Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumSanders supporters are going through the five stages of mourning
denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance
Biden looks inevitable now , but I see a lot of denial and anger from some Sanders supporters (not so much here, but elsewhere)
Will we move to the other stages after the next Primaries and towards the DNC?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TDale313
(7,820 posts)Instead of stumping for Bernie? Anger.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)Why are you undecided? Considering your comment, I don't get it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
edhopper
(33,579 posts)Biden is not my choice, I just see the math and the map making him the odds on favorite to take the nomination. So I have moved on to look at November. I don't dislike Joe, and if he does, in fact, have the best chance to beat Trump, that is good. I will support him in the election and work to get him elected. I'm just not in his primary 'camp". If things were reversed after Super Tuesday, i would be saying the same things to Biden supporters.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TDale313
(7,820 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)Biden respects him and hasn't done anything to poison the well, other than run the table on him. A little grown-up behavior and straight talk with his supporters is all we can ask of him. Either way, the beatings will continue.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)are declaring as loudly as possible that Biden is going to lose to Trump or that Biden is Hillary Clinton v.2.0 (except of course, Hillary DID overwhelmingly win the primary against Sanders and won the PV and how she lost the EC is waaaay more complicated than many of them want to make it seem). I have a feeling that, if Biden wins the nod, this is going to be much a redux of 2016, although hopefully with a better eventual outcome.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)It's almost like it would give them a sense of smug satisfaction and/or validation, like they probably felt in 2016. I totally understand their disappointment about Sanders (probably) losing the nomination again. I certainly am disappointed that Warren is out of the running now, as she was my first choice. However, we can't survive another 4 years of Trump and even though Biden has a much less developed idea of what he plans to accomplish as President than what I would prefer, I have zero doubts that he will appoint qualified and competent individuals to his cabinet and throughout the Federal Government and he will nominate qualified and competent Judges to fill the federal bench and Supreme Court, esp. as we are looking at the high probability that Breyer and Ginsburg won't last through another 4 years of Trump and having a 7-2 right-wing Supreme Court would be a disaster of unmitigated proportions (and it's bad enough as it is now). Some people seem to be unable and/or unwilling to see the forest for the trees and it's hard to convince them of the actual dangers of another 4 years of Trump. One of my friends basically mocks anybody she feels is just saying "Orange man bad" (which he most definitely is, though). She basically doesn't see that Trump is anything more than a natural extension of everything that has come before and goes back and points out that Trump isn't as bad as, say, Hitler. Hard to challenge that sort of mentality.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
apnu
(8,756 posts)He's running the exact same campaign in 2016 that wasn't good enough to win the nomination. He's still trying to pack the room with his people and displace long-time democratic voting groups. This is a hostile take over, everybody knows it and Sander's supporters are particularly gleeful about it.
It didn't work n 2016, but here Sanders is again, doing the same thing and failing the same again.
He had years to change his tactics and build bridges to the constituents that rejected him last time. He's done nothing towards that, that is 100% his fault and his problem.
This isn't a failure of his policies or what he's fighting for. This is a failure of Sanders personally, as a leader, as a motivator, as a person.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
edhopper
(33,579 posts)they cheated.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)But some Sanders supporters completely gloss over the cheating and some of them even mock the rest of us when we bring up Russia being involved in the election interference and continue to just blame Hillary for being a bad candidate/wrong choice, even though she did well in the debates against Trump and, aside from the whole flap over her e-mail server, which she really had no control over, her campaign was fine. The only thing that maybe she should have done more of was to put in an appearance in one of the midwest states (that Democrats almost never lose), but I'm not totally convinced it would have changed anything per se. Comey's surprise announcement that he seemed to be re-opening the e-mail server investigation in the last few days of the campaign seemed to hugely shift the momentum towards Trump, even though he was already actively under investigation for collusion with Russia (unbeknownst to the rest of us).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
edhopper
(33,579 posts)was a key fubar.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
brooklynite
(94,552 posts)Twitter is full of Bernie people insisting that Biden pick a left-wing VP...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lulu KC
(2,565 posts)Really, Twitter is hitting a new low. I just visited it to see what my favorites were observing and ended up reporting and blocking 11 people during my normal a.m. coffee visit. And those were just the meanies--the clueless I let drift by.
And yet, I CAN'T TURN AWAY!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)A small subset, to be sure, but lack of acceptance is kind of built into the concept.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Farmer-Rick
(10,170 posts)Biden supporters are showing irrational exuberance. Biden has been behind Bernie for so long that this small jump feels like a total win to them.
Bernie is not finished. Biden better bring his best game and leave his gaffs at home.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)Biden is up nearly 30 points in Michigan and is forecast to acquire more than 2300 delegates before the convention.
That is not, in any form of the term, a small jump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tavernier
(12,388 posts)They dont refund.
Im not being mean. I like Bernie, and he brought us some valuable goals to achieve. But its not going to happen for him and its not Joes fault. Elections are brutal. Dont you think its time now for us to unite against the real enemy?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Farmer-Rick
(10,170 posts)I'm not totally sold on Bernie. But I don't think he is out for the count. We'll see.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
tavernier
(12,388 posts)Unfortunately he thinks rump is responsible for the great economy. But I love him anyway.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)bwahahahahahahahahahaah
Joe/Kamala or Biden/Harris 2020!!
Either way they are stronger together & can't be bought!!!
Jump on the Biden Bandwagon & abandon the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
grantcart
(53,061 posts)There are 2 stories.
1) Biden's rise
2) Sanders collapse
Polls now showing Biden leading in states Sander won 4 years ago like Michigan and Washington.
From detachment to disengagement to complete disregarding of facts, the inability of Sanders devotees to get out of the bubble is a social phenomena of its own.
The final and last stage will be Sanders devotees demanding massive concessions from Biden because Trump and Biden are so similar.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Or is that simply more inclusive rhetoric designed to bring the party closer together and win supporters?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Farmer-Rick
(10,170 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Joe/Kamala or Biden/Harris 2020!!
Jump on the Biden Bandwagon & abandon the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
J_William_Ryan
(1,753 posts)Biden supporters want to beat Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Jarqui
(10,125 posts)Link to tweet
He said on Feb 21st "I've got news for the Republican establishment. I've got news for the Democratic establishment. They can't stop us."
He is correct.
Democracts are going to stop him at the ballot box on March 10, March 17th and March 24th
Biden has opened up double digit leads in many of the upcoming states
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!:hi
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DrToast
(6,414 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!:hi
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hav
(5,969 posts)and Biden has decisive enough results so that the primary looks more and more done. We don't need another convention where some naive got duped by irresponsible people that there was still hope and that the superdelegates would overturn the will of the people.
As for the stages of grief, the problem last time was that a considerable number never left the anger phase. Some never did till this day. I hope this time maturity and the acceptance to fight for a common goal and improve the conditions in regards to many aspects wins. Getting to 80-90% of what someone promised who never had a serious plan to make those promises a reality is still definitely progress. 2-3 Supreme Court Justices appointed by a Dem is without a doubt progress. Those who'd rather piss on 80% progress are acting irresponsibly.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)that one of them enters the convention with the majority of pledged delegates on the first ballot. It's looking like that will be Biden. And that's OK with me.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Bayard
(22,069 posts)And I'm afraid they just won't vote in Nov. Insert dog in the manger analogy here. X
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mikeysnot
(4,756 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)It is not and will not be helpful to continue to push. Biden's candidacy seems to have the momentum at this point and it's happening organically.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
but some of the attacks will help Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided