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AndyS's Journal
AndyS's Journal
July 10, 2021

Sometimes I just get tired of the convoluted mind fuckery and mental masturbation.

When it comes to guns you have to admire the ability and diligence it takes to deflect from the subject at hand to some nebulous non relevant bullshitty other thing.

In the case of Sandy Hook families vs Remington for the slaughter of 20 six year old children and 6 of their care takers the gunners realized that it's kinda' hard to attack the parents. I mean, really. Your child has been riddled with bullets from a military grade weapon but somehow you, as a gunner, have to come up with a way to make their attempt at redress against a gun maker into something other than unending and unrelenting grief. That's a tough job, but by God as a gunner you're up to it!

So how do you distract from the fact that in five minutes 500 bullets were fired into the bodies of 26 little kids and their teachers? You make it about the greed of the lawyers representing the parents not about the atrocity, that's how. The gunner's answer is to TRY to elicit sympathy for the parents because the LAWYERS are abusing them by taking a frivolous case for the sake of running up huge legal bills that will accrue to the poor victims when they lose the hopeless case against the rights that God gave to guns. See, it isn't about guns and the misery they cause, it's about filthy lawyers!

This flies in the face of the FACT that the parents hired the attorneys, not the other way 'round. It denies the possibility of the attorneys taking the case on contingency which is not a part of public record. It denies all that is decent in humanity.

This is a specious, simplistic and cynical position to take and I will call you out on it every time you repeat this slimy pile of fetid offal propagated by an unfeeling uncaring industry and it's priests and acolytes.

July 10, 2021

Judge rules that synagogue shooting victims can sue gunmaker

A California judge decided victims of a 2019 synagogue shooting near San Diego that killed one worshiper and wounded three can sue the manufacturer of the semiautomatic rifle and the gun shop that sold it to the teenage gunman, according to a newspaper report.

Superior Court Judge Kenneth Medel said Wednesday that victims and families in the Poway, California, synagogue shooting have adequately alleged that Smith & Wesson, the nation's largest gunmaker, knew its AR-15-style rifle could be easily modified into a machine-gun-like or an assault weapon in violation of state law.

A 2005 federal law shields gunmakers from damages in most cases for crimes committed with their weapons. But it allows lawsuits if the manufacturer was negligent or knowingly violated a state or federal law, the San Francisco Chronicle reported Thursday.
Medel said the plaintiffs in the synagogue shooting case may also be able to sue on their claims that Smith & Wesson negligently marketed the rifle to youths on social media and video game-style ads, the newspaper said.

The judge also said the shop, San Diego Guns, could be sued for selling the weapon to John Earnest, who was 19 and lacked a hunting license that would have exempted him from California's 21-year minimum age for owning long guns.


There is something inherently wrong with a society in which the headline isn't about the civil and legal recourse awarded to victims of a mass shooting AFFORDED BY LAW but about the ABILITY OF THE VICTIMS TO SEEK IT.


When will we call out those who willfully seek to allow the status quo to continue for the profit of an industry dedicated to death and misery?
July 6, 2021

Data Point

More than 10,000 — the number of fatal shootings in 2021 so far, approximating an average of 55 gun deaths every day and currently pacing higher than last year’s historic spike.
July 6, 2021

Fourth of July weekend again brings hundreds of shootings

Fourth of July weekend again brings hundreds of shootings. The holiday weekend saw more than 500 shootings nationwide, including nearly 200 people killed and over 550 injured in a 72-hour period starting on July 3, according to the Gun Violence Archive. The violence included several high-casualty mass shootings across the country, including 12 people shot, one fatally, in Toledo, Ohio; 8 people injured in Fort Worth, Texas; and 9 people shot, two fatally, in North Las Vegas, Nevada. Chicago reported that at least 95 people were shot, including two police officers. Oakland’s police chief characterized the holiday as “12 hours of nonstop chaos,” blaming celebratory gunfire for most of the shootings in the city.


Is there really anything I can add other than What is wrong with us?
July 6, 2021

Please, someone, explain this to me.

In 2014 General Motors produced cars that had a defective ignition switch. That resulted in 124 deaths. It also resulted in the recall of 30 million cars worldwide, $900 million in fines plus civil settlements to those harmed by death or injury.

Every year about 150 people are killed or injured by negligent or accidental discharges of firearms*. That's when a gun 'goes off' without intent by the person holding that gun. Every year. As a result there have been no recalls of firearms, no fines and no settlements due to legal actions against firearms companies.

Every time some definable issue with an automobile, or any other consumer product, is discovered be it a defect or just current manufacturing practices immediate governmental recalls are made and the problem corrected. Not with guns. Guns are still manufactured to the same standards they were in the mid 1800s. Only a gun manufacturer can voluntarily initiate a recall of it's product. In addition, gun manufacturers, distributors, importers and sellers are protected by the Protection of Legal Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA) that restricts civil recourse against any of these entities to very narrow and specific conditions.

Just about every one of these 150 deaths or injuries could be prevented with current proven technology. Referred to as Smart Gun technology it can prevent a firearm from being operated by any other than the one authorized to use it. It isn't expensive, adding perhaps $25 to the cost of the firearm and it is absolutely reliable in every conceivable situation. Yet the gun industry vehemently resists adoption and marketing of such technology to the point of death threats to any dealer who offers it to customers. In fact there is not even a requirement for a mechanical safety device on guns**.

What is wrong with us?

*I say 'about' because there aren't any compiled statistics by any agency, governmental or NGO. It's a secret because, well, guns. The numbers I postulate are gleaned from a pro-gun online magazine article based on two years of online searching news paper articles.

**Except for guns designed for a Military Request for Quote. The military, whose most basic job description is to 'tear things up and kill people' has more stringent safety requirements than the civilian market.



July 3, 2021

It's not over after that trigger is pulled . . .

“It's not over after that trigger is pulled and it hits someone. It's the beginning of a new life, and some people just don't know how to live.”

—Charles Horton, 50, who's been a wheelchair user since sustaining a spinal cord injury in a 1988 shooting.

There are more than 100,000 people affected by gunshot wounds every year.

What is wrong with us?

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