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brooklynite

(94,513 posts)
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 09:13 AM Mar 2020

Sanders knocks Biden over short speeches

Politico

Bernie Sanders on Monday evening confronted head-on questions regarding Joe Biden’s fitness for the presidency — declining to directly attack his rival’s stamina, but suggesting that brief speeches last week by Biden on the campaign trail were insufficient to address the nation’s problems.

The remarks from the Vermont senator targeting the former vice president came at a Fox News town hall for Sanders, where a participant charged that Biden’s answers “don't make sense” and asked Sanders whether it was “acceptable” for a White House hopeful to answer questions “like Joe Biden does?”

Sanders said that when his campaign conducts events and rallies, “we respect people in a sense that we give really substantive — these guys will think maybe too long-winded answers,” he said, gesturing to the forum’s moderators.

“There are real crises facing this country. When I give a speech, often it’s 45 minutes or an hour, OK? Because there are a lot of challenges that the country faces, and I’ve got to talk about them,” Sanders continued, before launching into a critique of Biden.


Fidel Castro always likes long speeches...
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Sanders knocks Biden over short speeches (Original Post) brooklynite Mar 2020 OP
I prefer QUALITY over QUANTITY. That applies to words as well. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #1
Sanders has given the same basic speech over and over and over hundreds of times.. honest.abe Mar 2020 #2
+1,000,000 oasis Mar 2020 #10
+1 William769 Mar 2020 #17
Honestly, does anyone need to hear Sanders' same ole, same ole 45 min-hour speech AGAIN? Happy Hoosier Mar 2020 #3
Fucking 80 yr old who just had a heart attack and won't release medical records says what?!? MrsCoffee Mar 2020 #4
Spring is coming. Bernie has 3 yards to mow. n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #12
i for one walk away from speeches an hr long... samnsara Mar 2020 #5
It's a matter of quality mindem Mar 2020 #6
Nowadays no one will pay attention to a longer speech treestar Mar 2020 #7
If long is better, then Trump should win the gold prize. patricia92243 Mar 2020 #8
+1 spooky3 Mar 2020 #31
He's in no position to question other people's health and fitness gollygee Mar 2020 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Mar 2020 #11
Well, Bernie has been giving the same speech awesomerwb1 Mar 2020 #13
The only thing he's doing is making his point Butterflylady Mar 2020 #14
JFK's inaugural address was 14 minutes onenote Mar 2020 #15
+1 Docreed2003 Mar 2020 #30
The Gettysburg Address was also preceded by a two hour speech by Rev. Eduard Everett Amishman Mar 2020 #39
You should go online and spread these facts around. Blue_true Mar 2020 #42
Any politician knows we need speeches that have intermissions dalton99a Mar 2020 #16
Interesting factoid! Maybe that's the record Bernie is trying to break. After all, didn't he onetexan Mar 2020 #27
"And, besides that," Sanders said, MineralMan Mar 2020 #18
Oh good grief! SunsetDreams2 Mar 2020 #19
Bet he'd have really criticized Lincoln for short Gettysburg Address!! bobbieinok Mar 2020 #20
Perhaps he longs for those long speeches that Castro used to give ? OnDoutside Mar 2020 #21
Biden, unlike Sanders, seems to know people have short attention spans Moderateguy Mar 2020 #22
Maybe with shorter speeches, Joe Lulu KC Mar 2020 #23
"I won't question his mental state" Dem2 Mar 2020 #24
We don't need another size-queen in office Politicub Mar 2020 #25
LOL substance over subterfuge, Bernie onetexan Mar 2020 #26
Long speeches help distribute coronavirus. Cancel these rallies -- use video instead. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2020 #28
Sanders knocks Biden over being right-handed instead of left. RandySF Mar 2020 #29
I care more about accomplishments than speeches. Nt spooky3 Mar 2020 #32
Preachers are taught True Blue American Mar 2020 #33
In Sanders FB groups that I am a member of they've been floating ads to highlight Joe's stutter. apnu Mar 2020 #34
Yeah, like Fox News viewers really care about a POTUS answering questions BidenBacker Mar 2020 #35
Ideologues love to hear themselves drone on for hours and hours beachbumbob Mar 2020 #36
Bernie likes the sound of his own voice. Biden is a doer, not a talker. nt Kahuna7 Mar 2020 #37
Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #38
Well, Bernie does like Fidel Castro, a man known for giving day long speeches. nt Blue_true Mar 2020 #40
Okay vercetti2021 Mar 2020 #41
That's all Sanders has now? Effing FOX News & an audience question like that? Hekate Mar 2020 #43
To be honest though MyNameGoesHere Mar 2020 #44
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
1. I prefer QUALITY over QUANTITY. That applies to words as well.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 09:14 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
2. Sanders has given the same basic speech over and over and over hundreds of times..
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 09:19 AM
Mar 2020

