WhaTHellsgoingonhere
WhaTHellsgoingonhere's JournalThom Hartmann said he was wrong about Bernie or Busters
Prior to today, he's been calling them idiots. Now says a large portion of them (obviously, no one on DU) have not been engaged in politics until Bernie came along with his Progressive message.
Just started discussion now.
lol Where's the CT? You guys are so blinded by your loyalty to Hillary, you can't see the demise of
the Party. You refute all evidence. You take no responsibility for it. Your strategy, blame and shame others. You have a candidate who is being forced by an unknown outsider to move to the left. You guys are blind, supporting the most divisive figure in the history of the Party, and your only solution: ridicule, blame, and shame. Alienating others is a loser but obviously, your only resolve. As I said elsewhere tonight, the disconnect between "We've been in charge of the Party since 1992" and "Half of the Party is in complete revolt" is incredible.
Keep it up! You're really helping our cause.
How can a brilliant political scientist like Rachel seem oblivious to the DLC?
Someone explain to her that the pre-DLC Democratic Party was very close to labor. Then a movement, led by monied interests and elites, the DLC, came along and ended welfare as we know it (whistle), got tough on crime (whistle), entered "Free" trade agreements (broke with labor), and put the final nail in the Glass-Stegall coffin. And yet, she's befuddled that Bernie wants to move the Party in a new direction. Or more accurately, he wants to return the Party to its pre-DLC roots. This shit escapes her.
They haven't been voting for a while. Something is obviously broken but blaming "them" only helps
movements like Bernie's and the ones that follow. But you DLCers continue what you're doing. You're turning people away and blaming them.
And that's good for the other half of the Democratic Party
The disconnect between "We've been in charge since 1992" and "half of the party is revolting" is
incredible.
Hillary Clinton is the most divisive figure in the Dem Party. The schism will only worsen after 2016
The other day, I looked into the "we must come together after the primary" meme.
It appears clear (see graph), after Obama defeated Clinton in 2008, the Democratic Party filed for divorce. That was a rough, bitter primary, but this primary seems even more so. The big difference being, Sanders joined the Democratic Party but the Democratic Party has rejected him, and in the case of her supporters, vitriolicly so. Not a good sign for the Party as people continue to leave and Hillary, and her mocking supporters, have managed to alienate young people.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/166763/record-high-americans-identify-independents.aspx
I was looking into this "come together meme" and 2008 marked a critical point in the Democratic Part
Seems after Obama defeated Clinton in 2008, the Democratic Party filed for divorce. That was a rough, bitter primary, but this primary seems even more so. The big difference being, Sanders joined the Democratic Party but the Democratic Party has rejected him. Not a good sign for the Party as people continue to leave and young voters have been alienated.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/166763/record-high-americans-identify-independents.aspx
Let me guess, when a Hillary supporter says a Jew is a cheapskate, it's OK by you
...but when a Bernie supporter points out what a total ass the Hillary clown made of himself, now it's a problem?
I got your number, Ferret.
It would look like Obama's admin. Goldman Sachs and a WS defense atty. And they would all claim
there's no way you can prove his/her admin is influenced by WS ties. And they'd be indignant when they said it. And in the meantime, they'll turn a blind eye to WS's white collar criminals and oversea the redistribution of wealth to the top. But, Oh no! They will defy you to prove any of this is happening. Then Rachel and the rest of the liberal network will defend them.
Those pesky regulations to level the playing field
Those pesky regulations to level the playing field. All Uber drivers are being asked to doing is jump through SOME of the hoops cab drivers must jump through.
1. Safety. Interestingly, it happens to be the most aggressively fought by Uber. That means criminal background checks, finger printing, a drug test, a physical exam, and mandated maintenance. (Please explain why Uber customers would oppose safety regulations. Thanks in advance.)
2. No poaching. Other than drop-offs, it's illegal for cabs to operate outside of city limits. The cab industry isn't asking Uber to be restricted similarly. The cab industry is asking Uber drivers who live in a city or state to register their car in that city and state and get a state drivers license. In Chicago, Uber drivers come from everywhere. Plates from Indiana, California, Ontario (Canada), Florida. Just register in Illionois and get an IL drivers license.
3. Don't be a deadbeat, pay your tickets, child support, and municipal bills. Chicagoland Uber and Lyft drivers own the municipalities in excess of $15 million dollars.
4. Use the roads, your passengers use the commons, pay for them. In Chicago, cab drivers MUST collect a $4 tax from airport pickups from passengers. The "McPier" tax pays for events and salaries at Navy Pier and the McCorrmick convention center. Uber has not reimbursed McPier and McPier has to sue Uber to collect what is owed them. That's how Uber rolls. Subsidies and "sue us, we'll settle for less after years of appeals."
Beginning to understand those wretched government regulations are aimed at putting an end to Ayn Randians who rely on subsidies and circumvent paying for the commons?
The commons! Thom's mantra. This is just one reason it's infuriating to listen to him pimp for these middle class job killing (that's another reason), race-to-the-bottom (yet another), libertarian freeloaders. Can't get his attention. I'm spoon feeding to reduce the amount of research he has to do, but he's chosen stick his head in the sand. Louise has even gone so far as to delete my threads and account. I joined the message board in 2007 but as you can see, I'm a new member and these are my first posts. gumball is correct, there have been threads about Uber here. In fact, no doubt he and I sparred in the two I created before they were discovered and deleted along with my account.
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