Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWhat the media missed about Joe Biden's electability (Ezra Klein, Vox)
https://www.vox.com/2020/3/9/21169367/joe-biden-electability-democratic-primary-bernie-sanders-donald-trumpLong piece, well worth reading in its entirety, as Klein focuses on theories of how the media missed that it would be Biden, not Sanders, who'd get more voters to turn out.
He boils it down to three basic failings of the media:
1) Journalists/pundits are much more concerned about Biden's stutter and gaffes than voters are.
2) The voters behind the high turnout aren't as ideological as political junkies.
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In general, this strategy disappoints. The most famous choice, not an echo candidate, Barry Goldwater, lost in a landslide. And hes the rule, not the exception. Political scientists have long found that more ideologically extreme candidates face an electoral penalty. Theres some evidence that that penalty is weakening but as Matt Yglesias documents, its not disappeared.
3) "2020 is a referendum on Trump, not on the Democratic agenda"
Biden is the closest thing to a candidate who disagrees. His tag line is that hell beat Trump like a drum. He routinely gets criticized by liberals for saying things like history will treat this administrations time as an aberration, or This is not the Republican Party. His answers trade heavily on nostalgia for the Obama administration, which is to say, for the pre-Trump status quo. Its basically as close to the Democrats 2018 congressional strategy as a presidential campaign can run.
Honestly, this is something journalists and pundits should have figured out earlier, if they didn't often show elitist contempt for the average voter -- and for pragmatic, non-ideological candidates like Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)and thana god we are not making it referendum on socialism if Bernie had won the nomination. Our message would be lost.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hlthe2b
(102,260 posts)Ideological Purity is a "luxury" and as self-defeating a concept as we could adopt in a BIG TENT party and for those desperate to remove Trump and his destruction.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,196 posts)deliberately.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onenote
(42,700 posts)As much as many DUers, among others, want a revolution (including many Biden supporting DUers), I think the average person simply is hoping for a return to a sense of normal and calm. They are exhausted from the craziness of the past three years. They want to wake up and not worry about what they're going to read in the newspapers.
They see Joe as giving them that. They don't see it from Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,196 posts)TY, hpd!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(47,427 posts)are too in love with the sounds of their own voices to hear what real voters are saying. They talk because they are paid to, even when they have nothing to say.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wishstar
(5,269 posts)He and Jill gave some good interviews and Joe got at least a B+ on those last 2 debates during early voting and right before Super Tuesday plus the weaknesses of Sanders and Bloomberg brought a lot of negative attention to them. Most voters felt they had to coalesce around the strongest moderate to have a chance to win in November.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)"Scratch a political junkie and youll almost always find the same theory of turnout underpinning their plans: If only a candidate would say what I already think, but louder."
Exactly. I thought immediately of Rachel Bitecofer while reading that. She has the overboard belief in turnout so no kidding the other day she was insisting that only a young female liberal balancing act at vice president could deliver the magical turnout.
Someone who overrates turnout is also going to overstate the impact of the vice presidential slot. Rachel Bitecofer is anything but unpredictable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden