Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumThe DNC just made it mathematically impossible for Tulsi Gabbard to make the next debate
leaving Biden & Sanders one-on-oneFor a few days, Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii technically had a chance of making it back onto the debate stage.
But after the Democratic National Committee announced on Friday that candidates will need at least 20 percent of all of the delegates allocated so far to qualify, Gabbard will be on the outside looking in at the race's first one-on-one debate on March 15 between former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Bernie Sanders.
Even if Gabbard were to somehow secure all 352 of the delegates on the table on election night March 10 and nab the dozen on March 14 between Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands, she would still fail to break the 20 percent threshold.
The Friday news led to the retirement of the hyper-observant Twitter account dedicated to the televised debate qualifications, now going by the name "The Artist Formerly Known as Debate Tracker."
Link to tweet
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https://news.yahoo.com/dnc-just-made-mathematically-impossible-224307941.html
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RandySF
(59,767 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dhol82
(9,353 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DonaldsRump
(7,715 posts)Democratic Establishment = me and every other D voter
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msongs
(67,498 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,517 posts)She's irrelevant at this point. It's a two-person race.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IronLionZion
(45,644 posts)against the only woman still in the race
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zackymilly
(2,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(298,049 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IronLionZion
(45,644 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bucky
(54,094 posts)I assure you it has nothing to do with her being a woman. It has to do with her being a dissident within the party, who refused to vote to impeach the most crooked president in our history, who has warm ties to PM Modi of India and Pres Assad of Syria, and is a denier of Assad's human rights atrocities.
This is not about gender, race, or religious prejudice. It's about intolerance for those who would give political cover to human rights abusers.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tritsofme
(17,440 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Indykatie
(3,697 posts)I'd rather the DNC take whatever hits come from her exclusion than the hits they would have gotten from those like me pissed about her being on the debate stage.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yardwork
(61,785 posts)I'm a woman. Gabbard has no chance of winning the nomination at this stage and we don't need her in the debate. We have a presidency to win.
This isn't circle time in kindergarten where everybody gets a chance to share.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,510 posts)wanting to participate in the presidential debates, but was denied because he couldn't garner 15% in polling
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
patphil
(6,253 posts)One?!
She has marginally more validity for being on the stage for the next debate than I do.
Which is to say, NONE.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
question everything
(47,591 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
patphil
(6,253 posts)It's no longer just that you want to be there, you have to earn a place on the stage.
Right now there are only two candidates who have done that.
One of them will be the Democratic nominee for President.
It's their show now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jimfields33
(16,123 posts)One decent debate changed all that. I say let her debate. Whats the harm.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)That's the problem.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yardwork
(61,785 posts)We have elections to win.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BusyBeingBest
(8,059 posts)Biden. She will try to do to him what she did to Harris. What would be the point of allowing this to happen?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Still making me lol
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(298,049 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Moderateguy
(945 posts)We dont know why shes still in the race and what her actual agenda is... so the DNC should not give her national screen time
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
IronLionZion
(45,644 posts)I considered doing that, but too many would take it seriously.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Moderateguy
(945 posts)I might change it soon because people are taking it too seriously
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
IronLionZion
(45,644 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yardwork
(61,785 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IronLionZion
(45,644 posts)Here on DU anyway. Tell Bernie's people she's the one percent
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RDavisJ1
(52 posts)Tulsi has no viable path for the nomination at this point. What role would she play in the debate? What would she bring to it? Quite honestly, America needs to see the difference between Biden and Sanders as Sanders could be done that next Super Tuesday election. Having her on the stage helps no one, not even her.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TomCADem
(17,390 posts)Bernie supporters have been attacking Warren for not immediately swearing fealty to Bernie, but what about Tulsi Gabbard? Bernie has featured her as a speaker at his foundation's events. It is odd that Bernie can't convince her to support him when he has featured her in the past as a supporter.
How can Bernie have the skills to push through his agenda if he can't even convince his strongest allies to endorse him when their presidential ambitions fail?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(298,049 posts)a more dramatic moment?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sweetloukillbot
(11,156 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Las Vegas Mixx
(299 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Salviati
(6,009 posts)It's not a campaign, it's a grift.
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Cha
(298,049 posts)viciously attack Hillary, our historic Democratic nominee in the last election, I agree.
And, trump war room retweeting her tweet after her last debate..
Link to tweet
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LVZ
(937 posts)https://1-dot.com/radio/newsplus CNN MSNBC NPR CBC BBC
https://apnews.com/c9b93bfb34004616f04fd5fd1ae3709b
https://www.newsweek.com/tulsi-gabbard-impeachment-vote-democratic-primary-1479112
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Vivienne235729
(3,391 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hekate
(91,013 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
napi21
(45,806 posts)none of them would know.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Shemp Howard
(889 posts)Im not much of a Gabbard fan. My choices were Bernie, then Elizabeth, then Joe - in that order.
But the DNC changed the rules to let ex-Republican billionaire Bloomberg in. And now they are changing the rules to keep Gabbard out.
I really dont see the harm in letting her in. Its not like there will be 20 candidates crowding the stage. And having a woman of color debating along side two white men, I dont see why thats not a good thing.
As to the comment she has no viable path forward, I always thought the voters should be the ones who decided that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
tirebiter
(2,539 posts)Bloomberg took American Samoa
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Shemp Howard
(889 posts)Bloomberg took (bought actually) American Samoa after the debate in which the rules were changed to let him in. So the Samoa voters did not give him debate privileges. The DNC did.
And I say Bloomberg bought American Samoa because he had seven full-time staffers working there since January. Those staffers dont work for free.
And to be honest, I am frankly shocked that so few Democrats are bothered by how the DNC changed the rules to accommodate this ex-Republican opportunistic billionaire, a guy who thought stop-and-frisk was a great idea. I suppose money really does talk.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hav
(5,969 posts)like poll results and donations? If not, it's a needless discussion anyways. I also don't know whether this delegate rule was planned all along or whether they just came up with it now. The thresholds to participate got raised throughout the campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Shemp Howard
(889 posts)Gabbard qualifies under the current rules because she has won at least one delegate.
You do make a good point - the threshold to participate usually gets raised as time goes on. But nothing says that the threshold has to be raised. Its not like we still have a crowded field of 20 candidates.
I just find it very distasteful that the requirements were lowered to allow an opportunistic ex-Republican billionaire to debate. And now they will be raised solely to keep a Democrat woman of color out.
As a side note, I feel a bit like Im in the Twilight Zone. I dont even particularly like Gabbard. But evidently Im her most vocal supporter on this issue tonight.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)Yes, it's a kind of a fluke, but on the other hand, she is a Democrat and followed the rules. Also she is young, female, and represents a marginalized population, namely Pacific Islanders. If they are part of the US, would it kill us to let their delegate get a little face time on TV? I'm pretty confidant she wouldn't go after Biden, as in all likelihood he's our next president, so she's mainly a threat to Bernie, but a very minor one. Also 90 minutes is a long time and a little comic relief might have been welcome.
Just my $.02!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dansolo
(5,376 posts)She has been given the opportunity to participate in several debates. The field has been narrowed to two viable candidates. The only people who want her in the debate are those who want her there to attack Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yardwork
(61,785 posts)Gabbard is not a friend to the Democratic Party.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BusyBeingBest
(8,059 posts)That was IMO the beginning of the end for Kamala.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)The change has to come at their behest and with their assent. If not, then change is corrupt establishment change of dubious merit and questionable motive.
Rules are changed all the time. Look at sports. If the DNC wants to change a rule it's their prerogative. It's a debate for candidates actually running for the nomination, not candidates who are merely present.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)Arbitrary rule changes in the middle of the game dont strike me as very democratic.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
yardwork
(61,785 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
greatauntoftriplets
(175,772 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,458 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aikoaiko
(34,186 posts)Wagon circling.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
yardwork
(61,785 posts)The Democratic Party is a political party. It's purpose is to promote victories for members of the party.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden