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onenote

(42,700 posts)
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 10:34 AM Mar 2020

This morning's California primary update: Bernie's margin is down from 8.7% to 7.3%

There are still many many votes yet to be counted and reported, but so far, Bernie's share of the vote has increased by .1 percent (from 33.6% to 33.7%) , while Biden's has increased by 1.5 percent (from 24.9 to 26.4).

Further narrowing would not be surprising.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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This morning's California primary update: Bernie's margin is down from 8.7% to 7.3% (Original Post) onenote Mar 2020 OP
still over 2 million votes left to count as well? beachbumbob Mar 2020 #1
Wow. Wow! He needed a BLOWOUT in California (not just an expected "win") NurseJackie Mar 2020 #2
that was certainly an unintended consequence..... getagrip_already Mar 2020 #7
Looks like he got a slow leak instead... whistler162 Mar 2020 #8
in deed, and Humiliating for Bernie translates to GRUMPIER onetexan Mar 2020 #9
Not surprising NCProgressive Mar 2020 #3
and Joe Biden would have won California if not for Bloomberg still_one Mar 2020 #4
Sounds like CA came down with a classic case of Joe-mentum. Bleacher Creature Mar 2020 #5
The bottom line of all that is that California's delegates will be split MineralMan Mar 2020 #6
Not many "big ticket" states remaining... and Florida is looking pretty BLEAK for Bernie. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #11
Well, New York is still coming, too. MineralMan Mar 2020 #13
Yes... that's one of the Big Ticket states. How do you think Bernie will do there? NurseJackie Mar 2020 #15
There are still some 1 million votes that remain to be counted NYMinute Mar 2020 #10
When is a win not a win? When it's only 5% and he was expecting to take it all! NurseJackie Mar 2020 #12
Especially when you add Buttigieg's 6.7% and Bloomberg's 15.7% to Biden NYMinute Mar 2020 #16
Bernie has a "ceiling" ... and he's reached it. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #17
Before South Carolina and the two dropouts, MineralMan Mar 2020 #14
Cenk Uygur was beating his chest after Nevada NYMinute Mar 2020 #18
So, how did Cenk do in his own primary in California? MineralMan Mar 2020 #19
He got 5% of the vote NYMinute Mar 2020 #20
Hmm...looks like he needs to keep his day job, I guess. MineralMan Mar 2020 #21
What day job? NYMinute Mar 2020 #22
Oh, snap! MineralMan Mar 2020 #23
I didn't think it possible, but there's actually a non zero chance that tandem5 Mar 2020 #24
Kick Cha Mar 2020 #25
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
1. still over 2 million votes left to count as well?
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 10:39 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
2. Wow. Wow! He needed a BLOWOUT in California (not just an expected "win")
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 10:43 AM
Mar 2020

Wow. Wow! He needed a BLOWOUT in California (not just an expected "win'').

Moving California to Super-Tuesday certainly has had an effect on how things will be perceived going forward. There are no more BIG PRIZE states that could make-or-break or have any serious consequences on the inevitable outcome.

In spite of the "win" in California, this is still a completely HUMILIATING outcome for Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

getagrip_already

(14,742 posts)
7. that was certainly an unintended consequence.....
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 11:35 AM
Mar 2020

One of bernies battle cries in 2016 was that he was going to stay in through california because he would sweep the state and have enough delegates to contest the nomination.

He did stay in, and he didn't sweep the state and did not not have enough delegates to force a second vote.

That excuse is gone.

While I believe every state should be counted, in reality the outcome will be clear long before the last states vote. Of course, if they all fell 100% to bernie, it could change things. Just like the law of entropy, which says it's possible for every molecule in an object to move in the same direction at the same time, it just never happens.

My coffee cup just isn't going to jump into the air just because it's possible (although my beer bottles have moved sideways without help).

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
8. Looks like he got a slow leak instead...
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 11:36 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

onetexan

(13,040 posts)
9. in deed, and Humiliating for Bernie translates to GRUMPIER
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 12:31 PM
Mar 2020

in 2016 he was a grumpy old uncle. Now he's a GRUMPIER old uncle.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
3. Not surprising
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 10:45 AM
Mar 2020

The votes left to be counted are all late main-in ballots (send in the last 2 days and on the day of election)

Those votes are breaking heavily for Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,187 posts)
4. and Joe Biden would have won California if not for Bloomberg
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 10:53 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
5. Sounds like CA came down with a classic case of Joe-mentum.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 11:19 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
6. The bottom line of all that is that California's delegates will be split
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 11:35 AM
Mar 2020

fairly equally in the end, if this trend continues. Bernie Sanders was counting on a big win there, perhaps even with Biden getting almost no delegates at all. That did not happen. So, Sanders big chance to score in the state with the most delegates didn't occur.

He'll still get more delegates there than Biden, but not that many more, really. Biden will retain a delegate lead going into next Tuesday's primaries. Biden's lead will increase after Tuesday, and it will continue to increase as primaries are held.

This news from California has to be depressing to the Sanders camp.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
11. Not many "big ticket" states remaining... and Florida is looking pretty BLEAK for Bernie.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 12:37 PM
Mar 2020

Not many "big ticket" states remaining... and Florida is looking pretty BLEAK for Bernie. Based on current polling in Florida, it's possible that he may not even be viable. He could walk away with ZERO delegates if things continue to go in the same direction.

I'm sure that Bernie is fully aware that he has FAILED at this, his LAST shot, at being President. I expect that Jane is relieved and looking forward to returning to their cozy lakefront home in Vermont.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
13. Well, New York is still coming, too.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 12:39 PM
Mar 2020

But, Florida is huge for this primary cycle.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
15. Yes... that's one of the Big Ticket states. How do you think Bernie will do there?
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 12:40 PM
Mar 2020

He needs a blowout there as well. That's the only way he can catch up. Can he do it?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
10. There are still some 1 million votes that remain to be counted
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 12:36 PM
Mar 2020

They are all late mail-in ballots or hand-delivered mail-in ballots on the day of the election.

Biden is winning >2/3d of them.

The eventual margin will be <4 or 5%

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
12. When is a win not a win? When it's only 5% and he was expecting to take it all!
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 12:39 PM
Mar 2020

This is a big LOSS for Bernie.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
16. Especially when you add Buttigieg's 6.7% and Bloomberg's 15.7% to Biden
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 12:41 PM
Mar 2020

Bernie actually LOST California.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
17. Bernie has a "ceiling" ... and he's reached it.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 12:42 PM
Mar 2020

The voters are speaking loudly. The message is "we don't want Bernie" and "we like Joe".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
14. Before South Carolina and the two dropouts,
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 12:40 PM
Mar 2020

people were wondering if Biden would even be viable in CA. So much for that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
18. Cenk Uygur was beating his chest after Nevada
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 12:43 PM
Mar 2020

saying Sanders will be declared the nominee on Super Tuesday.

That was as effective as Lucy Flores' #meone moment.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
19. So, how did Cenk do in his own primary in California?
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 12:45 PM
Mar 2020

Not so well, I heard...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
20. He got 5% of the vote
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 12:48 PM
Mar 2020

The good news is that he did better than Papadopoulos who only got 328 votes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
21. Hmm...looks like he needs to keep his day job, I guess.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 12:49 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

tandem5

(2,072 posts)
24. I didn't think it possible, but there's actually a non zero chance that
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 04:29 PM
Mar 2020

Biden might take California.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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