and cant seem to expand outside his standard comfort zone issues.

Could that be some sort of mental decline issue??

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Happy Hoosier

(7,295 posts)
3. Honestly, does anyone need to hear Sanders' same ole, same ole 45 min-hour speech AGAIN?
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 09:22 AM
Mar 2020

No one is learning anything new at these rallies. They are RALLIES, not lectures.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
4. Fucking 80 yr old who just had a heart attack and won't release medical records says what?!?
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 09:27 AM
Mar 2020

No one wants to be scolded for 45 minutes to an hour. That’s why Sanders numbers are underwater. Nothing but nasty divisiveness on repeat.

Just go home Bernie. Spend some quality time with family while you can.

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primary today, I would vote for:
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zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
12. Spring is coming. Bernie has 3 yards to mow. n/t
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 09:41 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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samnsara

(17,622 posts)
5. i for one walk away from speeches an hr long...
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 09:27 AM
Mar 2020

..i dont need to be hit over the head with a long winded account of what i am doing wrong...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mindem

(1,580 posts)
6. It's a matter of quality
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 09:28 AM
Mar 2020

not quantity. Sanders and his minions really need to give it a rest.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

treestar

(82,383 posts)
7. Nowadays no one will pay attention to a longer speech
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 09:29 AM
Mar 2020

At least not for the entire thing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

patricia92243

(12,595 posts)
8. If long is better, then Trump should win the gold prize.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 09:33 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
9. He's in no position to question other people's health and fitness
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 09:35 AM
Mar 2020

But he's predictably negative.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

 

awesomerwb1

(4,267 posts)
13. Well, Bernie has been giving the same speech
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 09:50 AM
Mar 2020

for years now. It's laughable longer speeches = better.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Butterflylady

(3,543 posts)
14. The only thing he's doing is making his point
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 09:51 AM
Mar 2020

And then regurgitating it over and over. As for me, I don't care for long speeches. Get to the point or points and done.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

onenote

(42,700 posts)
15. JFK's inaugural address was 14 minutes
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 09:54 AM
Mar 2020

Obama’s 2004 convention speech was 17 minutes


The Gettysburg Address was around three.

No one is going to remember anything from Bernies stump speeches

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
30. +1
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:45 AM
Mar 2020

Spot on. Bernie's stump speech is only memorable in the sense that it's the same speech he's been giving for five years!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
39. The Gettysburg Address was also preceded by a two hour speech by Rev. Eduard Everett
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 12:30 PM
Mar 2020

which was over 16000 words, which no one remembers.

Lincolns speech was under 300 words, and is iconic.

Saying more with less is a gift.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
42. You should go online and spread these facts around.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 01:38 PM
Mar 2020

Facebook, Twitter, ect. This is the type of good information that need to be in those places.

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Joe Biden
 

dalton99a

(81,468 posts)
16. Any politician knows we need speeches that have intermissions
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 09:55 AM
Mar 2020
Castro holds the Guinness Book of Records title for the longest speech ever delivered at the United Nations: 4 hours and 29 minutes, on Sept. 29, 1960. His longest speech on record in Cuba was 7 hours and 10 minutes in 1986 at the III Communist Party Congress in Havana.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

onetexan

(13,037 posts)
27. Interesting factoid! Maybe that's the record Bernie is trying to break. After all, didn't he
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:38 AM
Mar 2020

compliment this tinpot dictator?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
18. "And, besides that," Sanders said,
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:08 AM
Mar 2020

"Joe Biden does not gesticulate enough in his speeches. Without hand waving and finger pointing, how can he get his message across, after all?"

