Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumA problem Warren had on Super Tuesday was connecting with female voters
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Looking at exit poll data at WP
Minnesota
Biden 41% of female vote
Sanders 25% of female vote
Warren 19% of female vote
Massachusetts
Biden 34% of female vote
Sanders 26% of female vote
Warren 24% of female vote
California
Biden 24% of female vote
Sanders 31% of female vote
Warren 15% of female vote
Median support in Super Tuesday states
Biden 36% of female vote
Sanders 26% of female vote
Warren 16% of female vote
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/exit-polls-2020-super-tuesday-primary/
Here is exit poll data from two earlier contests:
New Hampshire
Sanders 31% of the female vote
Buttigieg 22% of the female vote
Klobuchar 17% of the female vote
Warren 7% of the female vote
Biden 8% of the female vote
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/exit-polls-2020-new-hampshire-primary/
South Carolina
Biden 49% of the female vote
Buttigieg 8% of the female vote
Gabbard 1% of the female vote
Klobuchar 4% of the female vote
Sanders 17% of the female vote
Steyer 12% of the female vote
Warren 8% of the female vote
https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/entrance-and-exit-polls/south-carolina/democratic
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)I vote Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Just sayin'..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)I know she probably doesnt need advice from anyone on the internet which likes to label things in the poorest light possible.
Im just saying this old white woman is a Biden supporter.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
whathehell
(29,067 posts)This old white woman is a Watren supporter.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)in her home state. That is never a good start.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)And they continue to treat women candidates as dismissively as men do.
That's on those women, not on the candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Her percentages with male voters isnt much better.
Hillary didnt have these problems when she ran. It may just be the candidate failed to connect.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Women didn't vote for her, a common thing for female candidates
And Hillary did indeed have that problem. If women - i.e., white women - had voted for her, she'd be running for her second term as president right now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Nt
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)bias from women this year.
Just as the fact that Barack Obama was elected president in 2008 doesn't mean that minority candidates will never again face racial discrimination in subsequent races.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
in2herbs
(2,945 posts)harboring of breaking the patriarchal system. The youth do vote as much but when they get older they will vote and their culture will be prepared for a female pres.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,040 posts)nomination. So i did not vote for her.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
snowybirdie
(5,227 posts)connect with her as a person, even with similar life experiences. I Liked her ideas but she came across to me as that perfect neighbor who ran all the charity fundraising and neighborhood events, and had wonderful, behaved children. While I with my messy house and brood of busy children, and not together life, muddled through. She intimidated me. Maybe it's a generational thing? She can do so much for us all in the Senate. She's brilliant!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
whathehell
(29,067 posts)I think.you'll.get a much different impression than that "perfect neighbor" one. I met her briefly, a couple of yeard ago. She's not intimidating at all.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
spooky3
(34,447 posts)Dems are so focused on beating Trump, that any candidate characteristic that some believe may make it harder for him/her to beat Trump, works against that candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)It's unfortunate because she's (I believe) so qualified, and this country NEEDS more women in charge.
sigh.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Politicub
(12,165 posts)It is well past time that a democratic woman should be president. It was encouraging to see Obama appoint women to the Supreme Court. It is going to take years of systemic change to infuse more feminism in our politics.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
andym
(5,443 posts)Many of her female and male voters went to them. Momentum gave first Bernie and then Joe large numbers of potential Elizabeth voters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)Reference: www.hercampus.com/school/augustana/what-internalized-misogyny
Women have a long history of not supporting women candidates as much as one would think they should.
I can't tell you as a Warren supporter I have been told by people "But a woman can't beat Trump". It's been a lot.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,298 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,298 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)The world woke up today to the shock news that the Republican candidate beat Hillary Clinton, the first female major-party candidate to run for the US presidency. In claiming this victory, Trump stumped the majority of pollsters and political commentators, who expected women to carry Clinton to the White House.
So, what exactly happened? Women did vote overwhelmingly to elect Clinton, but it was white women who helped hand Trump the presidency, according to Edison national election poll. Overall, 54% of women voted for Clinton, much higher than the 42% of women who voted for Trump. But when the womens vote is divided by race, it becomes clear that black women actually largely drove the so-called gender gap against Trump.
https://qz.com/833003/election-2016-all-women-voted-overwhelmingly-for-clinton-except-the-white-ones/
Why would any woman in their right mind vote for a misogynist like Trump?
But, OK, it seems that White women might be the ones most affected by internalized misogyny.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,298 posts)Warren did better with whites then Bloomberg.
But the exit poll doesn't break down race by sex.
Race
Median support in Super Tuesday states
White
Sanders 27%
Biden 34%
Bloomberg 13%
Warren 16%
Black
Sanders 17%
Biden 58%
Bloomberg 15%
Warren 5%
Hispanic/Latino
Sanders 35%
Biden 26%
Bloomberg 12%
Warren 8%
Asian
Sanders 41%
Biden 14%
Bloomberg 15%
Warren 10%
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/exit-polls-2020-super-tuesday-primary/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
spooky3
(34,447 posts)more comprehensive study by Pew Research, than the exit poll results analyzed immediately after the election.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bluewater
(5,376 posts)Thanks.
I'll try to google for it also.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
spooky3
(34,447 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,371 posts)In a ranked voting system you would have seen it. She fell apart on the question of electability.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
hlthe2b
(102,247 posts)Absolutely and totally desperate beyond all else... And, unfortunately (wrongly?) they concluded this was not time that a woman like Warren could do so.
Warren is a wonderful candidate. I think she worked harder, was more prepared, and more ready than nearly any other candidate and especially most of her male opponents. Timing is everything though and this is a really shitty time for quite a few of the candidates.
As Bluewater states upstream, internalized misogyny is an issue for some women, but I see it as broader than that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,298 posts)don't matter so much compared to who can best beat Trump
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
whathehell
(29,067 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dlk
(11,562 posts)That had a cumulative effect over time that cant be underestimated. The old boys like to stick together.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)How often we were told that she was annoying, her manner off-putting, her tone lecturing, etc.
Meanwhile, Bernie's passionate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dlk
(11,562 posts)It never ends and its thoroughly disgusting.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)and she in my consideration set. However, Ive always been concerned that she wouldnt play well outside of very solid blue areas. Her persona, to me, was everyones favorite college professor and that was the problem most people dont go to college.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,054 posts)Your keen focus on Warren is interesting, though.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)She is a good Senator and would add a lot to that 3 way debate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LAS14
(13,783 posts)... that a lot of her supporters are clear headed and smart just like her and saw that they had to fuel the fire that was ignited in South Carolina and stoked by Buttigieg and Klobuchar. (I early voted for Warren).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
whathehell
(29,067 posts)Most of her supporters are women, and Massachusetts placed her in a virtual tie with Bernie Sanders -- She certainly "connected" with me.
The problem may be more one of education or the lack of such..This study showed her highest approval rating among college graduates
and professionals, both white and black.
https://www.vox.com/2020/3/3/21162527/what-happened-to-elizabeth-warren
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pecosbob
(7,538 posts)was that the media refused to give her coverage.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided