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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

TheSocialDem

(191 posts)
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:13 PM Mar 2020

Alright, so in the instance this doesn't pan out

I can already see the blame being laid on the group or Bernie supporters that didn’t go for Biden.

Let me just say, obviously, I’ll vote for the nominee. So I’m not a ‘take my ball and go home Bernie Bro’ (of which I’ve actually never met any).

But support is being given to Biden it seems, with the simultaneous acknowledgment, and point of criticism, that a segment of his supporters will indeed not support Biden, or anyone else.

I’m of the option that to win the GE we will need to win by at least 10%, probably more like 15%-20%, given all the GOP election ratfucking.

So Lets be clear the ‘Bernie or nobody else’ people are not democrats.. and Biden will need to win this election by earning all the votes he can, and overcoming a GOP slanted election system.

I hope I’m just being overly pessimistic. And I’ll get as many people As I can out to vote for Biden if he’s the guy.

I’m just saying, I’m getting flashbacks of 2016.

Looking forward to being proved wrong

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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Alright, so in the instance this doesn't pan out (Original Post) TheSocialDem Mar 2020 OP
It's looking like Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #1
The voters have spoken. HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #2
As with any heated primary season BlueIdaho Mar 2020 #3
Ok, Joe... you've got the nomination TDale313 Mar 2020 #4
Ive never failed to vote for our nominee in 40 years. CentralMass Mar 2020 #5
The Key Is Will Bernie's Campaign Try To Sabotage Democrats Again? TomCADem Mar 2020 #6
This nt showblue22 Mar 2020 #8
2016 and 2020 are nothing alike. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #7
Don't kid yourself Awsi Dooger Mar 2020 #15
Nope. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #16
They're talking about huge increases in turnout frazzled Mar 2020 #9
Enough Bernie supporters will vote for Biden for him to win. Blue_true Mar 2020 #10
Yes, Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #14
I'm not worried relayerbob Mar 2020 #11
Bernie and Warren can concentrate on energizing their base for changing Congress MoonlitKnight Mar 2020 #12
This is not about Biden. It is about a blue wave. It is about the voter doing the job. Not Biden. LizBeth Mar 2020 #13
 

Turin_C3PO

(13,975 posts)
1. It's looking like
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:15 PM
Mar 2020

Biden will have a broad coalition. IMO, he’ll have the Obama coalition AND a good chunk of working class whites. I predict Trump gets trounced.

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BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
3. As with any heated primary season
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:20 PM
Mar 2020

The party will need to heal and unite. That will take all of us and most importantly, it will both Senator Sanders and VP Biden showing the way to our better angels.

Vote Blue. Period.

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TDale313

(7,820 posts)
4. Ok, Joe... you've got the nomination
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:22 PM
Mar 2020

Trump appears in full meltdown, outside events are showing just how incompetent he is... just... please... please... Don’t. Screw. This. Up. Show those of us that had concerns about in the Primaries that you’ve got this.

And yes, proudly voting blue.

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CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
5. Ive never failed to vote for our nominee in 40 years.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:22 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
6. The Key Is Will Bernie's Campaign Try To Sabotage Democrats Again?
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:22 PM
Mar 2020

For example, will Bernie's campaign surrogates all start to announce that they are either not voting, supporting the Green Party, or supporting Trump? Likewise, will Bernie's supporters start booing black speakers at the DNC convention? Tell me the answer to this, and I will tell you if this is a repeat of 2016.

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TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
7. 2016 and 2020 are nothing alike.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:23 PM
Mar 2020

Biden has a broad coalition and the country has had three-plus years to see what kind of disaster Trump is. There will likely be little or no tolerance for the kind of nonsense that happened at the convention last year, and the Democrats will come out of it looking unity and ready for November.

It will still come down to the electoral college, but Biden looks stronger in swing states, stronger in overall approval, stronger with Independents and clearly has the ability to bring out voters, as evidenced by the primaries.

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Joe Biden
 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
15. Don't kid yourself
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:54 PM
Mar 2020

Trump is in far stronger position in 2020 than he ever was in 2016. In 2016 he needed the Comey fluke and had a 38/60 favorable/unfavorable rating in the election day exit poll. In 2020 I guarantee that will be much closer to parity.

Incumbency is a surreal advantage. Trump can only lose. We cannot defeat him. The outcome is solely dictated by Trump's approval rating in early November.

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TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
16. Nope.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:57 PM
Mar 2020

The outcome is primarily dictated by turnout, just like 2018 was. That midterm was decidedly about Trump, we ran on the issues, and his approval ratings were no lower then than they are now. Repeat.

"We cannot defeat him."

Bullshit.

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frazzled

(18,402 posts)
9. They're talking about huge increases in turnout
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:28 PM
Mar 2020

Especially in Michigan, where suburban voters, especially women, are voting for Biden. This is the same group, together with African Americans that led us to the blue wave midterms in 2018.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
10. Enough Bernie supporters will vote for Biden for him to win.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:35 PM
Mar 2020

A much bigger issue is keeping African Americans at the lead of the effort to defeat Trump. In the 2016 General , about 1 million African Americans, my guess mostly concentrated in critical states, didn't vote, some of those states went against us.

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Turin_C3PO

(13,975 posts)
14. Yes,
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:42 PM
Mar 2020

African American turnout was lower in Philly, Detroit, and Milwaukee which are all located in swing states. If they come out in force for a Biden, it’s over for Trump.

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relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
11. I'm not worried
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:36 PM
Mar 2020

People want decency, stability, competence and experience to guide us through major crises. That's why Biden can win with zero effort. He has those qualities in spades. This is not an indictment of Sanders, just a political fact right now, and both parties and independents actually want this. Only a small number in the country care about policy as a primary issue, because without winning nothing is possible Few actually have any interest into the perceived chaos of a "revolution". Also, everyone chattering on the Internet comprises a very small percentage of the populace as a whole. Finally, most supporters people believe Biden will be open to what he is given by a Democratic Congress.

I have gone from thinking that Trump had an 80% chance of winning, to Biden taking the Presidency in a landslide.

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MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
12. Bernie and Warren can concentrate on energizing their base for changing Congress
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:39 PM
Mar 2020

While supplying up ballot support.

Joe and team will help down ballot.

Let’s all ride the blue wave.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
13. This is not about Biden. It is about a blue wave. It is about the voter doing the job. Not Biden.
Tue Mar 10, 2020, 10:41 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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