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nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 06:29 PM Mar 2020

Politico: 'There's no playbook for this': Biden trapped in campaign limbo

With Bernie refusing to drop out or even agree to joint fundraising, the DNC isn't able to effectively prepare a war chest against Trump:

A source familiar with the Democratic National Committee’s discussions says the party offered both the Biden and Sanders campaigns the opportunity to open joint-fundraising accounts. But since Sanders declined, the party is reluctant to enter into one with Biden because of the bad optics of seeming to help one candidate.


Politico: ‘There’s no playbook for this’: Biden trapped in campaign limbo
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Politico: 'There's no playbook for this': Biden trapped in campaign limbo (Original Post) nolawarlock Mar 2020 OP
Sanders needs to drop out so there is clear opposition to Trump's poor crisis management. It will Doodley Mar 2020 #1
Just collect the money. Sanders will drop or be booted eventually. Tetrachloride Mar 2020 #2
No kidding. Move on as if Sanders is out LakeArenal Mar 2020 #5
I've got a great idea: Tell Bernie Sanders to go fuck himself and fund Biden's campaign. NBachers Mar 2020 #3
+1... SidDithers Mar 2020 #8
LOL! Exactly! IluvPitties Mar 2020 #18
we've seen bernie's track record. nothing surprising about this nt msongs Mar 2020 #4
Exactly. We saw this developing last spring. Anyone who paid attention to Sanders' Blue_true Mar 2020 #14
Bernie needs to get out. cwydro Mar 2020 #6
yes, there is. 2016. Burnie helping Trump again. robbedvoter Mar 2020 #7
A real Democrat with loyalty to the party would have dropped out by now. NCProgressive Mar 2020 #9
A Real Leader Who Cared For the American People... TomCADem Mar 2020 #11
+++++ and NCProgressive Mar 2020 #16
Bernie is in it to promote Bernie Sanders. IluvPitties Mar 2020 #19
In the midterms of 1938... wyldwolf Mar 2020 #10
What I think is going to happen is a severe backlash against Blue_true Mar 2020 #15
+1 nolawarlock Mar 2020 #22
WHAT?! WTH! Cha Mar 2020 #12
After March 3rd, Sanders backers said give him Michigan to turn thing around. Blue_true Mar 2020 #13
Which is exactly what they want. n/t nolawarlock Mar 2020 #21
Seems Marc Caputo is trying to make a mountain out of a mole hole. LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #17
It is in limbo and it is hurting down ballot and preventing fund raising...Sanders should stop being Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #20
Joe Biden debuts his in home TV studio Gothmog Mar 2020 #23
At this point, what else can it be called but sabotage? tritsofme Mar 2020 #24
It'll just get worse, as states delay their primaries. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2020 #25
The candidates sign and agreement, whereby they raise money for down-ticket races, KitSileya Mar 2020 #29
It's Simple...Ignore BS Me. Mar 2020 #26
I agree. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #27
Here is Joe's new studio Gothmog Mar 2020 #28
So just...ignore him? Tarc Mar 2020 #30
 

Doodley

(9,175 posts)
1. Sanders needs to drop out so there is clear opposition to Trump's poor crisis management. It will
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 06:32 PM
Mar 2020

save lives.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Tetrachloride

(7,898 posts)
2. Just collect the money. Sanders will drop or be booted eventually.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 06:33 PM
Mar 2020

Besides, Sanders is not a "Democratic party member."

and give the money to down-ballot states and or candidates. Kentucky for example.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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LakeArenal

(28,865 posts)
5. No kidding. Move on as if Sanders is out
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 06:34 PM
Mar 2020

Let Sanders complain. Sore losers gonna sore.

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NBachers

(17,184 posts)
3. I've got a great idea: Tell Bernie Sanders to go fuck himself and fund Biden's campaign.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 06:33 PM
Mar 2020

Oooo Oooo Oooo the Biden supporters are being so cruel to poor Bernie!

*Alert*Alert*Alert*

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msongs

(67,493 posts)
4. we've seen bernie's track record. nothing surprising about this nt
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 06:33 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
14. Exactly. We saw this developing last spring. Anyone who paid attention to Sanders'
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 08:07 PM
Mar 2020

behavior saw clear signs on where we are now.

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cwydro

(51,308 posts)
6. Bernie needs to get out.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 06:58 PM
Mar 2020

He’s done this before, so we all know what he’s up to.

Please let the DNC make a statement on this.

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robbedvoter

(28,290 posts)
7. yes, there is. 2016. Burnie helping Trump again.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 07:00 PM
Mar 2020

Same 💩. Actually, slightly ≠: Bunie got the agreement last time, but raised zero for down ticket. How many ways can this guy 🔩 us before we acknowledge it?

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NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
9. A real Democrat with loyalty to the party would have dropped out by now.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 07:12 PM
Mar 2020

It was a colossal mistake to let him run as a Democrat.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
11. A Real Leader Who Cared For the American People...
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 07:39 PM
Mar 2020

...rather than his own selfish political ambitions would be part of the movement to beat Donald Trump. However, it is increasingly clear that if Bernie cannot be the nominee, he wants to hobble Democrats as payback. He can be as petty and vindictive as Donald Trump. Narcissism is not restricted to Republicans.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
16. +++++ and
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:21 PM
Mar 2020

I hope his supporters would see it one day

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IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
19. Bernie is in it to promote Bernie Sanders.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 12:29 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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wyldwolf

(43,873 posts)
10. In the midterms of 1938...
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 07:15 PM
Mar 2020

...after "progressive" candidates lost their asses, FDR said “We have on the positive side eliminated Phil La Follette and the Farmer-Labor people in the Northwest as a standing Third Party Threat.”

This is kind of how I feel about the Bernie "revolution" right now. His actions will set back his and future movements like his.

Elizabeth Warren had it right. The Augean Stables get cleaned out from the inside, not from the outside.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
15. What I think is going to happen is a severe backlash against
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 08:17 PM
Mar 2020

Last edited Sun Mar 22, 2020, 07:08 PM - Edit history (1)

Sanders and everything he claims he is in remaining primaries. The majority of democrats want him out so that Biden can get on with the business of facing Trump. If Sanders doesn't drop out, I predict that Wisconsin, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island voters batter him when those primaries are held. He is going to see South Carolina, Florida, Mississippi losing margins in states where he was once favored.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
13. After March 3rd, Sanders backers said give him Michigan to turn thing around.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 08:02 PM
Mar 2020

After Sanders was trounced in Michigan and all but one March 10th primary, his backers said give him a one on one debate with Joe Biden and then the March 17th primaries. After Sanders was crushed in the debate and the March 17 primaries, his supporters have no legitament justification for prolonging this primary, other than to cause anarchy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
21. Which is exactly what they want. n/t
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 12:39 AM
Mar 2020
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LiberalFighter

(51,290 posts)
17. Seems Marc Caputo is trying to make a mountain out of a mole hole.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 11:44 PM
Mar 2020

I don't see Biden's campaign being in limbo.

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Demsrule86

(68,775 posts)
20. It is in limbo and it is hurting down ballot and preventing fund raising...Sanders should stop being
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 12:30 AM
Mar 2020

an obstacle to beating Trump.

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Gothmog

(145,829 posts)
23. Joe Biden debuts his in home TV studio
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 02:59 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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tritsofme

(17,429 posts)
24. At this point, what else can it be called but sabotage?
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:05 PM
Mar 2020
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JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,378 posts)
25. It'll just get worse, as states delay their primaries.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:00 PM
Mar 2020

Understood, coronavirus and all that, but the inevitable delegate majority for Biden is just being delayed, pushed closer to the convention. Assuming, of course, that the convention date is not moving, yet.

If the convention is held on schedule, there's still plenty of time to re-kindle the Biden machine to compete with the Repubs.

There's nothing preventing the DNC from collecting money now, and using it for competitive House and Senate seats, and for Governors' mansions.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
29. The candidates sign and agreement, whereby they raise money for down-ticket races,
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 06:31 AM
Mar 2020

but it's the nominee or the presumptive nominee that gets to release the funds, because when they become the presumptive nominee, they become the de fact leaders of the party. In 2016, that was a huge issue because of Senator Sanders conceding so late, and he refused to fundraise for down-ticket races in general to boot. He only fundraised for a select few candidates whom he deemed pure enough, and who had endorsed him. That is part of the reason why 2018 was a much more successful election down-ticket than 2016, though not the only reason, of course.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Me.

(35,454 posts)
26. It's Simple...Ignore BS
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:12 PM
Mar 2020

And move on. It's time to stop being afraid of 'optics'. If we don't we'll have 4 more years.

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Turin_C3PO

(14,130 posts)
27. I agree.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 05:15 PM
Mar 2020

And I’m now for Obama coming out and endorsing Biden. At first, I was thinking he should wait until we have a nominee, but no more. Of course, it’s his decision and I’ll respect whatever path he takes.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Gothmog

(145,829 posts)
28. Here is Joe's new studio
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 01:17 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Tarc

(10,478 posts)
30. So just...ignore him?
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:26 AM
Mar 2020

There's no reason to spend another dime on anti-Sanders advertising, just focus on Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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