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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 12:58 PM Mar 2020

Asking without rancor. What if (some) Sanders delegates disrupt the Convention like last time?

They audibly booed several speakers. In such a setting silent disapproval is the norm.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Asking without rancor. What if (some) Sanders delegates disrupt the Convention like last time? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2020 OP
Then the convention will proceed to nominate a candidate jberryhill Mar 2020 #1
I never forgave Teddy for kneecappping Jimmy Carter comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #17
Neither did I jberryhill Mar 2020 #24
It will be up to folks like AOC and Tlaib to prevent that AGeddy Mar 2020 #2
I have no confidence in AOC. squirecam Mar 2020 #29
She said yesterday she is "Vote Blue No Matter Who" and would get behind Biden if he wins nom. AGeddy Mar 2020 #30
I'm hoping his campaign anticipates that this time democrattotheend Mar 2020 #3
I see it a little differently. LisaM Mar 2020 #28
Biden needs a majority going in. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #4
One good aspect of just having 2 major candidates left is that one should have a clear majority pampango Mar 2020 #19
Agreed. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #20
Don't care if they do. Joe looks better if they do. LakeArenal Mar 2020 #5
If sanders can't control his chosen delegates...how can he be expected to manage Fresh_Start Mar 2020 #6
Right? SunSeeker Mar 2020 #11
Joe will take them behind the barn. n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #7
LOL onetexan Mar 2020 #21
Jill and Symone can chuck them out on their asses. Walleye Mar 2020 #8
That booing of people like John Lewis tore it for me. morillon Mar 2020 #9
It was dammed embarrassing Walleye Mar 2020 #14
yes, bunch petulant children onetexan Mar 2020 #22
Sanders will stand up to them this time and denounce their bad acts uponit7771 Mar 2020 #10
better yet, don't send them as delegates to the convention nt Fresh_Start Mar 2020 #13
Why do you think he would act differently this year? comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #18
I think every delegate should sign some sort of "good behavior pledge". honest.abe Mar 2020 #12
👍 uponit7771 Mar 2020 #15
And no silly tape on their mouths Walleye Mar 2020 #16
Yep.. that needs to be in the pledge. honest.abe Mar 2020 #25
It was so ridiculous for them to have claimed that they were being silenced. StevieM Mar 2020 #26
Probably gave them too much influence. honest.abe Mar 2020 #27
IF?? nini Mar 2020 #23
Not if. drray23 Mar 2020 #31
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
1. Then the convention will proceed to nominate a candidate
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:00 PM
Mar 2020

Hey, Ted Kennedy shit right on Jimmy Carter in 1980. The world moves on.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

comradebillyboy

(10,147 posts)
17. I never forgave Teddy for kneecappping Jimmy Carter
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:50 PM
Mar 2020

in 1980.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
24. Neither did I
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:21 PM
Mar 2020

And no, it was not "payback" for the "whip his ass" comment, which was an unexceptional phrase to use in reference to winning a competition.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AGeddy

(509 posts)
2. It will be up to folks like AOC and Tlaib to prevent that
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:00 PM
Mar 2020

I have confidence in AOC in that regard.

Not so much in Tlaib.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

squirecam

(2,706 posts)
29. I have no confidence in AOC.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:52 PM
Mar 2020

She said she doesn’t want Biden in the same party as her.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AGeddy

(509 posts)
30. She said yesterday she is "Vote Blue No Matter Who" and would get behind Biden if he wins nom.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:56 PM
Mar 2020

Tlaib was still attacking Biden yesterday.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
3. I'm hoping his campaign anticipates that this time
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:00 PM
Mar 2020

And does more screening to try to prevent it. But I am torn about this, because I like that he gave ordinary people the opportunity to be delegates instead of just high dollar fundraisers and elected officials. On other campaigns I volunteered for, it was frustrating to volunteer so many hours but see big money rewarded with access to the candidates and tickets to the convention while volunteers rarely got similar perks. So I like that Bernie rewarded volunteers with delegate slots, but I'm hoping that he can find a way to do that without choosing people who are likely to be disruptive.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LisaM

(27,810 posts)
28. I see it a little differently.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:37 PM
Mar 2020

I think he allowed people who weren't really Democrats to come in and disrupt our convention, while he smirked on the sidelines.

It wasn't just at the convention. When the pundits were outside afterwards, there was the Bernie crowd, booing and waving signs and generally making a mockery of the whole proceeding, when so many of us wanted to celebrate our woman nominee.

Of course, all they seemed to care about was TPP. They had "NO TPP" taped over their mouths with duct tape, they had chants, and they had signs they'd wave behind the newscasters at night that all said "NO TPP". They did get their wish on that, so you'd think they'd all be happy now, mission accomplished, as it were.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
4. Biden needs a majority going in.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:00 PM
Mar 2020

It would further help if his win prior to the convention is emphatic.

If the win is a clear majority and there is no doubt Biden is the winner, I think people will be less likely to take the kind of silliness that happened in 2016 seriously. That's not to say that it won't happen. I just think most people will have little or no tolerance for it. It won't get as much attention, there won't be as much drama, and so on.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pampango

(24,692 posts)
19. One good aspect of just having 2 major candidates left is that one should have a clear majority
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:02 PM
Mar 2020

of the delegates by the time of the convention. The hypothetical scenario of having a plurality but not a majority that was discussed here a week ago, seems much less likely now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
20. Agreed.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:14 PM
Mar 2020

Especially the hypothetical that had one candidate coming in with 45%+ of the delegates and a 10%+ lead. The math didn't really work even then, but it's impossible now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
5. Don't care if they do. Joe looks better if they do.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:00 PM
Mar 2020

Sanders goes down three more points

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
6. If sanders can't control his chosen delegates...how can he be expected to manage
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:03 PM
Mar 2020

a government?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
11. Right?
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:15 PM
Mar 2020

And Sanders' choice of campaign staff shows some really poor judgment on his part.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
7. Joe will take them behind the barn. n/t
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:03 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Walleye

(31,017 posts)
8. Jill and Symone can chuck them out on their asses.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:11 PM
Mar 2020

It could never be as bad as Chicago in 1968

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

morillon

(1,185 posts)
9. That booing of people like John Lewis tore it for me.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:12 PM
Mar 2020

Just no excuse for that.

What motivation does Sanders have for keeping his delegates to some level of decorum this time?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Walleye

(31,017 posts)
14. It was dammed embarrassing
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:18 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

onetexan

(13,041 posts)
22. yes, bunch petulant children
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:17 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
10. Sanders will stand up to them this time and denounce their bad acts
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:15 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
13. better yet, don't send them as delegates to the convention nt
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:16 PM
Mar 2020

nt

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

comradebillyboy

(10,147 posts)
18. Why do you think he would act differently this year?
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:53 PM
Mar 2020

Look at the people he surrounds himself with.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
12. I think every delegate should sign some sort of "good behavior pledge".
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:15 PM
Mar 2020

No booing, hissing, shouting, negative signs or displays, etc. If they violate any aspect of the pledge they are expelled from the convention.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Walleye

(31,017 posts)
16. And no silly tape on their mouths
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 01:19 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
25. Yep.. that needs to be in the pledge.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:24 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
26. It was so ridiculous for them to have claimed that they were being silenced.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:33 PM
Mar 2020

They were given extraordinary influence over a convention to nominate a candidate who had defeated their candidate. Bernie was treated with the utmost of respect. The party chair was forced to resign over a bunch of nonsense that Vladimir Putin had put out and the silly claim that the DNC was shown conspiring against Bernie.

I remember thinking at the time that if Hillary had behaved this way in 2008 people would have gone ballistic on her. Some people didn't even want her to speak in prime time. He delegates were screamed at in the streets to take off their Hillary t-shirts. She was not supposed to be recognized as a prominent figure in her own right, other than her support for Obama.

And these Bernie delegates were anything but silent. They booed speakers, they condemned Warren as she spoke, and they tried to interrupt Hillary at her acceptance speech. Fortunately the campaign team that he media now tells us was incompetent was on top of it. Whenever too many Sanders people started shouting or chanting, the Clinton delegates started cheering "Hillary." There were actually a couple of times when it was clearly not a necessary point in the speech to be suddenly cheering her name, but they had to do it in order to drown out the disrupters.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
27. Probably gave them too much influence.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:35 PM
Mar 2020

Hope we don't make the same mistake this year.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

nini

(16,672 posts)
23. IF??
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 02:18 PM
Mar 2020

I guarantee you they're going to do that and cause as much havoc as possible.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

drray23

(7,627 posts)
31. Not if.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 03:15 PM
Mar 2020

It will happen for sure.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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