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Rhiannon12866

(250,636 posts)
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 11:52 PM 2 hrs ago

Chris Hayes' map-based theory behind Trump's Greenland obsession - All In - MS NOW



Chris Hayes argues that Trump’s fixation on owning Greenland is driven by ego, distorted maps, and a willingness to risk a historic geopolitical crisis. - Aired on 01/14/2026.
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Chris Hayes' map-based theory behind Trump's Greenland obsession - All In - MS NOW (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 2 hrs ago OP
As almost always in this term lapfog_1 2 hrs ago #1
Thanks! Great find! Rhiannon12866 2 hrs ago #2
Thanks, never saw this before ! eppur_se_muova 1 hr ago #5
The Mercator Projection may have led some in the CIA and Kennedy Admin. to underestimate the challenge of ... eppur_se_muova 1 hr ago #3
Yikes, good point! Thanks so much for putting this in perspective... Rhiannon12866 1 hr ago #4
I don't think Uncle Joe 1 hr ago #6
I sure hope not, Good Grief! Denmark, Europe and our former allies sound like they're gearing up for war Rhiannon12866 1 hr ago #7

eppur_se_muova

(41,048 posts)
5. Thanks, never saw this before !
Thu Jan 15, 2026, 12:30 AM
1 hr ago

(There are several better projections than Mercator, all w/pluses and minuses. I like Dymaxion because of other points Fuller made -- no "right side up", map can be rearranged to have landmass or oceans in the center. The best Dymaxion map should be in the form of tiles which can be moved around in two dimensions.)

eppur_se_muova

(41,048 posts)
3. The Mercator Projection may have led some in the CIA and Kennedy Admin. to underestimate the challenge of ...
Thu Jan 15, 2026, 12:19 AM
1 hr ago

Invading and conquering Cuba. A military officer giving briefings on the topic found that many in his audiences were unaware of the distortion.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dymaxion_map

The numbers rank countries by size, in geographic area: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_area#Countries_and_dependencies_by_area

Uncle Joe

(64,289 posts)
6. I don't think
Thu Jan 15, 2026, 12:52 AM
1 hr ago

he will go in militarily, we're already there anyway.

*rump and/or his oligarch backers, (probably Musk for one) will put the camel's nose under Greenland's tent politically corrupting their system to create a separation movement from Denmark.

I saw the first crack beginning at the 7:15 mark, *he starts out well but then says "We can take the money use it in our own way but we will not change our mind," that's the path down the rabbit hole.

It might just be a cosmic coincidence but his choice of headgear does remind me of a MAGA hat.

Thanks for the thread Rhiannon

Rhiannon12866

(250,636 posts)
7. I sure hope not, Good Grief! Denmark, Europe and our former allies sound like they're gearing up for war
Thu Jan 15, 2026, 12:59 AM
1 hr ago

Only this time the U.S. would be on the wrong side!

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