speeches. Long winded speeches arent for everybody.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)Former lecturer with that tendency. So his memory is fine. Agree he needs to stay more on
script for some venues, those official appearances.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
drray23
(7,627 posts)I've seen it coming from other quarters as well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Here. Yesterday.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
drray23
(7,627 posts)He did say at least that he will vote Biden in the general if he is the nominee. However he is somehow convinced Biden is senile.
I told him to get out of the twitterverse and actually read or watch Biden's speeches and debates and honestly tell me if it's a credible claim.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Roll him across the stage with drool coming out the side of his mouth.
And Id still vote for him over the Orange buffoon.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Starting off Monday night, as things take an epic turn for the better for Biden, bestselling author Seth Abramson abandons all credibility to do concern troll.
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)Every step of the way!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)It's pathetic.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BusyBeingBest
(8,052 posts)too hard, basically just be the same as Donnie Dumbass, doing friendly rallies and not being overexposed.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lees1975
(3,859 posts)then Trump has alzheimer's.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,336 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)I maxed out for primaries back in October. I have met and got hugged by Joe at two fundraisers. Joe is sharp and has not lost a step.
At the first fundraiser, Joe did the selfie shot himself (he took my iPhone from me) and did a great job.
At the second fundraiser, we talked about stuttering. I was a stutterer until 4th grade. We were told that my son was "developmentally delayed" by the head of Jewish education in Harris County who was on the board of my Temple with me. It turned out that my son and I each had a language processing issue that manifested itself in different ways. I stuttered until 4th grade and then grew out of it. My son was tested and had some therapy and is now a partner a major law firm (he graduate Phi Beta Kappa and was an editor on a law journal).
Joe hugged me and we discussed stuttering. I was amazed at the compassion and humanity of this man
Joe has not lost a step and is an amazing person. I have seen him up close
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
muntrv
(14,505 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gulliver
(13,180 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
VladmireTrumpkins
(370 posts)Frankly I would vote for Vladmire Putin over Donald Trump...
When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy. ― Abraham Lincoln, Lincoln Letters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,691 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mersky
(4,981 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Firestorm49
(4,035 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
33taw
(2,442 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nolabear
(41,963 posts)Ill say at the offset that I like Joe and Joe has gotten older, as have we all. Is he at peak? Define it. Is he declining? Define it.
Does anyone have the vaguest idea how youd come off in front of a camera hours per day, your every twitch scrutinized and used to shore up whatever pet theory each person wants to push? If youre a hugger now youre a creep, no matter whats your intent. If you misspeak youre gaffe prone, no matter youve been talking nonstop for days and have had people firing talking points and questions at you without ceasing. If you wax nostalgic youre out of touch. If you use modern vernacular youre an embarrassing boomer. If you stumble over words youre feeble.
Being older does slow some things down and cause some things like anomia, temporary forgetting of words and names. Its not dementia and its not a sign of failing cognition. Its literally specific neural pathways not connecting as quickly. It happens to damn near all of us if we live long enough.
Im sure campaigning is a beast on older people, but Id put some elders far ahead of youngers in handling it. Governing takes wisdom and intelligence and the will to place people around you who will carry out a cohesive, purpose driven plan that reflects the wants and needs of a nation.
Joe is fine. If Joe IS slowing hes fine. Hes not developing a different personality or forgetting what hes there for. Dont give the right, whose boy is genuinely personality disordered and is trying to be a dictator, fuel against a decent, smart man who yes, is in his seventies. And can get us out of this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sweetloukillbot
(11,023 posts)Im watching my mom decline from Alzheimers - it is in now way comparable to Bidens speeches. And I find it incredibly insulting to insinuate that it is.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Oh, wait. I see my mistake. Never mind.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)You know how Joe used to challenge people to a push up contest to show how robust he is for his age? What will put this hit meme to rest for the overwhelming majority of the sane American public is the upcoming one on one 90 minute plus debate Joe Biden will have with Bernie Sanders in less than two weeks. That is a much more demanding format than a six person debate where one gets time to gather one's thoughts. Biden doesn't have to "win" that debate to demolish that smear, he just has to hold his own and I'm pretty darn sure he will.
I hate smears of any kind. Let politics be dominated by the issues embraced by, and the integrity of, our candidates.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)Joe will win that one.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)It is also coming from the left.
I have seen veiled posts here questioning Biden's mental acuity
Makes me really angry that people supposedly on our side would do that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DeterDeter
(70 posts)Funny, I remember this going around on Twitter when Biden was leading in the polls, and then it mysteriously went away for a while when he was down...and now it's magically back. I find it personally offensive because I have had family members who had diagnosed Dementia...eff these transparent armchair doctors, because they seem to have no idea what it actually looks like. Also, screw Hillary's email story, the press never did an accounting for the online smears that persisted for months/were assisted for months for many mainstream media folks that Hillary was secretly dying, or had Parkinson's or something. I fully expect it to continue through election day aided by right, the feral left, and Russian trolls. Also bold because they are doing this to prop up a candidate who had a heart attack just a few months ago.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eyeball_Kid
(7,432 posts)I suspect that Biden wasn't so sure of his candidacy before then. He seemed both hesitant and distracted. It APPEARED that he was losing capacity. Since SC, Biden has been upbeat and focused. Go figure.
He may, at 77, still be in a decline cognitive state, which would be natural for a man his age. But he may have enough drive and activation to nonetheless move forward and draw more people into his camp. Bernie is about the same age and would naturally encounter the same limitations based on his age. The VP nomination is vitally important for both candidates. Warren or Harris would be ideal, but not so if Sanders gets the nomination because picking either, for him, would vacate TWO Senate seats.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)were a New England primary, and two caucuses. He gave great speeches, he put in the time, but he knew those would not go to him.
Most of his supporters here said so, but people lapped up the popular media narrative.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
treestar
(82,383 posts)They are just stupid. Who is going to buy this in opposition to the Dotard?
And how does someone senile manage to get a major party nomination (other than Republican :rofl
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden