The MSM is ignoring Sanders big California win

[edhopper]

Disclaimer, I am not committed to Joe or Bernie, but this is Bullshit!

Yes Biden had a great night, but Bernie won the largest State with the most delegates and the Media is acting like he didn't win shit yesterday.

It's a disgusting show of bias.

Edit, I am not knocking Biden or his great showing yesterday, this is about the Press not giving attention to Sander's wins as well.

Some Biden supporters think this is an anti-Biden post, it is not. If they show the same bias if it id Trump/Biden and give Trump the headlines, you will not be so dismissive.

[evertonfc]

1. No. It's just not surprising

Sanders winning 10 states including Massachusetts and Texas is big. Sanders was always going to win Cali. Joe actually overperfromed there. It's not a story.

[Darwin2019]

5. If all the votes were cast on Tuesday Joe B would have won Calf

Bernie got a lot of the early vote before Joe's rebirth in SC

[democrattotheend]

8. I don't see why Bernie winning California was ever a given

He lost it by 8 points in 2016. And I was always skeptical of him being so heavily favored in Texas.

Massachusetts I agree was a surprise, but it's likely Bernie split the progressive vote with Warren there. And yes, I know Bloomberg took votes from Biden in other states, but he was less of a factor in New England than other places.

[uponit7771]

37. Polling showed it was a given

[democrattotheend]

38. Didn't some polls show him winning it in 2016 also?

I seem to remember the polls there being a lot closer than the race actually was, with a few polls showing him ahead.

[NurseJackie]

2. Aw.

[edhopper]

16. As I said

I am neither pro-Bernie or pro-Biden.

But how will you feel when the press does this for Trump over Biden.

I do not think it's okay.

[NurseJackie]

24. Sanders is not being ignored. Stop it.

[we can do it]

45. Can ya stop with this? It's 54% in.

[33taw]

3. Are the results in? I could only find 54% counted.

[edhopper]

15. here

https://www.latimes.com/projects/2020-california-primaries-live-results/

[33taw]

20. Thanks, it looks pretty close to the delegate distribution I saw last night.

It probably depends on where Mike Bloomberg ends up in terms of percentage.

[unc70]

32. That is precincts with partial reporting

Many of those precincts are incomplete. The 54% is the percentage of the expected total vote, once all the mailed ballots are counted.

[honest.abe]

4. Perhaps because its bogus.

Apparently Biden won the same day voting. Sanders is coming out on top simply because of early voting much of which was by voters who now wish they had their vote back.

[Hav]

6. Oh just stop

Yes, he'll get a good amount of delegates from CA but he was expected to win big in CA and he also lost states many thought he'd win easily. The big story were Biden's surprisingly strong results in almost all the states. That is making news, of course. BS result in CA was rather one example among many states where he underperformed.

[still_one]

12. He had about 30-35% of the vote in California, and if Bloomberg wasn't in the race, Biden would have

tied or perhaps won California

The way delegates are allocated, and the fact that Biden had 5 or 6 states which exceeded 50% or more, adds a lot of delegates into the Biden column, and why when the counts are all in, in spite of the large number of delegates California offers, Biden will come out with 50 or 60 more delegates in all the Super Tuesday races.

The process continues with more primaries next Tuesday

[Hav]

19. Without Bloomberg,

I'm pretty sure Biden not only wins CA but you could then also add Texas and TN to the decisive Biden wins with 50%+ results.
BS actually has to be happy with what he got but it was definitely not a big win for him that the media missed.

[still_one]

25. Exactly, 30-35% of the vote for California is not a huge win, but a win nevertheless, and definitely

a split of delegates

[W_HAMILTON]

7. Oh please.

California's results came late into the night, after most of the states had already been called. That was why they were talking so much about Biden's shocking performance for most of last night.

As far as I can tell, California's final results will not be known for some time, and even once the results are final, projections are that Biden will have won a majority of the delegates from Super Tuesday regardless.

Given all that, why should the media spend more time praising Sanders for his win in California?

Answer me this: who was the big winner from Super Tuesday?

[edhopper]

17. 90% currently in

I I still only see, big night for Joe headlines.

When they favor Trump over Biden like this, will you be so blase.

[W_HAMILTON]

27. Other people have pointed out the problems in that reporting number...

...i.e., that it most likely doesn't reflect the outstanding vote still remaining, or else that means there was a huge decline in voter turnout in California that was not seen anywhere else.

And if Trump were to win the most electors on election night, no one will be touting Biden's win in California either.

[Hav]

29. There is no mystery

It wasn't a big win when he underperformed. Biden wasn't even viable in some of the last polls.
It's the difference between expectations and reality that has influence on the narrative.

[TwilightZone]

33. False.

See my response below. The correct figure is 54%. The 90% figure is being misinterpreted, intentionally by some.

