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Julian English

(434 posts)
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:01 AM Mar 2020

Why do BS Bros claim Biden has cognitive decline when BS is at very high risk for it after his MI?

People, particularly older people such as BS, who have a MI (Myocardial Infarct or heart attack) at extremely high risk of cognitive decline, depression, dementia, and other mental health issues. This, of course, is in addition to the fact that a white male over 70, such as BS, who has had a heart attack has a median life expectancy of under 4 years.

What sort of stupidity would drive BS supporters to suggest that Joe Biden has a cognitive issue when it's much more likely that BS is either suffering from cognitive issues or will be soon? It's just plain dumb for BS supporters to raise this issue. You have to wonder why BS doesn't try to stop this? Can't he see the risk of this ploy backfiring? Or is there something preventing him from understanding the risk?

Below is a link just one study that discusses the risk of the mental health issues (specifically, non-dementia cognitive decline) for someone as old as BS who has had a heart attack. There are hundreds more.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3410733/

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Why do BS Bros claim Biden has cognitive decline when BS is at very high risk for it after his MI? (Original Post) Julian English Mar 2020 OP
His face looks just like it did just before his heart attack. RandySF Mar 2020 #1
Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2020 #7
Wow, that was bad Polybius Mar 2020 #8
Sure looks like it!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2020 #16
If it's the video I'm thinking about Hav Mar 2020 #26
Of course we should discuss it... ignoring it may lead to regrets. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2020 #10
The vetting is happening right now HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #35
Ya mean like vetting their record on promises bout their medical record ehrnst Mar 2020 #39
Sorry, but that is simply not possible to be more healthy because of a heart attack. Julian English Mar 2020 #12
Bernie was a long distance runner in High School, captain of his team. Did very well. Midnight Writer Mar 2020 #25
Hmm. Can we have AOC as VP, please? Ghost Dog Mar 2020 #30
That video has a link to DonaldJTrump.com and it's from the Trump War Room. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #14
You should be ashamed of yourself FreeState Mar 2020 #15
What else have they got? And they are desperate and will say anything. Hoyt Mar 2020 #3
Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #4
Naw, dware Mar 2020 #6
Naw, it's the truth. StrictlyRockers Mar 2020 #9
LOL. dware Mar 2020 #11
Clearly!! I'm not reaching any conclusions... but there should be a thorough vetting process. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2020 #13
. TexasTowelie Mar 2020 #24
We already have a thorough vetting process. HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author TwilightZone Mar 2020 #17
No Cha Mar 2020 #20
From delusion to dissonance to projection another example Sander devotees grantcart Mar 2020 #21
Is Idaho still a caucus? showblue22 Mar 2020 #27
First primary grantcart Mar 2020 #28
Oh good. showblue22 Mar 2020 #29
. TexasTowelie Mar 2020 #22
All BS Bros have is this fake Republican talking point about Biden's health Julian English Mar 2020 #23
IRRELEVANT greyl Mar 2020 #5
Why not keep trying to convince voters on policy? Tell us what makes Bernie especially qualified emmaverybo Mar 2020 #18
There is a veritable flood of this on twittter. Scurrilous Mar 2020 #19
I've seen some DeterDeter Mar 2020 #31
Better question: why are they doing it when it is a baseless attack by Filthy Donnie that Squinch Mar 2020 #32
I'm beginning to think that BS in suffering from cognitive decline after his heart attack Julian English Mar 2020 #33
Grasping at straws... Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #34
All BS Bros are doing is helping Trump. They were never true progressives Julian English Mar 2020 #37
Because ableism is rampant loyalsister Mar 2020 #38
 

RandySF

(58,823 posts)
1. His face looks just like it did just before his heart attack.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:03 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Polybius

(15,413 posts)
8. Wow, that was bad
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:11 AM
Mar 2020

Did that just happen?

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
16. Sure looks like it!!
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:18 AM
Mar 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
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Hav

(5,969 posts)
26. If it's the video I'm thinking about
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:05 AM
Mar 2020

then it was a deliberately cut video to mislead, put together by Trump backers. Don't fall for cheap tricks by the Trump campaign.

More here:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287645606

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
10. Of course we should discuss it... ignoring it may lead to regrets.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:15 AM
Mar 2020

Bernie's health was an issue for months... yet Biden's health is off limits?! Come on folks... we need to thoroughly vet ALL our candidates!!


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
35. The vetting is happening right now
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:42 PM
Mar 2020

That’s why Bernie is losing.

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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
39. Ya mean like vetting their record on promises bout their medical record
Mon Mar 9, 2020, 10:54 AM
Mar 2020

n' full disclosure n' stuff?


Joe/Kamala or Biden/Harris 2020!!
Jump on the Biden Bandwagon & abandon the revolution!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Julian English

(434 posts)
12. Sorry, but that is simply not possible to be more healthy because of a heart attack.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:16 AM
Mar 2020

Elderly people don't become "stronger and healthier" after a heart attack unless they were a total mess and go through extreme rehab. That's tRump level craziness to suggest othrewise. Read some of the studies. Look at the data. People his age go into decline. I'm a doctor, I've seen.

Conversely, speaking as a physician, I seen no evidence of any cognitive decline with Biden. I evaluate people for this sort of stuff and he's not showing any signs that raise such a conce. (BTW, Biden was a great athlete in his youth, which is a protective factors BS lacks.)

Basically, yourr is claim of Biden of having a cognitive issue is not only false, but you're also repeating a Republican talking point.

What we need to discss are the facts, And the facts are that BS is the one at risk of cognitive decline if he is not already suffering from it now--rather than BS fantasy. (People who show the rigid, dogmatic thinking BS shows is an additional risk factor.)

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Midnight Writer

(21,765 posts)
25. Bernie was a long distance runner in High School, captain of his team. Did very well.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:45 AM
Mar 2020

Personally, I think they are both too old for comfort. This is not only the most powerful job on Earth, it is extremely tough and stressful.

I'm a little younger than these guys, and I don't think I'd last a day on the campaign trail. I need naps.

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Undecided
 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
30. Hmm. Can we have AOC as VP, please?
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 05:55 AM
Mar 2020

Last edited Sun Mar 8, 2020, 08:03 AM - Edit history (1)

With either P.

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TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
14. That video has a link to DonaldJTrump.com and it's from the Trump War Room.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:17 AM
Mar 2020

It's prominently displayed in the upper-left-hand corner and the source is at the bottom.

Is that what you really wanted to post?

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FreeState

(10,572 posts)
15. You should be ashamed of yourself
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:18 AM
Mar 2020

We are better than this n/t

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Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. What else have they got? And they are desperate and will say anything.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:05 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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dware

(12,377 posts)
6. Naw,
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:09 AM
Mar 2020

it's desperation.

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StrictlyRockers

(3,855 posts)
9. Naw, it's the truth.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:12 AM
Mar 2020

Face it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dware

(12,377 posts)
11. LOL.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:16 AM
Mar 2020

This is too funny.
Bernie is done, this Tuesday will seal his fate and Joe Biden will become the Democratic nominee and the next President.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
13. Clearly!! I'm not reaching any conclusions... but there should be a thorough vetting process.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:16 AM
Mar 2020

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
36. We already have a thorough vetting process.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:46 PM
Mar 2020

That is why Bernie is losing. Dems don’t want him to be the nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Cha

(297,221 posts)
20. No
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:22 AM
Mar 2020


Sanders' Deceptive Obama Quotes In Ad

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/1287643005

Just watched an all-Obama ad for Sanders

It's literally a bunch of Obama quotes from past Bernie praise. It concludes will a full screen video of Obama saying "feel the Bern." It's clearly trying to imply Obama is behind Sanders in the primary.

Amazingly deceptive.

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/1287645373#post4
If I were to vote in a presidential
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grantcart

(53,061 posts)
21. From delusion to dissonance to projection another example Sander devotees
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:22 AM
Mar 2020

Detached from reality.

Sanders biggest "landslide" win was 50% in Vermont. Biden will have a dozen states with a higher percentage than Bernie's % in his home state.

Biden's huge numbers in Florida will probably NET him more than Sanders TOTAL number of delegates in CA, which was supposed to be a landslide but turned out to be a modest 7 % lead.

Minutes ago every single (100%) elected Democratic official in Idaho endorsed Biden in a joint statement, this in a caucus state that went Sanders 4 years ago.

Sanders devotees point to Washington State as a bright spot for Sanders because he won the caucuses 4 years ago. What they don't know is that WS also had a primary last time that Sanders lost big time.

In any case even if you give Sanders the most favourable projections he cannot catch Biden because Democrats use proportional allocation not winner take all.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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showblue22

(1,026 posts)
27. Is Idaho still a caucus?
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 03:14 AM
Mar 2020

If so, Bernie may win that one.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Julian English

(434 posts)
23. All BS Bros have is this fake Republican talking point about Biden's health
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:23 AM
Mar 2020

The BS people ignore the fact that BS is a 78 y/o white male who had a heart attack is at high risk of mental health issues and death.

Do you ever see a single response that offers any scientific support that argues otherwise?

No--because there isn't any.

This is exactly why BS won't release his medical records. If they would show what the BS supporters claim, BS would have released. He knows the records will show he has major medical issues, so he's buried them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
18. Why not keep trying to convince voters on policy? Tell us what makes Bernie especially qualified
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:19 AM
Mar 2020

to be the president of they United States.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Scurrilous

(38,687 posts)
19. There is a veritable flood of this on twittter.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:19 AM
Mar 2020

Most using the same exact language. Desperation has reached peak tweet. But you're right, Bernie is in the cross hairs of this. Not good.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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DeterDeter

(70 posts)
31. I've seen some
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 06:34 AM
Mar 2020

(very few) Biden supporters post on Twitter pictures of Bernie looking red faced and heaving, and I always choose not to amplify it because I think it's trashy and I've had family members who have had heart attacks, and even though I think that Biden will most likely be the nominee, I'm not exactly counting Bernie out yet. And I think that it's telling that they have not been amplified by his supporters to the extend of ever being trending on Twitter, or spread by his bluecheck supporters. This is the stench of a campaign that knows it's losing, and it really does a disservice to all of the people who have worked so hard to get his campaign where it is. And as someone who has had family members with dementia...these clowns clearly have NO CONCEPTION of what actual dementia or sundowning is, and it's bringing up a lot of painful memories for me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Squinch

(50,949 posts)
32. Better question: why are they doing it when it is a baseless attack by Filthy Donnie that
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 07:08 AM
Mar 2020

they have cut and pasted onto our site and other Democratic sites?

This is absolutely disgusting. This is a Russian bot and ratfucker tactic, and our own posters are helping them. So transparent. SO disgusting.

I am so sick of these people.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Julian English

(434 posts)
33. I'm beginning to think that BS in suffering from cognitive decline after his heart attack
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:38 PM
Mar 2020

Why else would anyone who claims to be a progressive allow his campaign to propagate and repeat the ableist lies?

A person whose brain was working well would have to realize that these lies are backfiring on his campaign and only helping tRump.

BS just doesn't seem to be able to grasp the reality of his situation and the consequences of his actions.

He's repeatedly the same mistakes he made in 2016 but the mistakes are worse this time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Happy Hoosier

(7,308 posts)
34. Grasping at straws...
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:41 PM
Mar 2020

They are losing, they know it, and they will do whatever they can to reverse it, including this vile smear.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Julian English

(434 posts)
37. All BS Bros are doing is helping Trump. They were never true progressives
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:47 PM
Mar 2020

The BS Stans & BS Bros who engage in this were never true progressives.

Progressivism is based on love and respect of other humans. The BS supporters are filled with hate and contempt for most of humanity. Progressivism is based on tolerance. These BS supporters are intolerant of anyone who dares disagrees.

And BS doesn't just tolerate them and this hateful, divisive behavior. BS encourages the hateful, divisive behavior.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
38. Because ableism is rampant
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:58 PM
Mar 2020

It is popular to accuse enemies of having a characteristic that is commonly marginalized when all else fails. Many of the same people who are outraged saw nothing wrong with speculating that Trump has some kind of mental illness. It dates back to an alternative for marginalizing anyone not white, as well as arguments against women voting. It's ironic when Biden defenders get upset considering the bottom line of his lack of support for Med4all is the private health insurance underwriters and their supporters who would rather disabled people die than not have insurance alternatives that provide them with a sense of superiority.

https://socialwelfare.library.vcu.edu/woman-suffrage/disability-justification-inequality-american-history/

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