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ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 02:49 PM Mar 2020

Elizabeth Warren checks the most boxes for VP

Balances out the gender issue. Balances out the political leaning issue. Is a ferocious opponent of corruption and money corrupting government.
No she doesn't bring anything to the table in terms of delivering a state but honestly when has that been the case in recent memory? My only concern is age.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Elizabeth Warren checks the most boxes for VP (Original Post) ibegurpard Mar 2020 OP
I'd love her. But we will owe this election, when we win it, to AA Democrats. Squinch Mar 2020 #1
Let me help you on this one. The VP pick had better be an AA woman. kwenu Mar 2020 #9
Warren fails to check the two most important boxes SCantiGOP Mar 2020 #14
After practically calling customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #38
She ticks the boxes for a serious Cabinet role. LisaM Mar 2020 #2
She doesn't check the most important two boxes this time: Age and ethnicity AGeddy Mar 2020 #3
No squirecam Mar 2020 #10
Amy would be a good VP. But she won't be the choice. AGeddy Mar 2020 #18
Biden does owe AA voters. squirecam Mar 2020 #24
Bingo! Val Demmings! Former sheriff and stellar congressperson. Great thought. Ninga Mar 2020 #36
Kamala would also check another box... cannabis_flower Mar 2020 #39
Val Demings was a rock star during the senate impeachment trial! FM123 Mar 2020 #40
Biden has said he wants someone he agrees with on policy. squirecam Mar 2020 #4
I disagree ibegurpard Mar 2020 #6
No it isn't. squirecam Mar 2020 #13
She picked someone who was too much like her. ibegurpard Mar 2020 #17
Amy brings white suburban women. squirecam Mar 2020 #21
she may be owed ibegurpard Mar 2020 #22
No it wouldn't. squirecam Mar 2020 #25
Yep. Tim Kane, nice guy wasn't enough. Ninga Mar 2020 #37
Brown might have also helped bring over some reluctant Bernie supporters democrattotheend Mar 2020 #28
Had Warren won I have said that squirecam Mar 2020 #30
And we would have lost a Senate seat ibegurpard Mar 2020 #31
We would have only lost the seat if they had won democrattotheend Mar 2020 #33
Yes. They are more compatible, and Amy's bringing Minnesota, WI, etc. BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #7
Exactly squirecam Mar 2020 #26
VP pamdb Mar 2020 #5
Age? Her energy puts most younger choices to shame Jersey Devil Mar 2020 #8
I'm thinking of the future ibegurpard Mar 2020 #12
She is an incredible woman and can do almost anything including being veep.... FM123 Mar 2020 #11
Oh, wow. That would be sweet. Squinch Mar 2020 #29
Joe wants someone on the same page as him on policy andym Mar 2020 #15
He's got to balance his deficiencies ibegurpard Mar 2020 #20
Agreed. But Biden is old school, so I'm doubtful he would choose Warren andym Mar 2020 #23
Cabinet. BusyBeingBest Mar 2020 #16
Yes. Squinch Mar 2020 #19
We have a Republican governor, remember Scott Brown. She has to stay in the Senate. Green Line Mar 2020 #27
Senate vacancies in Massachussetts are filled by special elections ibegurpard Mar 2020 #34
Yes please budkin Mar 2020 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Mar 2020 #35
Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes! Goodheart Mar 2020 #41
I'd like to see it, but would also like to see Stacey Abrams (nt) pat_k Mar 2020 #42
 

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
1. I'd love her. But we will owe this election, when we win it, to AA Democrats.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 02:50 PM
Mar 2020

I suspect Biden will choose an AA woman.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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kwenu

(2,470 posts)
9. Let me help you on this one. The VP pick had better be an AA woman.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 02:54 PM
Mar 2020

If Democrats intend to win in November.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
14. Warren fails to check the two most important boxes
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 02:57 PM
Mar 2020

We only win when the two most Democratic voting blocks, which often don't vote in high percentages if they aren't motivated, show up at the polls.
Those two groups are minorities and under 30 voters.
That points to Kamala Harris.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
38. After practically calling
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:46 PM
Mar 2020

Joe a racist in an early debate, that's not going to happen.

Stacy Abrams has made it crystal clear for quite some time now that she's been waiting for the nod, probably expecting that the Democratic nominee will be a white male. She checks almost all the boxes.

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LisaM

(27,808 posts)
2. She ticks the boxes for a serious Cabinet role.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 02:50 PM
Mar 2020

No rush to a VP choice; heck, we don't even have a candidate yet.

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AGeddy

(509 posts)
3. She doesn't check the most important two boxes this time: Age and ethnicity
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 02:51 PM
Mar 2020


The VP will be a black or brown woman who is under 55 years old.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
10. No
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 02:54 PM
Mar 2020

The most important VP position is to be ready on day one.

Biden should choose the best possible person for the job. He needs the Midwest. Amy helps him do that. She handed him Minnesota last night. She was the first to endorse him. And she’s ready from day one.

Joe/Amy 2020

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AGeddy

(509 posts)
18. Amy would be a good VP. But she won't be the choice.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 02:58 PM
Mar 2020

Joe owes his comeback to the black community more than to Amy or anyone else.

The black community will be rewarded with the pick.


Kamala Harris would be ready on day one. So would Val Demmings.


The VP will be a black woman.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
24. Biden does owe AA voters.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:12 PM
Mar 2020

Just as they owed him by helping Obama get elected in 2008. You reward them by winning the election and helping them. Amy does that. She brings Those we need outside of our base. Biden brings our base AA voters.

You aren’t going to get the progressive burn it down campaign from Biden. That’s not Biden. Biden wants a running mate who agrees with him on policy. That’s Amy.

Biden didn’t win last night because Biden is suddenly great and unstoppable. Biden won last night because of help from Amy, Pete and Beto. Otherwise, he would have won many southern states, but lost Texas, Massachusetts, Minnesota, and done worse in CA.

Bernie would have a significant delegate lead. It would be a different story today.

Amy and Pete are owed big time. Pete isn’t ready on day one. But Amy is. Pete should get a cabinet position to aid his resume for the future.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
36. Bingo! Val Demmings! Former sheriff and stellar congressperson. Great thought.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:28 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
39. Kamala would also check another box...
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:49 PM
Mar 2020

Asian

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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FM123

(10,053 posts)
40. Val Demings was a rock star during the senate impeachment trial!
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 05:52 PM
Mar 2020

Florida is so proud of her!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
4. Biden has said he wants someone he agrees with on policy.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 02:51 PM
Mar 2020

That isn’t Warren. That’s Amy.

Amy also helps deliver the Midwest.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
6. I disagree
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 02:52 PM
Mar 2020

No one is going to deliver a state because they are from it or from the area. That is a bygone notion. And he needs someone who can balance his deficiencies. Whether or not you agree there are many people who think he's too soft on corporate money and influence. She is rock solid on that.

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
13. No it isn't.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 02:57 PM
Mar 2020

Hillary didn’t want to lose a senate seat in Ohio. But had she picked Brown he would have won her Ohio and the Midwest. He had the credibility and wouldn’t have let the campaign ignore those states until it was too late.

We need to think strategically. Amy checks every single box.

Policy. Female. Region. Experienced.

She is the best choice.

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ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
17. She picked someone who was too much like her.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 02:58 PM
Mar 2020

And brought nothing to the ticket. Kobluchar would be the same.

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
21. Amy brings white suburban women.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:05 PM
Mar 2020

Those we need outside of our base. Biden brings our base AA voters.

You aren’t going to get the progressive burn it down campaign from Biden. That’s not Biden. Biden wants a running mate who agrees with him on policy. That’s Amy.

Biden didn’t win last night because Biden is suddenly great and unstoppable. Biden won last night because of help from Amy, Pete and Beto. Otherwise, he would have won many southern states, but lost Texas, Massachusetts, Minnesota, and done worse in CA.

Bernie would have a significant delegate lead. It would be a different story today.

Amy and Pete are owed big time. Pete isn’t ready on day one. But Amy is. Pete should get a cabinet position to aid his resume for the future.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
22. she may be owed
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:06 PM
Mar 2020

but she's not going to bring anything to the ticket for him. It would be a repeat of Kaine.

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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
25. No it wouldn't.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:13 PM
Mar 2020

Amy clearly can deliver the Midwest. She did that last night for Joe. She’s done it her whole career. She will do it again as VP.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Ninga

(8,275 posts)
37. Yep. Tim Kane, nice guy wasn't enough.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:30 PM
Mar 2020
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democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
28. Brown might have also helped bring over some reluctant Bernie supporters
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:16 PM
Mar 2020

Some of them are far left, didn't vote for Obama in 2012 and never would have voted for her. But some would have been placated by a more progressive VP pick and saw her decision to choose a centrist as a slap in the face.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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squirecam

(2,706 posts)
30. Had Warren won I have said that
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:18 PM
Mar 2020

Sherrod Brown should be her pick. He checks all the boxes for her. Policy. Region. Etc.

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ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
31. And we would have lost a Senate seat
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:18 PM
Mar 2020

I certainly wouldn't have wanted to throw those dice. Same reason I'm glad he chose not to run for President even though he would have vaulted to the top of my preferences.

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democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
33. We would have only lost the seat if they had won
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:20 PM
Mar 2020

Are you telling me you wouldn't trade one Senate seat for having Hillary as president instead of Trump?

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BusyBeingBest

(8,052 posts)
7. Yes. They are more compatible, and Amy's bringing Minnesota, WI, etc.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 02:53 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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pamdb

(1,332 posts)
5. VP
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 02:52 PM
Mar 2020



From the very beginning, even before he wa actually IN it, I wanted Biden and Harris.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
8. Age? Her energy puts most younger choices to shame
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 02:53 PM
Mar 2020

My wife calls her "the engerizer bunny"

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ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
12. I'm thinking of the future
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 02:55 PM
Mar 2020

It's time to be promoting younger blood

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FM123

(10,053 posts)
11. She is an incredible woman and can do almost anything including being veep....
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 02:54 PM
Mar 2020

but where I would love to see her is in the soon to be blue senate as the new Senate Majority Leader kicking Mitch McConnell's sorry ass every single day.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Squinch

(50,949 posts)
29. Oh, wow. That would be sweet.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:16 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

andym

(5,443 posts)
15. Joe wants someone on the same page as him on policy
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 02:58 PM
Mar 2020

so it likely won't be Warren for his VP pick. However, Biden really needs to balance the ticket with someone on the left who is popular with young people, and Warren would be a good choice, as that demographic is the one he is most weak. It's very unclear who fits the bill besides her. Unlikely though.

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ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
20. He's got to balance his deficiencies
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:04 PM
Mar 2020

Whether one agrees that he has them or not the perception is there. We need someone who has the bona fides to go after the influence of big money in government and corruption. She has that in spades.

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andym

(5,443 posts)
23. Agreed. But Biden is old school, so I'm doubtful he would choose Warren
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:07 PM
Mar 2020

Although I think she would be a great choice-- for many reasons. She would be in a great position to become the next President.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Green Line

(1,123 posts)
27. We have a Republican governor, remember Scott Brown. She has to stay in the Senate.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:15 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
34. Senate vacancies in Massachussetts are filled by special elections
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:21 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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budkin

(6,703 posts)
32. Yes please
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 03:19 PM
Mar 2020

Pick her Joe.

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Goodheart

(5,321 posts)
41. Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes!
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 05:53 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
42. I'd like to see it, but would also like to see Stacey Abrams (nt)
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 06:09 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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