Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumI can't tell you how many times I have seen Warren's "heritage" brought up
not here, but on other sites and out in the real world.
It was complete bullshit, but it worked. Too many unthinking Americans felt it disqualified her.
This is what we are up against. And it works.
It worked on Gore, it worked on Kerry, it almost worked on Obama, it worked on Hillary.
Come up with a false attack and let the media keep going back to it.
Expect it in spades from Trump on Biden or Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
And considering all the real scandals on the right, it is outrageous that these faux scandals have so much traction. It is like if a candidate is squeaky clean, they have to find something to prove they aren't so "perfect". I think republicans resent opponents with principles.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
edhopper
(33,648 posts)that was about how the NY Times and the Networks covered her.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
PatSeg
(47,678 posts)but it is the media's gullibility that makes it work. They just keep repeating the lies until it becomes accepted as facts to a large chunk of the population.
Admittedly, Bill Clinton was no saint, but republicans went after him for years before they finally found a real scandal. They can't stand for a Democrat to be in power.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Moderateguy
(945 posts)will not have everything and the kitchen sink thrown at them in the general. Some of it, unfortunately, will stick. It is just necessary to GOTV. We need to vote in numbers so large that smears, voter disenfranchisement and foreign ratfu##ing do not stand a chance.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
edhopper
(33,648 posts)it says; We will win, but they cheat and fix the elections so much that we have to win by a larger amount than the cheating can take from us.
It would be like the Superbowl if one team was awarded a touchdown before the game.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(16,998 posts)of the socialism smear, but that would mute the powerful ex-presidents like Obama and Clinton who are very artful and intelligent campaigners. Imagine those two having to prop up fabricated socialism ideations after both have had successful records that they could discuss.
But, yes, the false attacks will be flying no matter who it is.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,505 posts)Obama demolished McCain, so I'm not sure what your standard is for "almost worked". McCain had a small lead for about a week in September. Obama was ahead the rest of the time and often by double digits.
The impact of the birther nonsense is often overblown. It got a lot of media attention, but I don't think most rational voters ever took it seriously. The McCain camp was having so little impact with that and other false nonsense that they pulled Palin out of a hat.
But her e-mails, of course, is a different story, both here and elsewhere.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
edhopper
(33,648 posts)as opposed to the other examples generated by the GOP campaigns.
And we know Trump will do this in spades.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, speaking at a presidential forum on Native American issues on Monday (8/13/2018), offered a direct, public apology for the harm she caused with her past claims of Native American ancestry and pledged to uplift Native people as president.
Like anyone whos being honest with themselves, I know that I have made mistakes, said Ms. Warren, who was met with a standing ovation when she took the stage. I am sorry for harm I have caused. I have listened and I have learned a lot, and I am grateful for the many conversations that weve had together.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/19/us/politics/elizabeth-warren-native-american.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
edhopper
(33,648 posts)the fact is it was never a big deal, she explained it but Trump kept it going. And the media lapped it up.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided