Mehdi Hasan: Biden Wouldn't Survive A One-On-One Debate With Bernie Sanders

[Uncle Joe]

MSNBC: Mehdi Hasan talks to Chris Hayes about voter turnout on Super Tuesday and where the Joe Biden versus Bernie Sanders debate stands after the Super Tuesday.

"He's got so much baggage and this idea that he's just got a stammer, he spent much of February falsely claiming that he got arrested in South Africa trying to see Nelson Mandela," Hasan said of Biden.

"You're going to see attack ads like we've never seen before hitting Biden on his record and he may still win but I'd like the Democrats to at least hold him to account for some of that stuff now," Hasan said. "There's one more debate in a couple of weeks for Bernie it's coming a little too late after Michigan. He needs that debate now because I actually think Biden would suffer hugely in a one-on-one debate where he can't hide behind other candidates. He flags in debates when there is 10 people on the stage. I don't think he can survive a two-hour debate with Bernie one-on-one."

[frazzled]

2. Because he'd get knocked over by all that arm waving?

Or would he pass out after hearing the word “billionaire” again in the seventh round?

[LiberalFighter]

92. Good one :)

[Demsrule86]

96. OMG...you almost ruined my laptop...

Damn I need to aim better with my coffee...then I can get a new one and tell hubs this POS is broken.

[ehrnst]

98. Bravo!!!

[we can do it]

110. And poked in eye by wagging finger.

[PatSeg]

112. Do you remember in an early debate,

where Biden was talking and Sanders was to his left - Joe briefly glanced toward to Bernie and said, "Bernie, quit waving at me". It was funny, because the camera didn't capture Bernie, but everyone knew what he was talking about.

[jimfields33]

127. Funny. Seriously, if Joe would slow down and think before he speaks,

He could survive. But he’s a very fast talker and jumbles words and phrases at time.

[Gothmog]

136. Sanders is a horrible debater

He is limited to repeating parts of his stump speech and never responds to question asked

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

3. Excellent post!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[brooklynite]

4. Is there some relevance to his opinion?

[morillon]

5. He's a Bernie stan, right? n/t

[squirecam]

6. Everyone has one

Even when they are absurd and wrong.

[FreepFryer]

7. "Wouldn't survive" is just more of the same dark shit that alienated Bernie from the base. nt

[Thekaspervote]

8. sanders supporters say they are the ones that are criticized?

So more divisive posts... nice

[msongs]

9. joe probably has experience with bullies nt

[NYMinute]

10. bwaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Mehdi Hasan is an idiot.






Joe/Kamala or Biden/Harris 2020!!
Either way they are stronger together & can't be bought!!!
Jump on the Biden Bandwagon & abandon the revolution!!

[dubyadiprecession]

78. You mocking the other posters message is priceless!

[NYMinute]

80. No mocking at all

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery donchano?

[dubyadiprecession]

83. No, I liked it.

There is no need to defend what you did.

[Gothmog]

137. I also like it

[grantcart]

81. And the cheerleading devotees are unlikely to get it lol

[greatauntoftriplets]

106. I had to double check to make sure my eyes weren't deceiving me.

[MineralMan]

149. Oh, I got it in a New York minute!

[PatSeg]

115. When I first saw that

I thought you were someone else! That is really funny. I can't begin to tell you how much it has annoyed me for the past few weeks. Very quirky and clever.

[ucrdem]

11. Wow, that's some sour grapes.

But go ahead and lower expectations for Joe, Mehdi Hasan, as will add to the pleasure !

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. There is one candidate who has the most annoying surrogates.

[DrToast]

13. Not gonna lie

I’m a bit nervous to see how Biden handles a full debate one on one.

[Uncle Joe]

15. I believe it would be most revealing,

unfortunately we had nothing close to that to date.

[ucrdem]

17. If Gabbard is there Joe can leave the wet work to her.

But that's neither here nor there. We won't see anything we haven't seen already. Nothing will change because the die is already cast.

[DarthDem]

66. I agree, but on Gabbard

Does she get on the debate stage now because she won two delegates? I've seen conflicting reports.

[LiberalFighter]

93. Nope! At least I haven't heard anything about DNC lowering the standards that low.

[DarthDem]

144. Oh, good

Enough of that, already

[TexasTowelie]

14. Sour grapes. nt

[Green Line]

16. I'm so exhausted by the Bernie Bros

MSNBC is full out anti Biden

[Uncle Joe]

19. So believing that Bernie would dominate Biden in a debate makes one a bro now and

MSNBC is anti-Biden!?

This is the same network that compared Bernie supporters to the corona virus or Nazi brown shirts and that Bernie would cheer if Chris Matthews were executed in Central Park.

Chris Hayes is of one the very few members from that corporate media conglomerate that comes remotely close to giving Bernie fair coverage.

[msongs]

22. bernie was on "that corporate media conglomerate" yesterday. he seems to not have a problem with it

[Uncle Joe]

27. There are only five corporate media conglomerates that control 90+%

of everything the American see see on T.V. hear on the radio or read in publications.

Believing that this incestuous monopolization of information is dysfunctional to our nation's best interests does not preclude needing to appear on them if one wants to run for President just to reach the people, particularly older people as they still get most of their information from one way, top down semi-hypnotic T.V.

[TexasTowelie]

62. Whining about corporate media conglomerates

is so 2000s (the decade).

[LiberalFighter]

94. It use to be just 3 corporate conglomerates back in the 60's.

[Demsrule86]

97. Bernie is not a great debater and with only two people...he won't be able to give his stump

speech instead of answering questions...and a stammer is difficult during a debate...especially with a large field. Two people is more manageable. I think Biden will do just fine. We are looking for a president not a prom king or a debate king...

[PatSeg]

119. That drives me nuts about Bernie

Often when he is asked a question, he deflects and then goes into stump speech mode, much like a programmed android. As if anyone on the planet hasn't heard it many times before.

[radius777]

145. The media left Biden for dead,

he came back despite the narrative that he was dead and broke.

The more outspoken elements of Bernie's base - especially online - are the ones who frame the debate in militant hard-left terms ('hang the rich', etc.), thus media figures/journalists merely observe and react to this in kind.

[redstateblues]

24. When it started looking like Biden was gonna wrap it up

MSNBC went into full bashing mode

[Green Line]

31. Yes they did

[Steelrolled]

53. MSNBC is infotainment - that is truth

They want a primary contest.

And frankly, they want a Trump victory. Don't be fooled.

I've stopped watching (aka supporting) cable news a few years ago.

[LiberalFighter]

95. Really! So you don't watch anything at all?

[Steelrolled]

157. No cable news

by which I mean MSNBC, CNN, Fox New.

I have a streaming service where I had to choose which cable channels I wanted, and I got none of them, and never looked back.

There are various free streaming news channels I like including France 24, DW, CBS 24, AlJazeera.

[PatSeg]

117. MSNBC wants a Trump victory?

That is absolutely absurd. It is pretty obvious that you don't watch it.

[George II]

147. If you stopped watching them a few years ago, how do you know they want trump to win?

[Steelrolled]

156. Because their business model hasn't changed.

Their business is to play commercials to viewers, the more views, the more money they make. MSNBC struggled during the Obama administration. Look at their ratings since Trump was selected. The impeachment was very good to them.

I am not saying the on-air "personalities" want Trump to win, but the company does.

[OnDoutside]

60. +1 It was clear that they didn't get their desired outcome.

[Demsrule86]

99. I thought Chris Hayes was really angry and not particularly polite to Biden supporters...and I like

Warren but every single host devoted most of their show to her last night. Some were clearly in mourning...the idea that somehow she was robbed is pernicious and not true. I supported Biden because I thought he could win the blue wall states and I have always like the guy.

[OnDoutside]

102. I'd agree with you on that, 100%

[Scurrilous]

18. All Biden would have to do is bring a list of Bernie's promises & trot them out one by one asking -

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'How do you intend to pass this through Congress?'

Then sit back and laugh w/ the audience. For hours.

[AncientGeezer]

40. Pass...or pay....he can't do either.

[Scurrilous]

51. I would have added pay but we want to get Joe home at a decent time.

[AncientGeezer]

139. Well played

[treestar]

68. +1 billion

[George II]

130. +1 billionaire

[Scurrilous]

146. + 59 more

[still_one]

20. How interesting that this is coming from Mehdi Hassan who has previously characterized non-Muslims

as immoral people who are cattle

https://www.thewrap.com/al-jazeera-host-mehdi-hasan-apologizes-for-past-criticisms-of-non-believers/

The entire Sanders campaign has been has been one of dividing Democrats, as was evidenced by his hiring of Jill Stein supporter Briahana Joy Gray, and Hillary hating David Sirota and Nina Turner

I would like to know if Mr. Hassan will vote for the Democratic nominee if it isn't Sanders, or will he do a Briahana Joy Gray who was so proud to vote for Jill Stein, and has no regrets doing so

[Uncle Joe]

23. Mehdi Hassan

Mehdi Raza Hasan (born July 1979)[2][3][4] is a British political journalist, broadcaster and author.

Hasan is the co-author of a biography of Ed Miliband and was formerly the political editor of the UK version of The Huffington Post.[5] He is the presenter of the Al Jazeera English shows: The Café, Head to Head and UpFront.[6]

In 2015, Hasan moved to Washington, D.C. to work full-time for Al Jazeera on UpFront[7] and hosts the Deconstructed podcast on the investigative journal The Intercept.

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Controversy

During a sermon delivered in 2009,[46] quoting a verse of the Quran, Hasan said to an audience:

The kuffar, the disbelievers, the atheists who remain deaf and stubborn to the teachings of Islam, the rational message of the Koran; they are described in the Koran as "a people of no intelligence", Allah describes them as not of no morality, not as people of no belief – people of "no intelligence" – because they're incapable of the intellectual effort it requires to shake off those blind prejudices, to shake off those easy assumptions about this world, about the existence of God. In this respect, the Koran describes the atheists as "cattle", as cattle of those who grow the crops and do not stop and wonder about this world.[47]

In response to criticism over the use of the term "cattle" to describe non-believers, Hasan wrote in his New Statesman blog: "The Quranic phrase 'people of no intelligence' simply and narrowly refers to the fact that Muslims regard their views on God as the only intellectually tenable position, just as atheists (like Richard Dawkins or Sam Harris) regard believers as fundamentally irrational and, even, mentally deficient."[48] Hasan returned to this issue in August 2012 following criticism from the columnist Peter Hitchens.[47] Hasan wrote: "the entire 45-minute speech is primarily an attack on Muslim extremists who try and justify violence against non-Muslims on an 'ends justify the means' basis", but noted of his 2009 comments that his "phraseology was ill-judged, ill-advised and, even, inappropriate".[49]

Awards

In January 2014, Hasan was awarded the Services to Media award at the British Muslim Awards.[50] In 2017, he was named European Young Leader by the Brussels-based Friends of Europe think tank.[51]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehdi_Hasan

[still_one]

28. Go ahead, make excuses for him. Just his association with Glen Greenwald's Intercept speaks volumes

yet alone his past bigoted and anti-gay comments

No surprise that Jill Stein supporter Briahna Joy Gray, who is part of the Sanders campaign, was also associated with the Intercept. You know the Intercept, which didn't protect Reality Winner's identity, and with the help of Greenwald, left Snowden out to dry

I really trust a candidate who hires people like that as part of his campaign

[Uncle Joe]

35. You want to have it both ways,

be pissed at people that didn't vote for the Democratic ticket in 2016 and then criticize political leaders that bring them into the Democratic party in 2020.

[still_one]

38. Are kidding me? This isn't about bringing "people into the Democratic party". Gray has no regrets

for voting for Jill Stein, and says she would do it again.

Their intentions are not about being part of the Democratic party, but declaring war against the Democratic party

Great strategy for winning primaries and general elections

There is a reason why Super Tuesday was a huge failure for the Sanders campaign, and in case anyone noticed, if it wasn't for Bloomberg, all numbers indicate that Biden would have won or tied Sanders in California

[Uncle Joe]

44. If Bernie is the Democratic nominee for President, Gray will be voting for a

Democratic President.

Super Tuesday was a disappointment to Bernie because a moment was created at the last moment.

Clyburn endorsed Biden on the eve of South Carolina, Biden wins that state, which the corporate media conglomerates took off and ran the narrative with, then suddenly every moderate candidate; Beto, Klobuchar, Buttigieg and Bloomberg dropped out and endorsed Biden all at the last minute.

However as AOC astutely observed in an interview that created a moment, it did not a create a movement.

All the while Biden had been saved by not having to endure a one on one debate.

[still_one]

48. We obviously disagree. I hope your assessment is right about Gray, but I remains skeptical since

she has gone out of her way to express no regrets about voting for Jill Stein

As for me, I will vote for the Democratic nominee without hesitation, whether it be Bernie or Biden

[TexasTowelie]

54. And if Bernie isn't the Democratic nominee for President who will Gray be voting for?

I don't consider her to be a Democrat since she already refused to vote for a Democrat in the 2016 general election.

[Demsrule86]

103. Bernie is not going to be the nominee. He has not path without AA voters...this the truth.

and if you look at Florida and others states...he is ceding the south which has many delegates...it is very clear that Joe Biden will be the nominee. It was a slap in the face to put non-Democrats who voted for Stein in his campaign to Democrats...it just was. And when his failed campaign is dissected, it will be clear that in many ways Sanders caused his own demise with some very foolish actions...not working on the AA vote, thinking he could divide moderates and win this way (don't think he had a plan for a two person race), putting non-Democrats in his campaign,allowing terrible behavior from some of his supporters without trying to reign them in,stabbing Warren in the back both with the script and with his behavior during the debate where he essentially called her a liar and the Rogan endorsement and his subsequent embrace of it...that was terrible for him and finally railing against Democrats and our party while trying to win votes from us.

[brutus smith]

121. Very well put Uncle Joe!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

153. AOC nailed that one!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[George II]

131. They've only been brought into the Democratic Party for a short time.....

....wonder what they'll be saying in late July?

[ehrnst]

109. Hasan has been on a twitter rampage against Biden. Hardly a neutral 'analyst" on the topic...

[MineralMan]

158. He's British? WTAF?

Could he be less relevant?

[William769]

21. Man, talk about the smell of desperation in the air.

Biden really has them scared.

[NurseJackie]

88. They are terrified. Their losses were CATASTROPHIC. The polling is HUMILIATING.

The entire campaign is in DISARRAY! The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. It's like a coop of headless chickens all bumping into each other. Totally uncoordinated. The campaign is in a state of PANIC. It's a MELTDOWN. They lack communication and leadership.

Honestly... all I'm trying to point out is that if their campaign is this fucked up in how they're dealing with this current crisis (ie: losing the primaries) can you imagine what a Sanders administration would be like when they tried to handle the unexpected??

The people a candidate chooses to run his (or her) campaign, and how well that campaign is run (whether it's effective and efficient and honest and with integrity) is a strong indicator of how the candidate will govern if elected.

I think it's pretty clear given what we've seen all last week... a Bernie Sanders administration would be a chaotic mess.

[William769]

90. And that's waht we are trying to fix right now.

[lunasun]

25. I thought there was 2 debates left . I know the next is before my state votes. So that is the last?

The primary debate can not be avoided.
Will the broadcasters fact check Biden if he exaggerates like the 150 million killed by gun violence comment to Sanders?
Hmmm we will see .
You know the media always comes out with “opinions “ after the debates too

Remember crazy trump the msm claimed in 16 won debates with Hillary etc.

To Biden’s advantage, if he wins the nomination, trump may not want to debate anyone at all.

Sanders, if he gets in, also can’t demand trump debate him I guess either
and the media of course will ignore how outrageous trump is for not participating in presidential debates but will cover his rallies

Gone now, but I bet Biden is glad he is not debating warren especially after those Bloomberg take downs she did but even before that I felt that way .

At least with Sanders he can always say words like Castro or scary socialism

[Uncle Joe]

32. With only two candidate in the debate Bernie would have much greater time to

criticize, respond, rebut and make his positions known.

The last debate was an absolute travesty, the "moderators" asked multiple candidates what they found wrong with Bernie's proposals but would not allow Bernie to rebut hardly any of it.

I believe it was on the issue of Medicare for All they asked every candidate on the stage except Bernie, despite him having his arm raised when another candidate just criticized him.

[Demsrule86]

104. Sanders doesn't answer the question...thus he will not have an easier time just the opposite...he

can't say his campaign speech over and over in a two person race.

[TexasTowelie]

125. Except every response Bernie makes eventually takes him back to repeating his stump speech.

We've already seen that played out for the past five years.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

155. Funny how that works!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[Kerrycrat]

26. Bernie tends not to actually answer the question put to him though

Does he? My impression is that he tends to shout about whatever he wants to talk about.

[still_one]

30. He also uses gestures frequently

[Uncle Joe]

36. "The fact of the matter is"

do not take a shot of tequila everytime Biden uses that phrase in a debate to buy time.

[still_one]

41. I watch the town halls. I don't watch the debates, because they do not adequately give time

for the candidates to present their views

[True Blue American]

50. Amen!

The silly questions asked by the Moderators make debates useless Gotcha questions to be used over and over.

[still_one]

52. and allowing disruptions by the audience during the debates is unacceptable in my opinion

[True Blue American]

55. In the Town Halls you can listen to

What they think and plan to do.

CNN is doing a much better job this year. Instead of repeating the same old tired arguments they are showing the many lies of Trump, disputing them.

There are a few good shows left on MSNBC but their stable is mighty thin. Reposting clips of other shows are stale.

[still_one]

58. I agree

[Gothmog]

160. sanders is a horrible debater

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Link to tweet

[Progressive2020]

29. Debate

I believe that the next debate is in Arizona on March 15th. It would be better to have a debate sooner then later, but that is the schedule. I think that we deserve a real two hour debate between the two candidates, Bernie and Joe, now that the field has narrowed. I think that there will be a big contrast between them, no matter who you like or do not like. Anyway, voters deserve a chance to hear from both candidates. Previous debates were divided between too many candidates. March 15th should be different, head-to-head between Bernie and Joe.

[still_one]

34. People know who the candidates are for better or worse. The only purpose of the debates at this

stage is for the media hoping to get "gotcha" or food fight between the candidates

Town Halls are far more informative

[Progressive2020]

37. Not Sure That I Agree

A lot of people do not follow politics too closely until races get towards the end. On Super Tuesday, exit polls showed that many people did not make up their minds until the last minute. Most people here on DU are political junkies who follow politics closely. There are a lot of people out there in America who do not follow races as closely.

And so far there has not been a real debate between two leading candidates. I think we deserve to hear from them and see them defend their positions. I would not mind more town halls either. Anyway, I think that a debate between Bernie and Joe would be helpful, especially for people who have not made up their minds yet.

[still_one]

43. I agree with some of your arguments, but the way debates a presented in this format is a joke

in my view.

Candidates are not given enough time to respond or rebuttal, and they shouldn't allow people in the audience to cheer, boo, applaud etc.

[Progressive2020]

47. OK

Maybe. Either way, we are getting a debate on March 15th. I would like to see more Town Halls also. This race has been a marathon with so many different candidates. I respect your criticism of debates, but I think a debate between two leading candidates is a different animal than one with 12 candidates on the stage.

Maybe I am old fashioned, but I like to see the two leading candidates go up against each other in a debate. Also, I have heard that Trump does not want to have ANY debates in the General Election. That is gutless, in my opinion. Trump is a coward and a liar. The people deserve to hear and see their candidates. But Trump mocks conventional politics.

[lunasun]

45. Yes an energy/climate change townhall would be great for undecideds and are important issues

for 2020
I’m assuming heath care will loom large in the debate

[Progressive2020]

49. Yes

A Climate Change Town Hall would be good. I think in the March 15th debate the key topic will be Health Care. We mostly know Bernie's position, but Joe will probably ask about how Bernie's plan would be funded, etc. Biden would have an opportunity to defend ACA/Obamacare. I would like to see both sides of that debated.

[True Blue American]

56. Both are at the top

Of the list and actually connected.

[Steelrolled]

57. I think a one-on-one debate will be useful.

The dynamics will be much different.

At this time Bernie needs it, and while I think Biden would be better to avoid it, the die is cast.

[treestar]

69. Exactly

there's no need for any of these "debates" at least as they are now carried out.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

33. He brought up the Iraq War and big money ties, but...

... I’m more concerned that Trump’s side will hammer Biden over his anti-privacy stances of the past.

https://www.cnet.com/news/joe-bidens-pro-riaa-pro-fbi-tech-voting-record/

Trump seems overly paranoid about it personally, so he shouldn’t have a problem bringing it up repeatedly. I also think the message would resonate with many voters who don’t like the idea (real or imaginary) of Uncle Sam spying on them.

[treestar]

70. Dump is not going to say anything intelligent

about anything. He'll just use personal attack.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

39. At this stage

Will it make a difference?

[Uncle Joe]

46. At this stage

it's more important than ever.

The candidates will have ample quality time to present their views, criticize, respond and rebut.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

152. THIS!!

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[comradebillyboy]

42. Well bless his little heart...

[democrattotheend]

59. I guess we'll see soon enough

Biden is still planning to show up for the next debate, I hope?

It's too bad Warren dropped out, because I think she would have wiped the floor with both of them.

[OnDoutside]

61. Lol. Holed Titanic shakes fist at iceberg.

[Kahuna7]

67. +1 nt

[honest.abe]

63. Sanders won't survive next week.

By the time this next debate happens this race will essentially be over.

[Gothmog]

64. LOL

Thank you for the laughs. I look forward to sanders explaining his magical voter revolution and how sanders will pay for his programs

Link to tweet

sanders is actually a very weak debater

[apcalc]

71. Few care.

[beachbumbob]

72. sure , whatever you say

[grossproffit]

73. Is Mehdi even able to vote in the United States?

[Mosby]

123. Hasan is anti-zionist, anti-choice, and a shia/Iran apologist who works for al-Jazeera.

Who cares what he thinks?

[grossproffit]

133. I'm sickened that CNN gives him so much airtime.

[BeyondGeography]

74. Biden has had numerous awful debate moments and look where he is

It hasn’t mattered.

He has also been a lot better the last few debates than he was last summer and fall.

Since he’s going to be the nominee, I hope he does his level best to prepare and keep that trend going.

[Demsrule86]

107. My favorite Warren supporter hits the nail on the head...I think he will do fine...he has a good

campaign behind him, good surrogates to help him...and Jim Clyburn as much as said he will kick some Biden ass if need be...I wonder who will be VP...I would choose Warren or Klobachar personally. Warren could heal the ticket. And Amy could help with the Mid West...states like Ohio...tough choice. Can we have co-Vice Presidents?

[BeyondGeography]

122. Much as I love Warren I don't see her as the best fit

Joe needs someone a little closer to him ideologically, that’s Amy. Put Warren on the ticket and Trump would have additional lines of attack that he wouldn’t have with Amy. Klobuchar showed me a lot this primary; I think they’d be a great ticket.

It’s a bit of a bummer for me because I think Warren and Biden would be the much better governing team. Biden cares about helping people just as much as she does and Warren would keep on him and everyone else who mattered constantly to make things happen in a way that Amy wouldn’t and couldn’t IMO.

As for healing, I’m not that worried. There are some lost causes out there who won’t be appeased no matter who Joe chooses. Warren will be a bigger player at the convention than at 2016 and that will help downsize the dead-enders significantly. Her comments last night with Rachel re Biden were revealing; she admires Joe’s decency (especially in my view after the way she was treated by Bernie World this campaign) and said “we both want the same things, we just come at it differently.” She will fight for him.

[Demsrule86]

134. I was very impressed with Warren. I watched Rachel last night. I don't disagree with any of your

points...and she will fight for him. She is after all Democrat and not driven by ego like some ! I think Warren could have her pick of cabinet positions...maybe time it so we can elect another Senator before she takes a position... both Joe Kennedy and Ed Markey are facing off and either could win her seat...but she is beloved in Mass...I was thinking that maybe the reason she lost her home state is people want her to stay in her position as Senator and continue to represent Mass. Maybe if we get lucky and take the Senate, she will become the Senate Majority leader...now that would be great.

[DarthDem]

143. +1

And I do think both Biden and Sen. Warren want to help people, too.

[Squinch]

75. Sigh. Must you?

[Kahuna7]

76. Mehdi is in for a rude awakening...

[Peacetrain]

79. Uh huh...ummm.. uh huh ..

[Demsrule86]

111. haha...true. The desperation is palpable...and I am ashamed to realize that some of my pleasure in

this is because of my anger at how Hillary was treated in the general...got to let this go...almost four years now.

[tavernier]

82. I guess everyone is forgetting how Joe put Paul Ryan away.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2012/10/joe-biden-wins-vice-presidential-debate

[greatauntoftriplets]

116. Thanks for posting this.

What a great moment.

[Happy Hoosier]

84. LOL.....

Okay, if they are gonna play that bullshit game, then two can do it.

Bernie voted for a collapse of the economic system and auto manufacturing in 2008. That's fact.

Let's whip out the tapes of Bernie's Soviet and Cuban apologetics.

And bring a calculator to the debate and hand it to Bernie since he so bad at math.

If they wanna wrestle, let's wrestle.

[MrsCoffee]

85. Would it be a glob of spittle or an errant finger wag that takes him out?

[Demsrule86]

113. Stop!!!!!!!! it is too early to laugh this hard...yeah I know it is 11:00 but that is early for me

these days...

[IluvPitties]

86. Bernie's done and this guy knows it.

[NurseJackie]

89. Of course they know it. They lived through the catastrophic voting. The know the polling...

Of course they know it. They lived through the catastrophic voting. The know the polling data for upcoming voting is TOTALLY HUMILIATING!

It's one of the Kubler-Ross stages, I'm sure of it, but I'm not sure which one. Denial? Anger? (I guess there can be two simultaneously.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model

[IluvPitties]

91. Anger.

[lark]

87. So, elect Sanders or we deserve drumpf?

How insulting and dumb and ignorant of the facts can one person be? We'll be seeing the 2 on stage very soon and I think Joe will more than hold his own These are the same people that helped put drumpf in office in 2016 and are trying to do the same again if we don't choose Bernie as our nominee.

[LiberalFighter]

100. Mehdi Hasa is nothing but a scumbag.

[ehrnst]

101. Sounds like a Hail Mary play...

[Demsrule86]

114. Hail Mary full of grace....yup.

[LiberalFighter]

105. And this idiot is an expert on politics and debates?

[ehrnst]

108. So you've kissed and made up with the "nefarious corporate-owned media" when they

invite an analyst that bashes Bernie's winning opponent on twitter to do it on camera?

[greatauntoftriplets]

118. How classless to mock someone's stammering.

drumpf does that, too.

[highplainsdem]

120. LOL!

[brutus smith]

124. Biden's campaign platform of "I'm not trump" won't be a winning strategy in the GE.

[HarlanPepper]

135. Ah looks like the new talking points have arrived from on high

[treestar]

150. Why ever not? We are sick of that Orange Menace

And all the drama he causes, any Democrat represents a return to normalcy. Some people will vote for the Democrat because they are Democrats and some will vote just to get rid of the Orange Asshole.

[rzemanfl]

126. NTSA. n/t

[Me.]

128. Is Hasan Doing One Of His All Too Familiar Rants Here?

so tiresome

[George II]

129. Everyone's entitled to their opinions, right or wrong.

[HarlanPepper]

132. Biden's much better in a one on one format

This dope, whoever he is, obviously has done zero research beyond this cycle on that subject. Starting to get desperate in the sanders camp.

[tavernier]

138. Joe teaching Paul Ryan a lesson in debate.

Sorry that I’m reposting this but it’s worth another look.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2012/10/joe-biden-wins-vice-presidential-debate

[oasis]

140. Biden has a growing delegate lead. No need for a useless debate.

[zackymilly]

141. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA nt

[zackymilly]

142. I believe Bernie is planning on a debate with Biden.

He's been seen trying to train a sparrow to land on his podium.

[MineralMan]

148. Who is Mehdi Hasan again?

Fill us in, please, Uncle Joe...

And, by the way, why Uncle Joe? I always think of Joe Biden as "Uncle Joe," but I don't know why you chose that name, actually.

[Hav]

154. My favorite exchange of him is about him

literally believing in the existence of winged horses on which his prophet flew to heaven and then getting butthurt about the deserved ridicule that followed.

[LakeArenal]

151. Sounds like a threat...

Will Bernie shout Joe to death.
Knock Joe out with a flailing arm?
Crush Joe with subtle wit?

[Gothmog]

159. sanders is a very weak debater

Link to tweet

[SiliconValley_Dem]

161. I'm getting pretty tired of Bernie and his crew

We need to hope there continues to be a great convergence on Biden as the choice for nominee so we can get down to the brutal business of kicking that fat orange lardass out of the White House.