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brooklynite

(94,489 posts)
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 08:13 AM Mar 2020

As Bernie Sanders Pushed for Closer Ties, Soviet Union Spotted Opportunity

New York Times

YAROSLAVL, Russia — The mayor of Burlington, Vt., wrote to a Soviet counterpart in a provincial city that he wanted the United States and the Soviet Union to “live together as friends.”

Unbeknown to him, his desire for friendship meshed with the efforts of Soviet officials in Moscow to “reveal American imperialism as the main source of the danger of war.”

That mayor was Bernie Sanders, and the story of his 1988 trip to the Soviet Union has been told before. But many of the details of Mr. Sanders’s Cold War diplomacy before and after that visit — and the Soviet effort to exploit Mr. Sanders’s antiwar agenda for their own propaganda purposes — have largely remained out of sight.

The New York Times examined 89 pages of letters, telegrams and internal Soviet government documents revealing in far greater detail the extent of Mr. Sanders’s personal effort to establish ties between his city and a country many Americans then still considered an enemy despite the reforms being initiated at the time under Mikhail S. Gorbachev, the Soviet general secretary.
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As Bernie Sanders Pushed for Closer Ties, Soviet Union Spotted Opportunity (Original Post) brooklynite Mar 2020 OP
I did not doubt there were ties in 2016. Tad Devine/Paul Manafort anyone? apcalc Mar 2020 #1
Ugh. nt LexVegas Mar 2020 #2
He was still right to do it. LaurenOlimina Mar 2020 #3
More than 'ideas' at stake. Powerful interests at play. empedocles Mar 2020 #5
Your statement is cryptic. Please expand. LaurenOlimina Mar 2020 #7
It seems kind of pointless attacking someone for something 32 years ago groundloop Mar 2020 #4
How about 32 days ago? empedocles Mar 2020 #6
...and something that wasn't even bad AT THE TIME! (n/t) thesquanderer Mar 2020 #8
 

apcalc

(4,463 posts)
1. I did not doubt there were ties in 2016. Tad Devine/Paul Manafort anyone?
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 08:16 AM
Mar 2020

At least at the start.

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LaurenOlimina

(1,165 posts)
3. He was still right to do it.
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 08:33 AM
Mar 2020

Sister cities reduced tensions and opened the Soviet Union up to western ideas. Like so many other things, in this idea that they would show up the West, the Soviets were wrong.

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empedocles

(15,751 posts)
5. More than 'ideas' at stake. Powerful interests at play.
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 09:09 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LaurenOlimina

(1,165 posts)
7. Your statement is cryptic. Please expand.
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 09:11 AM
Mar 2020
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Undecided
 

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
4. It seems kind of pointless attacking someone for something 32 years ago
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 08:35 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
6. How about 32 days ago?
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 09:09 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

thesquanderer

(11,982 posts)
8. ...and something that wasn't even bad AT THE TIME! (n/t)
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 11:33 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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