Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWhen you lose your integrity, you have lost the race.
In the past week, Sanders has put out misinformation, misleading messages and down and out falsehoods. His campaign is in meltdown mode, his supporters are (well fill in the blank).
Tomorrow will be the crushing blow to his campaign with no path to the nomination. What will Sanders do? We will find out tomorrow night.
Mr. Sanders you have lost your integrity so the things you say you stand for IMHO have fallen to the wayside.
Not only have you lost your integrity, you have just lost.
I may take a beating for posting this but someone had to say it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Unfortunately, that is the way it is looking to me right now. It is really sad actually. I suppose presidential races can do that to some people, especially when winning seems within reach and becomes the primary focus.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
It is sad to see this campaign apparently in its waning days, even though I am no fan of Sanders.
I wish there was a way to give him a graceful way out. The problem is that I don't think he would take it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(47,418 posts)but as you say, he probably wouldn't take it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Under The Radar
(3,401 posts)But regretfully it is often not that way.
I think Adam Schiff and the house impeachment managers are full of integrity. People of integrity follows the rules and abide by the law, and the cheaters view that as a weakness.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,145 posts)I have to believe that. What else is there?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Under The Radar
(3,401 posts)Doing the right thing feels good at times because your conscious is clean, you can walk down the street with your head held high and no fear from looking anyone else square in the eye. With Integrity you have the advantage of sleeping well. And your struggles in the fight to preserve integrity, steal precious time away from you wife and children. there is no glory.
The Cheaters have bought and paid for the judges, and corporations have arbitration laws to circumvent trials.
My father, a later day Atticus Finch as a civil rights attorney always taught me, honesty pays, but not very much
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Under The Radar
(3,401 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
calimary
(81,220 posts)was deliberate, and deliberately misleading.
I cant possibly imagine President Obama endorsing anyone else when his own loyal, supportive, and effective Vice President is in the running.
Just cant imagine that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Under The Radar
(3,401 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,748 posts)That is all I will say at this time.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
subana
(586 posts)...he reminds me more of the way republicans act!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sloumeau
(2,657 posts)raw, unadulterated nonsense, garbage, untruths, half-truths, and misleading statements as Bernie Sanders's 2020 Democratic Presidential Primary Nominee quest. He and his surrogates should be mightily embarrassed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,145 posts)Unfortunately they will not.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(47,418 posts)And Sanders could have done very well without all the garbage. People responded to his message and his rallies.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)He 's the one who kept saying that the revolution would rise up and do this, do that. Pass M4A. Get Congress off pork. Convince Mitch to be an actual human being. All enormous tasks. But he told them that all they had to do was believe and they could do it. Heady shit. Totally false, but heady, especially in young kids w/o any real knowledge of how things work. Any wonder that these same people now falsely believe they can win elections by tweeting 'Joe Biden is senile' hundreds of times a day. They were told they could achieve stuff by acting up. Bernie is the one who told them this, Bernie is to blame.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,760 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,145 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Right up there with temperament and demeanor... topping the list... is INTEGRITY! The candidate that I end up voting for will have a monopoly on it.
Look, we've seen this all before. We know exactly how this is going to end and it won't be pretty. This will drag on and on to the convention and beyond. I've neither seen, nor heard ANYTHING that will make me believe differently.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,145 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Even at the Convention.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jrthin
(4,835 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Rabrrrrrr
(58,349 posts)Now he's just an embarrassment, and too many of his followers (which I used to be!) have gone off the deep end in divisive, snotty, conspiratorial ways.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,145 posts)He gave them hope & to end like this is just so sad.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hekate
(90,662 posts)...the grumpy old Jewish guy from the Bronx, altho hubby hasn't lived there since he was a teenager in 1964 and the family moved to SoCal. Everything about Bernie that makes me roll my eyes -- his Marxist ideology, the vehemence with which he waves his arms, the volume and anger -- seems to remind my husband of some long-lost uncle when you add his age and ethnicity.
After a certain point I tried to soft-peddle my own opinions at home in the name of peace (tho it may not have always come out that way) -- but if something came out in the news, I'd say I'd already heard about that (at DU, usually) and sorry, it was true. When it came to Sanders' more toxic followers, I did say more than once that I would have cut that man so much slack if only he would denounce them all and tell them to stop saying they worked for him.
I can understand the disappointment now. I feel it from my husband when Bernie comes on.
Hang in there. Let's just get rid of Trump. God willing, as hubby says.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brer cat
(24,560 posts)A lot of us agree with you.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Maru Kitteh
(28,339 posts)(present company included) and actually steps aside, appropriately, when it is clear that our nominee is Biden AND enthusiastically works with all of that vigor and energy he claims to pull his supporters into the fold. Let him show real commitment to what the Democratic voters have said, and put our party and our country above what I and many others see as the vanity of his "revolution."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,145 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Jarqui
(10,123 posts)he'll have no choice.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,180 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,145 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,180 posts)Peaceful Mahalo, Bill
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hekate
(90,662 posts)❤️❤️❤️
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ashredux
(2,605 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NoMoreRepugs
(9,417 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
McKim
(2,412 posts)Maybe the Sanders supporters like me are tired of the bashing. You may need our vote down the line someday. With the country in a health and economic crisis it is easy to get overly excited.
Why do I support Sanders? I remember my parents worrying about how to pay for my moms insulin in the 1940s and 50s and her doctor bills and hospital bills....I want universal health care and free university. Young people are really struggling. I am not evil and I am tired of all the bashing. Looks like your candidate is winning, can you be a gracious winner?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,183 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,145 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,183 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
safeinOhio
(32,674 posts)Be a great picture of Mid-West voters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Evolve Dammit
(16,725 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
William769
(55,145 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Evolve Dammit
(16,725 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
greatauntoftriplets
(175,733 posts)I'll be happy to see it end (hopefully). After three years of Spanky, we need some normalcy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
madaboutharry
(40,209 posts)Hello friend.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
greatauntoftriplets
(175,733 posts)I'm sorry about Mayor Pete.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,145 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
greatauntoftriplets
(175,733 posts)As is my original choice, Kamala Harris.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,145 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
greatauntoftriplets
(175,733 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
madaboutharry
(40,209 posts)Pete went on The Today Show this morning and said that neither he nor Amy were forced out by "The Establishment." Pete said after South Carolina he saw he had no path and made his own decision to drop out of the race.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
trof
(54,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,145 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)To lose something, one has to possess it in the first place.
His lack of integrity was always evident to some of us ... but now, the whole country has seen it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Stuart G
(38,420 posts)DT has NO INTEGRITY ...no, no..I won't spell out that name..
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,145 posts)God willing & the creek don't rise, He's toast!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CaptainTruth
(6,589 posts)Just today I saw another misleading Bernie tweet attacking Biden.
I'm sick of it. He's driven me away from him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
KPN
(15,643 posts)say it?
Theres a virtual feeding frenzy going on. Someone had to ...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
William769
(55,145 posts)People like responding to truth.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
c-rational
(2,592 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,145 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)are most apparent by how they act when they lose. Hillary after losing to Obama. Pete and Amy after seeing no path after SC. Even Bloomberg, when he dropped out, wasn't bitter and hateful. Let's see how this plays out, but I think we know what's coming after the 2016 convention.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
grantcart
(53,061 posts)The implosion of Sanderism has been breath taking
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PJMcK
(22,034 posts)Nearly every response is from a Biden supporter.
I think I saw 2 Undecideds and 1 Sanders supporter.
I don't disagree with your point. It's just odd when there isn't any dissent. It feels too much like an echo chamber.
Bottom line is that Sanders was never going to be the Democratic nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,145 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PJMcK
(22,034 posts)My observation was without expressing a perspective. Well, except for my last sentence.
Your OP was fine. As I wrote, it simply felt weird.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
azureblue
(2,146 posts)people claiming to be his supporters? There are proven trolls claiming to be Sanders supporters, trying to spread FUD. And people who take the spewing of trolls as fact so they can then try to validate why they won't vote for Sanders.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
William769
(55,145 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(49,379 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TwilightZone
(25,468 posts)"But theres a specific group of Sanders fans that pose a real problem for him."
Article from Vox on the subject: https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287651619
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,307 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dawn5651
(603 posts)against clinton...and it is happening right before our eyes...he is a very sore loser...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jrthin
(4,835 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Rainbow Droid
(722 posts)And he needs to drop out after the crushing losses coming today and he also absolutely must endorse Biden.
Unity behind shared, basic American values is how we're going to win this year, and Bernie shares those values.
He can still make a valuable contribution going forward, he just can't become President.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NNadir
(33,515 posts)...there is plenty of evidence in the White House that a lack of integrity has no bearing on the outcome of elections.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TomCADem
(17,387 posts)Bernie is not going to change. He will go through the motions of supporting Biden, but his campaign is filled with folks whose mission is to attack is to attack the Democratic party.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dalton99a
(81,466 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,145 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
peggysue2
(10,828 posts)When Biden slumped, his campaign marked as DOA (multiple times), we did not hear the scathing attacks, the disinformation and/or insults hurled at the opposition. Defense, yes; angry attacks, no. In fact, after his defeat in Iowa, Biden admitted it was a 'punch to the gut.'
There's a difference in character we're being exposed to during this campaign. Biden brings people into the tent, embraces former opponents.
The other side?
Well, I leave that up to the interpretation of others.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,145 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lambchopp59
(2,809 posts)There's tremendous frustration to overcome with empathy, not with bashing the integrity of those who aren't completely in line with a point of view. I'm saddened that more progressive candidates are dropping out, as fighting for the economically disadvantaged is so essential after the R's get done with their economic wrecking ball, even when progress can only be incremental with this congress.
I don't want to hear any more "centrist" garbage about "working across the isle" in such a surgical-emergency obstructionist, greedy, self-centered and pathetic congressional quagmire as we continue to tolerate.
We certainly don't need to lose financially struggling independent voters this round. I agree Sanders has pulled some alienating gaffes.
Even those who do everything right, honestly and with tremendous integrity can lose, and it hurts tremendously to see that effort totally fail. Kamala Harris' campaign is one I hope returns for another round.
Calling out the integrity of those having a tantrum because they didn't get their unicorn is likely counterproductive at this point.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DIVINEprividence
(443 posts)It seems to me he has this locked up. He should focus 100% on Trump and either ignore or be super duper nice to him. The later the wiser course at this point. If you have achieved victory why stir up the hornets nest? Kill em with kindness as they say.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,307 posts)Bernie is not entitled to the nomination. He had to earn it. Thus far, he has not.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden