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Uncle Joe

(58,355 posts)
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:27 PM Mar 2020

Sanders, Biden camps clash over Arizona debate format



Bernie Sanders wants to stand up at the next debate — and his campaign is accusing Joe Biden of wanting to sit down.

After a private call Friday with CNN, which is moderating the March 15 debate with the Democratic National Committee, Sanders' team balked at a new proposed format for debate, saying it gives his opponent Biden too much of a break in their first one-on-one face-off. Biden’s camp denied that it was pressing for a sit-down debate.

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“Why does Joe Biden not want to stand toe-to-toe with Sen. Sanders on the debate stage March 15 and have an opportunity to defend his record and articulate his vision for the future?” asked Jeff Weaver, Sanders’ senior adviser.

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The Sanders campaign’s accusations unfold just as his supporters and some Republicans have stepped up their criticisms of the 77-year-old Biden’s physical fitness and mental acuity after lapses on the campaign trail and multiple poor debate performances.

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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/07/bernie-sanders-joe-biden-arizona-debate-123467

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Sanders, Biden camps clash over Arizona debate format (Original Post) Uncle Joe Mar 2020 OP
just saying... (and I could go on...) handmade34 Mar 2020 #1
I believe debates pics and candidate issues Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #3
so standing is a 2020's thing? handmade34 Mar 2020 #9
This is a silly point. Drunken Irishman Mar 2020 #10
WTF are you talking about? Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #18
What about "much more" do you not understand? Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #19
Previous years have always had at least one sitting debate, with just Blue_true Mar 2020 #22
When the field gets down to two or three people, one it more Blue_true Mar 2020 #21
So they aren't really clashing, it's a pretty one-sided controversy Hav Mar 2020 #2
Jesus Christ...this childish bullshit has got to stop. nolabear Mar 2020 #4
+1 hlthe2b Mar 2020 #20
Team Sanders is trying to make something out of nothing mcar Mar 2020 #5
They did it to HRC. I want Sanders medical records. He promised. He broke his promise. LizBeth Mar 2020 #15
They did. mcar Mar 2020 #16
I agree he should show rockfordfile Mar 2020 #23
Glad to see jury did not hide, despite thinking this is Sanders' typical junk. Hoyt Mar 2020 #6
People alert on too many posts here. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #11
No joke. Disagreeing or disliking are not reasons to Alert. Hoyt Mar 2020 #12
This is reportable news regarding the candidates' stance Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #13
So it's a fake controversy created by the Sanders campaign to attack Biden, since highplainsdem Mar 2020 #7
They are trying to get the idea that Joe isn't fit into people's Blue_true Mar 2020 #24
Jeezus!!! dware Mar 2020 #8
Release medical records Sanders. You promised. You are breaking your word. LizBeth Mar 2020 #14
If Joe had wanted to stand Bernie would have wanted to sit HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #17
 

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
1. just saying... (and I could go on...)
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:41 PM
Mar 2020




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Uncle Joe

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3. I believe debates pics and candidate issues
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:47 PM
Mar 2020

from 2020 are much more pertinent to 2020.

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handmade34

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9. so standing is a 2020's thing?
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:56 PM
Mar 2020

...the point is over time many debates between 2 people has been either sitting at desk or sitting in chairs... there are numerous reasons a debate would be desirable either way: standing or sitting

I'm sure in Texas Greg Abbott would be concerned if it was mandatory to stand during debate

standing is more formal and possibly an element of informality is desirable by sitting

it really depends of the tone the moderator wants to take and how the candidates wants to come across to the viewers... but silly to imply that one of the candidates is unwell

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Drunken Irishman

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10. This is a silly point.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:58 PM
Mar 2020

How are debates with 10+ candidates any way comparable to a debate with just two candidates? There have been sit down debates going back to 2004:



It's common practice to have a sit down debate when there's a much smaller level of candidates. It allows for an informal setting and more engagement than when the candidate's are 20 feet away at a debate lectern.

Sounds like Bernie might be scared of that type of setting.

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Happy Hoosier

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18. WTF are you talking about?
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:38 PM
Mar 2020

This is nuts. Why the fuck would previous years' debates not matter here? What possible basis is there for that argument.

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Uncle Joe

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19. What about "much more" do you not understand?
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:57 PM
Mar 2020
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Blue_true

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22. Previous years have always had at least one sitting debate, with just
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 06:22 PM
Mar 2020

one moderator. This is a perfect time for such a format, with two people that have a chance to win left in the field.

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Blue_true

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21. When the field gets down to two or three people, one it more
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 06:20 PM
Mar 2020

debates will be a sitting debate. Since the DNC has not had a sitting debate and the debate on March 15 could very well be the last practical one, it makes sense that the two candidates sit with one moderator.

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Hav

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2. So they aren't really clashing, it's a pretty one-sided controversy
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:44 PM
Mar 2020

It's the BS campaign whining about the debate format put forward by the party and CNN and pretending it's coming from the Biden camp. I think it's another cheap trick to further push their smears against Biden, insinuating he cannot stand...despite countless debates to prove the opposite.

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nolabear

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4. Jesus Christ...this childish bullshit has got to stop.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:50 PM
Mar 2020

I guess it won’t though. I’m so ashamed of the so called Democrats dragging the party down with this manipulative, adolescent crap flinging.

Fight us on issues. On real health concerns. On anything supportable! But this endless dishonest posturing and innuendo is harming the party they pretend to be part of.

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mcar

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5. Team Sanders is trying to make something out of nothing
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:51 PM
Mar 2020

And continues to push their disgusting "Joe isn't fit" smear. This is not a clash. The media should not bill it so.

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LizBeth

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15. They did it to HRC. I want Sanders medical records. He promised. He broke his promise.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:19 PM
Mar 2020
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mcar

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16. They did.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:22 PM
Mar 2020

And left the door open for Trump to continue same. Note Trump's messaging too - very similar.

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rockfordfile

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23. I agree he should show
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 06:23 PM
Mar 2020
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Hoyt

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6. Glad to see jury did not hide, despite thinking this is Sanders' typical junk.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:54 PM
Mar 2020
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Turin_C3PO

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11. People alert on too many posts here.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:01 PM
Mar 2020

I only alert when it’s an obvious troll or something bigoted.

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Hoyt

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12. No joke. Disagreeing or disliking are not reasons to Alert.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:03 PM
Mar 2020
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Uncle Joe

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13. This is reportable news regarding the candidates' stance
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:09 PM
Mar 2020

on the debate and this OP was alerted on?

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highplainsdem

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7. So it's a fake controversy created by the Sanders campaign to attack Biden, since
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:54 PM
Mar 2020

the Biden campaign had nothing to do with the plan to have the candidates seated during the debate.

Shame on the Sanders campaign for this sort of crap.

It's so stupid, and so obvious.

And it's very insulting to voters when the Sanders campaign does something like this.


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Blue_true

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24. They are trying to get the idea that Joe isn't fit into people's
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 06:28 PM
Mar 2020

mind. The Sanders campaign has used tactics like this before.

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dware

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8. Jeezus!!!
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 01:55 PM
Mar 2020

The Sanders campaign is really, really getting ridiculous.

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LizBeth

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14. Release medical records Sanders. You promised. You are breaking your word.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:18 PM
Mar 2020
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HarlanPepper

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17. If Joe had wanted to stand Bernie would have wanted to sit
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 02:34 PM
Mar 2020

These little attacks and squabbles are emblematic of a campaign that is failing, like Bernie’s.

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