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Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:47 AM Mar 2020

Two tweaks and Sanders could have been a big winner

1) by claiming to be a democrat...instead introducing division by claiming mantle of a socialist democrat/democratic socialist
2) by directing 90% of his anger against Trump/GOP instead of democrats

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Two tweaks and Sanders could have been a big winner (Original Post) Fresh_Start Mar 2020 OP
Now he'll step up his attacks on the "Democratic establishment" and billionaires. George II Mar 2020 #1
All that will do DownriverDem Mar 2020 #7
Not doing the 60 minutes interview jimfields33 Mar 2020 #2
I don't think I saw that. LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #17
Castro comments was all it took jimfields33 Mar 2020 #22
His anger and divisiveness is sinking him fast. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #3
Then He Would Not Be Bernie TomCADem Mar 2020 #4
yes, he would be warren without the handicap of a vagina Fresh_Start Mar 2020 #8
Except for one thing DownriverDem Mar 2020 #5
His temperament wears on you after a while. redstatebluegirl Mar 2020 #6
Never did Cha Mar 2020 #19
It's not enough to claim to be a Democrat bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #9
Except he couldn't. Like Nader before him his beef IS with the Democrats robbedvoter Mar 2020 #10
3rd- Not praise left-wing authoritarianism. IluvPitties Mar 2020 #11
yes, not fawning over socialist dictators, would help too nt Fresh_Start Mar 2020 #13
The "socialist" label is toxic in America DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2020 #12
yes it introduces a completely unnecessary discussion point Fresh_Start Mar 2020 #14
Could you imagine a whole general election campaign debating the merits of socialism? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2020 #21
By hiring staff that are not nutcases. drray23 Mar 2020 #15
they took their lead from Sanders on all three of those behaviors Fresh_Start Mar 2020 #16
One of them need to be expunged as a DNC member. LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #18
By not antagonizing the entire party Renew Deal Mar 2020 #20
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
1. Now he'll step up his attacks on the "Democratic establishment" and billionaires.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:49 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
7. All that will do
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:55 AM
Mar 2020

is piss us off more. He would not gain voters from that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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jimfields33

(15,787 posts)
2. Not doing the 60 minutes interview
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:49 AM
Mar 2020

Totally went down hill from there unfortunately. Timing of this and South Carolina were not bernie’s Friend.

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LiberalFighter

(50,912 posts)
17. I don't think I saw that.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 12:46 PM
Mar 2020

I did hear about the Castro thing though.

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jimfields33

(15,787 posts)
22. Castro comments was all it took
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 01:00 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
3. His anger and divisiveness is sinking him fast.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:49 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
4. Then He Would Not Be Bernie
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:52 AM
Mar 2020

Bernie's whole career is built on attacking Democrats from the "left" and pushing a false and fraudulent equivalency between the parties. If he made those two tweaks, then he would essentially be Warren.

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Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
8. yes, he would be warren without the handicap of a vagina
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:57 AM
Mar 2020

and with an average rather than excellent intelligence and without the work ethic...but otherwise warren.

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DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
5. Except for one thing
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:53 AM
Mar 2020

Bernie is not a Dem and will quit as soon as he can. Many folks do not understand how alienating that is for many of us. And attacking Dems would do nothing for voters like me.

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redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
6. His temperament wears on you after a while.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:53 AM
Mar 2020

I liked him at first, but I got really tired of the hand waving, the scowl and his crazy supporters who bullied people. He also refused to truly embrace our party. If you run with us, you must be one of us, all of us, not a small fraction of us.

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bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
9. It's not enough to claim to be a Democrat
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 12:21 PM
Mar 2020

You actually have to be one, and you be one by not trying to implode the party structure so you can pick up the pieces and use them for your socialist agenda.

Those two would have worked.

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robbedvoter

(28,290 posts)
10. Except he couldn't. Like Nader before him his beef IS with the Democrats
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 12:22 PM
Mar 2020

It was my big problem with him. I didn't sense any passion to beat 🍊. Just to blow up our party. Period. I had visions of him picking Tulsi and doing all kinds of 💩y things to poke out eyes and make us stay home in November. Possibly, on purpose.

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IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
11. 3rd- Not praise left-wing authoritarianism.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 12:22 PM
Mar 2020
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Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
13. yes, not fawning over socialist dictators, would help too nt
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 12:31 PM
Mar 2020

nt

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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
12. The "socialist" label is toxic in America
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 12:24 PM
Mar 2020

Not necessarily to Democrats but because most Democratic office holders are terrified as being labeled as such.

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Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
14. yes it introduces a completely unnecessary discussion point
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 12:33 PM
Mar 2020

when you have to spend the time defending socialism, you don't have the time to actually sell your policies

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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
21. Could you imagine a whole general election campaign debating the merits of socialism?
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 12:58 PM
Mar 2020

Yes, yahoos call all Dems socialists but in this instance it would be true as that is what the candidate calls himself.

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drray23

(7,627 posts)
15. By hiring staff that are not nutcases.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 12:33 PM
Mar 2020

His staff did not help him. They were divisive, insulting and intolerant.

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Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
16. they took their lead from Sanders on all three of those behaviors
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 12:34 PM
Mar 2020

you know how much he likes people in his own image....

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LiberalFighter

(50,912 posts)
18. One of them need to be expunged as a DNC member.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 12:48 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Renew Deal

(81,856 posts)
20. By not antagonizing the entire party
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 12:50 PM
Mar 2020
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