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G_j

(40,367 posts)
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 05:00 PM Mar 2020

Jane Fonda Says Bernie Sanders Is the Only Climate Candidate

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ecowatch.com/amp/jane-fonda-climate-candidate-2645422952

By Jessica Corbett

Octogenarian actor and activist Jane Fonda declared ahead of a climate action protest in California Friday that the U.S. needs a "climate president" and she is now backing Sen. Bernie Sanders, who is leading a grassroots movement challenging the Democratic Party establishment coalescing around former Vice President Joe Biden.

"We have to get a climate president in office, and there's only one right now, and that's Bernie Sanders," Fonda told USA TODAY prior to the Los Angeles rally. "So, I'm indirectly saying I believe you have to support the climate candidate."

... USA Today noted that Fonda previously donated to Sens. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), who have since ended their campaigns.

Sanders' Green New Deal proposal to tackle the global climate crisis and ensure a just transition to renewable energy has been hailed by climate advocates as a "game-changer." The plan, unveiled in August 2019, calls for "100% renewable energy for electricity and transportation by no later than 2030 and complete decarbonization by at least 2050."

Fonda's comments about supporting Sanders came ahead of the second Fire Drill Friday event in California. In October 2019, Fonda launched Fire Drill Fridays as a weekly civil disobedience campaign in Washington, DC that aimed to pressure U.S. policymakers to ambitiously address the human-caused climate crisis.

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Jane Fonda Says Bernie Sanders Is the Only Climate Candidate (Original Post) G_j Mar 2020 OP
I believe all our viable candidates have favored addressing the toxic climate in Washington DC . . . Journeyman Mar 2020 #1
Greenpeace Gives Joe Biden a B on Climate Change Report Card Ouimette Mar 2020 #2
Well then, Joe will just have to get better. All faith in the world he will get on it when he wins. LizBeth Mar 2020 #3
I think he'd benefit from strengthening this now Lulu KC Mar 2020 #4
Day one in office the issue is resolved. He could have Inslee or someone just like, head it up. LizBeth Mar 2020 #7
Nor I Lulu KC Mar 2020 #10
I agree. And i thank Fonda for being attention to this. So easy to do. Step into Washington LizBeth Mar 2020 #12
I wish we were smarter on this. Ron Green Mar 2020 #26
Respectfully disagree with it being "easily solvable" BidenBacker Mar 2020 #31
Washington primary is a comin'. They can sit on stage together and have a discussion. I love our LizBeth Mar 2020 #8
Green new deal has no chance of passing...Joe's plan has a shot. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #35
Since Bernie cannot beat Trump, Sloumeau Mar 2020 #5
Short snip from Biden's site OKNancy Mar 2020 #6
Oh there ya go, posting facts again relayerbob Mar 2020 #9
Go, Joe, Go Lulu KC Mar 2020 #11
Well she is wrong... end of story Peacetrain Mar 2020 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author AlexSFCA Mar 2020 #14
Please stop the sexist attack. delisen Mar 2020 #29
Women are not underrepresented in our party for one thing and for another an attention can be Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #36
Well... at least she has an acting career to fall back on. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #15
Thanks, Jane PJMcK Mar 2020 #16
She has a life long history of activism G_j Mar 2020 #18
No, of course not PJMcK Mar 2020 #21
Bernie has a better record than Hillary did on climate change BidenBacker Mar 2020 #24
Then why wasn't that your post? ChubbyStar Mar 2020 #32
Nice response PJMcK Mar 2020 #34
Jane's going back to her old haunt Hanoi to campaign for Bernie BidenBacker Mar 2020 #17
I was wondering when that right wing smear would appear G_j Mar 2020 #19
Ever watch Stripes? BidenBacker Mar 2020 #20
Given Jane's record for predicting presidents BidenBacker Mar 2020 #22
Right. As soon as I read, I knew. As much as I would prefer otherwise, Jane feels LizBeth Mar 2020 #30
Bernie's campaign is spreading propaganda and lies about Biden and Climate change showblue22 Mar 2020 #23
I don't think Hanoi Jane's endorsement is really going comradebillyboy Mar 2020 #25
If you want maximalist environmental statements, yes. bluedye33139 Mar 2020 #27
Well just another GOOD Democrats opinion! BUT bluestarone Mar 2020 #28
K&R Thank you, Jane. For our children, vote for Bernie. BeckyDem Mar 2020 #33
No BeckyDem Sander would lose and our children would be far worse off with four more years of Trump. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #37
I absolutely adore Jane Fonda. Skid Rogue Mar 2020 #38
 

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
1. I believe all our viable candidates have favored addressing the toxic climate in Washington DC . . .
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 05:07 PM
Mar 2020
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LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
3. Well then, Joe will just have to get better. All faith in the world he will get on it when he wins.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 05:12 PM
Mar 2020

Here is why. This is years later. All our Democrats know to get on it. He is tied to Obama and Michelle, and they certainly know. I am confident Biden will get people in there that will get on it.

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Lulu KC

(2,565 posts)
4. I think he'd benefit from strengthening this now
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 05:15 PM
Mar 2020

Get together with Jay Inslee.
He has the room for it. We're all in this particular boat together--it will only help him with the vote, not hurt him, and it is the right thing to do.
I have faith that he will.

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LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
7. Day one in office the issue is resolved. He could have Inslee or someone just like, head it up.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 05:21 PM
Mar 2020

So yes, it is easily solvable and I do not think it will take a rocket scientist to figure this one out. Obama was addressing in his second term. HRC knew to go there. And it is four years later. Not something that will have me consider other than Biden.

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Lulu KC

(2,565 posts)
10. Nor I
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 05:29 PM
Mar 2020

but if there is one thing that may attract reasonable voters who are currently supporting his opponent, this might be it.

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LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
12. I agree. And i thank Fonda for being attention to this. So easy to do. Step into Washington
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 05:33 PM
Mar 2020

primary with this top on the agenda. I live in Oregon. We are big on this. And smart on this.

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Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
26. I wish we were smarter on this.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 07:17 PM
Mar 2020

You know that if the absent Republicans got their way to put the “cap and trade” bill to a statewide vote, it’d go down in flames.

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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
31. Respectfully disagree with it being "easily solvable"
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 08:17 PM
Mar 2020
So yes, it is easily solvable and I do not think it will take a rocket scientist to figure this one out.

I'm not a "rocket scientist" but I am a rocket engineer who has recently worked on wind turbines. Climate change is a huge problem...not just a technical one but an economic one as well. The challenges to significantly curb it are daunting...not just how we're actually gonna do it but how exactly are we gonna pay for it which is every bit as important from a practical standpoint as the engineering issues involved.

IMO, it will take a Manhattan Project or Apollo Program-like effort to even begin to seriously address the issue...a major commitment of both manpower and resources. It will take a lot more than just mere arm-waving and unrealistic policies financed by God knows what source. How Bernie proposes to pay for such an effort after spending $30 trillion in a decade on Medicare for All is beyond me. I've seen estimates that it will take anywhere from $40 to $70 trillion to put an effective end to climate change.

I just don't see that happening anytime soon by any candidate, but at the very least we can get a federal government with leaders and agency heads who will even just admit that there's a very real clear and present danger. Maybe once we're all hip-deep in seawater and sweltering in December we'll finally muster up the will to act. Until then, Biden is just as good as Bernie and probably better since he can actually win the general election. If we lose this one that's just another 4 years of blindly heading down a path with a big brick wall at the end of it.

Apologies for being such a Negative Nelly...but there's a helluva lotta stuff to be pessimistic about these days. Guess we all have days like this and it's just my day. Perhaps I should just stop bitching and go design a nuclear fusion reactor tonight and then none of this will be a problem tomorrow.
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LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
8. Washington primary is a comin'. They can sit on stage together and have a discussion. I love our
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 05:22 PM
Mar 2020

Democrats.

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Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
35. Green new deal has no chance of passing...Joe's plan has a shot.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 09:13 PM
Mar 2020

He is fine...obviously his ideas have been excepted by more folks than Sanders ideas have.

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Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
5. Since Bernie cannot beat Trump,
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 05:16 PM
Mar 2020

it doesn't really matter how good Bernie is on climate.

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OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
6. Short snip from Biden's site
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 05:17 PM
Mar 2020

Vice President Biden knows there is no greater challenge facing our country and our world. Today, he is outlining a bold plan – a Clean Energy Revolution – to address this grave threat and lead the world in addressing the climate emergency.

Biden believes the Green New Deal is a crucial framework for meeting the climate challenges we face. It powerfully captures two basic truths, which are at the core of his plan: (1) the United States urgently needs to embrace greater ambition on an epic scale to meet the scope of this challenge, and (2) our environment and our economy are completely and totally connected.

https://joebiden.com/climate/

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relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
9. Oh there ya go, posting facts again
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 05:23 PM
Mar 2020

"From coastal towns to rural farms to urban centers, climate change poses an existential threat ... " from the opening paragraph of Biden's climate change page

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Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
13. Well she is wrong... end of story
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 05:34 PM
Mar 2020
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delisen

(6,043 posts)
29. Please stop the sexist attack.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 07:54 PM
Mar 2020

The term attention whore has no place in a party where women are woefully and dangerously underrepresented.

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Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
36. Women are not underrepresented in our party for one thing and for another an attention can be
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 09:19 PM
Mar 2020

applied to a person of any sex...I would suggest you read up on the Democratic Party...it is an inclusive party we can all be proud of...

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
15. Well... at least she has an acting career to fall back on.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 05:40 PM
Mar 2020
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PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
16. Thanks, Jane
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 06:01 PM
Mar 2020

I always look to actors and musicians for guidance in life.

I haven't heard from Susan Sarandon lately. What's her viewpoint?

(sarcasm, if needed)

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G_j

(40,367 posts)
18. She has a life long history of activism
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 06:29 PM
Mar 2020

is this a problem for you?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Fonda

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PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
21. No, of course not
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 06:33 PM
Mar 2020

Ms. Fonda has been a life-long Democrat and supporter of progressive issues.

However, her comment that Sanders is the only candidate with a plan for climate change is hyperbolic at best.

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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
24. Bernie has a better record than Hillary did on climate change
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 07:10 PM
Mar 2020

Clinton wanted to use natural gas as a "bridge fuel". While natural gas has certain distinct advantages over other fossil fuels like coal and oil it is a major cause of methane pollution which is a FAR worse greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide and would accelerate climate change greatly.

But it appears that in Jane's case gender trumped global warming in 2016 when she had a clear choice between the two. You call her endorsement "hyperbolic"...I might call it "disingenuous".

Still like her but that doesn't mean we can't call people out when they're inconsistent, be they friend or foe.

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ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
32. Then why wasn't that your post?
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 08:35 PM
Mar 2020

Your guidance comment was condescending and childish.

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PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
34. Nice response
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 09:10 PM
Mar 2020

Enjoy your evening.

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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
17. Jane's going back to her old haunt Hanoi to campaign for Bernie
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 06:22 PM
Mar 2020

Not sure why, though. Polls there show Sanders is already leading Biden 92% to 8%.

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G_j

(40,367 posts)
19. I was wondering when that right wing smear would appear
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 06:30 PM
Mar 2020
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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
20. Ever watch Stripes?
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 06:33 PM
Mar 2020

"Lighten up, Francis."

I like Fonda. Even if she did just endorse the wrong candidate.

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BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
22. Given Jane's record for predicting presidents
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 06:40 PM
Mar 2020

I'm actually glad she just endorsed Bernie...

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/apr/15/jane-fonda-hillary-clinton-tribeca-film-festival

I guess she didn't quite care as much about climate change back in 2016.

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LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
30. Right. As soon as I read, I knew. As much as I would prefer otherwise, Jane feels
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 07:56 PM
Mar 2020

strongly about this. It is her issue. She is allowed.

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showblue22

(1,026 posts)
23. Bernie's campaign is spreading propaganda and lies about Biden and Climate change
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 06:43 PM
Mar 2020

This is insulting the intelligence of their own supporters. This is a flat out lie and they should be ashamed of themselves. Someone should call them out on it. They're colluding with the Sunrise movement to spread malicious lies.


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comradebillyboy

(10,144 posts)
25. I don't think Hanoi Jane's endorsement is really going
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 07:13 PM
Mar 2020

to get Bernie a lot of votes.

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bluedye33139

(1,474 posts)
27. If you want maximalist environmental statements, yes.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 07:19 PM
Mar 2020

If you want a rational candidate who can actually pass legislation, then that candidate might not be Bernie Sanders.

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bluestarone

(16,926 posts)
28. Well just another GOOD Democrats opinion! BUT
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 07:24 PM
Mar 2020

THIS Democrat does NOT agree! Joe will get the job done just as well!! Mainly because he will be able to beat tRUMP!! (THIS has to be done BEFORE taking on the climate crisis).

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BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)
33. K&R Thank you, Jane. For our children, vote for Bernie.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 09:06 PM
Mar 2020
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Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
37. No BeckyDem Sander would lose and our children would be far worse off with four more years of Trump.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 09:23 PM
Mar 2020
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Skid Rogue

(711 posts)
38. I absolutely adore Jane Fonda.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 09:50 PM
Mar 2020

I disagree with her choice, but she can do whatever she wants. IMO, when making these types of decisions, she always uses her heart and not her head. I wish her no different.

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