[we can do it]

44. Can ya stop with this? It's 54% in.

[still_one]

9. If you understand how delegates are allocated, it isn't a big win. In fact, if Bloomberg wasn't in

the race, Biden would have tied or exceeded Sanders in California:

Sanders 33.6%

Biden 24.9%

Bloomberg 14.3%

Warren 12.0%

The fact is, except in a couple of states, Sanders was unable to exceed 30-35%, while in 5 or 6 states Biden exceeded 50%. That is a big deal in terms of delegates, and why Biden will end up with about 50 to 60 delegates more when all the counts are in.

The MSM isn't ignoring that Sanders won California, they are realistically portraying that he only captured 30 to 35% of the vote there

It isn't winner take all, like the republicans run their primaries

By any standard, Super Tuesday was a loss for Sanders

What happens in the subsequent primaries remains to be seen

[onenote]

10. Care to tell me how big Bernie's win was?

Given that almost half (or maybe even more than half) of the votes haven't be counted and reported yet?

[edhopper]

18. 90% currently in

https://www.latimes.com/projects/2020-california-primaries-live-results/

[TwilightZone]

34. False. See below.

[unc70]

35. No, 54% in

90% of precincts have reported some results, often early voting.

[onenote]

41. Wrong.

As others have suggested,California has a particularly quirky process for receiving, tabulating and reporting votes, largely due to its heavy reliance on mail in ballots and its acceptance of ballots received after election day. When it is reported that X percent of precincts have reported, all it means is that x percent of precincts have "partially" reported. See https://electionresults.sos.ca.gov/returns/status

Given that only 3 million votes have been tabulated so far and 5.1 votes were cast in the 2016 Democratic primary and given further that turnout has been up in virtually all other primaries, there probably are well over 2 million votes left to be counted. Who will get what percentage of those as yet to be counted votes? I don't have any idea. Exit polls of same day voting aren't particularly helpful in measuring mail in ballots.

[we can do it]

43. Can ya stop with this? It's 54% in.

[PubliusEnigma]

11. Even with CA, Bernie still won less delegates.

That's why CA is not big news.

[Jarqui]

13. The problem with CA counting was stated well before the primary

"Don't be surprised if we don't get CA results till days or WEEKS after the election."
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287608597

The delegate counts for as much as they seem to know are up
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/democratic_delegate_count.html

[beachbumbob]

14. see now, bernie had a huge 20+ lead in all the polls right in California?

what was the huge margin of victory? 9%. How much did sanders spend in California? How much did biden?

this was anything but a "huge victory" for sanders.

Now let talk about a huge victory you need to look at Virginia's results. Thats the definition of H U G E

[dansolo]

21. I think Sanders only getting 51% in VT is a much bigger story

Why isn't the media talking about that?

[Magoo48]

22. Corporate media supports the corporate friendly candidate. No mystery here.

[BeckyDem]

23. Always follow the money. Bernie respresents UNIONS participation.

The media owners want nothing to do with that. Vote for Bernie, he will fight for you and your children.

[tarheelsunc]

48. He's supposedly been "fighting" for us for decades...

yet has little to nothing to show for it. No thanks. I think I'll go to the experienced politician who actually has a record of getting things done.

[honest.abe]

26. The MSM is focusing on the most incredible political comeback in history.

Yeah, that's odd.

[edhopper]

28. I don't think it was a comeback at all

Iowa and Nevada were bullshit, and NH is Bernie's neighbor.
Always knew Joe would have a strong showing yesterday.
But he did better than expectations, and should be congratulated for it.

[honest.abe]

30. The polling prior to SC was all Sanders.

Many were predicting Sanders to have a 200-300 delegate lead after ST. Most were thinking Biden was dead in the water and only Bloomberg could save us. That all remarkably and dramatically changed in the matter of 3 days. The most incredible comeback in the history of politics.

[Vivienne235729]

40. +1000

[TwilightZone]

31. It's not official and they're only at 54% of expected vote.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287630979

Do you really think they should make it official with half the vote in and two days' worth of mail-in ballots yet to be received, much less counted?

[JCMach1]

36. Not really... Sanders underperformed everywhere

Just the reality of it...

[Walleye]

39. Complaining about media bias doesn't win elections.

[helpisontheway]

42. Because he is still behind when he should have been way ahead. Nt

[tandem5]

46. I'm a Californian and I know it takes a long time for the votes to come in.

The percent reporting can show 100% while there can still be hundreds of thousands of ballots left to be counted. This is all about delegate allocation and the margin of victory for Sanders is still very much up in the air.

[tarheelsunc]

47. That should be expected...

when the other guy notches SEVERAL major upset victories in states he didn't even campaign in whatsoever. Biden significantly overperformed all expectations in almost every state, so naturally that is going to be the highlight. Biden still clearly earned more delegates even with California's huge haul included.