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
20. Bet he'd have really criticized Lincoln for short Gettysburg Address!!
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:26 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
21. Perhaps he longs for those long speeches that Castro used to give ?
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:28 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Moderateguy

(945 posts)
22. Biden, unlike Sanders, seems to know people have short attention spans
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:59 AM
Mar 2020

Most people stop caring about what you have to say if you drone on

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Lulu KC

(2,565 posts)
23. Maybe with shorter speeches, Joe
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:30 AM
Mar 2020

can actually go where he says he's going to go. Such as Kansas City, which Bernie cancelled.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
24. "I won't question his mental state"
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:33 AM
Mar 2020

..."or will I...?"

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
25. We don't need another size-queen in office
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:33 AM
Mar 2020

I'm gay so I can say that. Deal with it or laugh at it. I don't care. Or better yet, imagine that you are part of my circle of cattiest gay friends and we are chatting and enjoying a nice bottle of wine.

I'm tired of comparing the length of this to the length of that. Whatever.

What a useless observation from Bernie -- and from a town hall on Fox News nonetheless.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

onetexan

(13,037 posts)
26. LOL substance over subterfuge, Bernie
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:35 AM
Mar 2020

Joe's well-writtened, well-timed speeches are DA BOMB - full of substance and issues ordinary Americans grapple with everyday.
Bernie is grasping at straws as usual. I'd rather watch a substantive 7-minute speech than a long rant containing nonsensical ideas by a finger-wagging grumpy uncle.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,331 posts)
28. Long speeches help distribute coronavirus. Cancel these rallies -- use video instead.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:39 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RandySF

(58,786 posts)
29. Sanders knocks Biden over being right-handed instead of left.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:41 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

spooky3

(34,442 posts)
32. I care more about accomplishments than speeches. Nt
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:47 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
33. Preachers are taught
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:48 AM
Mar 2020

In the Seminary to keep their Sermons short, 20 to 25 minutes,at the most. After that you lose people’s attention. Maybe Joe knows that! Just sayin’!

Pence is speaking right now. You can tell Trump is not listening to a word he says. Dead Eye Dick.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

apnu

(8,756 posts)
34. In Sanders FB groups that I am a member of they've been floating ads to highlight Joe's stutter.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:50 AM
Mar 2020

I shit you not. The US Democratic Socialists group had a whole discussion about it, most thought it was a great idea. They even went so far as to say they were doing Joe a favor, that by going negative about Joe's speech now is better than Trump doing it in the G.E.

These are the good guys? If this is where they are at, that means they have nothing left to say. Their argument and movement is out of gas, both in enthusiasm and intellectualism.

I consider myself a progressive, but this disgusts me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BidenBacker

(1,089 posts)
35. Yeah, like Fox News viewers really care about a POTUS answering questions
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 11:56 AM
Mar 2020

They voted for a guy who yells unintelligible gibberish in response to questions on the White House lawn over the roar of Marine One and whose administration hasn't held a press briefing in over a year.

But dammit, Biden's answers are just too damn short!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
36. Ideologues love to hear themselves drone on for hours and hours
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 12:00 PM
Mar 2020

as if that means anything positive

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
37. Bernie likes the sound of his own voice. Biden is a doer, not a talker. nt
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 12:13 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
40. Well, Bernie does like Fidel Castro, a man known for giving day long speeches. nt
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 01:35 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

vercetti2021

(10,156 posts)
41. Okay
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 01:37 PM
Mar 2020

And I don't want to hear speeches that are the same crap since 2015. Yeah goes both ways Bern.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hekate

(90,662 posts)
43. That's all Sanders has now? Effing FOX News & an audience question like that?
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 01:57 PM
Mar 2020

Please spare me....

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
44. To be honest though
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 05:26 PM
Mar 2020

I could and sometimes still listen to a two hour Fidel speech and be amused, thoughtful and intrigued. The Independent Senator from Vermont does none of that for me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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