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"... It's still shit." ~ Nina Turner on the choice between voting for Biden or Trump

QUOTE: "Endorsing Joe Biden for President would be like eating a bowl-of-shit." ~ Nina Turner

I agree. I understand it's a bit of a "trigger" for people who hate Democrats...

... and the Democratic party. But, oh well. Ya can't please everyone.

Fact based rather than biased sensationalism.
I completely agree. We definitely need more of that these days. It's the extremists at the far ends of the political spectrum who are typically the ones that cause the biggest problems. For example: just look at Trump's wackos.

In any case, that's pretty much the nature of politics, isn't it. Progress is made by finding common ground... looking for areas of compromise and common interest... and understanding that nobody gets EVERYTHING that they want. Give and take.

In the end, some progress is better than no progress. And slow progress is still progress... and much better than maintaining the status quo (ie: getting NOTHING done) all in the name of vanity and pride and stubbornness.

All I'm trying to say is that if my choice is a half-loaf or NO loaf... I'll take the half-loaf, please. Even if I get the half-loaf a single slice at a time, it's still SOMETHING. That's reasonable, right?

Nina-T is the same woman who endorsed Jill Fucking Stine instead of Hillary...

Nina-T is the same woman who endorsed Jill Fucking Stine instead of Hillary (in the general election against Trump). She was also asked by Stein to be her VP running mate. She's part of a plethora of guilty individuals who took part in kneecapping Hillary's campaign and strengthening Trump's campaign.

She couldn't even bring herself to support BIDEN over Trump. Nina-T has no loyalty to the Democratic party, it's obvious.

We even have a high-ranking individual in her "People's Party" who confirmed (in a video-recorded interview) that if Nina wins, the plan is to have her publicly renounce the Democratic party and do a little "bait-and-switch" by declaring allegiance to the "People's Party" that she founded.

According to "The People's Party" (which she co-founded) Nina originally WANTED to run...

According to "The People's Party" (which she co-founded) Nina originally WANTED to run as a "People's Party" candidate.

This was interesting:

"The People’s Party isn’t on the ballot in Ohio yet so she will have to run as a Democrat." (emphasis is mine)

https://peoplesparty.org/nina-turner-congress/


Her pathetic "People's Party" didn't have what it takes to get on the Ohio 11 ballot in time, otherwise she would run as a People's Party candidate. The reality is this: she's only grudgingly running as a Democrat and using OUR party in order to be on the ballot.

Really? Here are their areas of focus... which one/s do you disagree with?

No way is "Third Way" progressive.
Really? What a strange thing to say. Here are their areas of focus... which one/s do you disagree with? It all looks good to me! Everything they're pushing and advocating for sounds PERFECTLY REASONABLE.

Social Policy
We are forging common ground on contentious social issues, while fighting efforts to turn back the clock on social progress. What does that look like? We’ve helped unite faith communities and LGBT advocates around the shared value of commitment in marriage, and advocated for gun safety measures that protect responsible owners and do more to keep guns out of the wrong hands.


Climate and Energy
Our team designs and advocates for policies that will drive innovation and deployment of clean energy technologies, and deliver the emissions cuts we need to win the fight against climate change. The more low-carbon options we have to work with, the better our chances of success. That’s why we’re proud to be part of a large and growing community promoting evidence-based solutions to the climate challenge that include advanced nuclear and carbon capture technology, as well as renewables, hydropower, existing nuclear, energy storage, and efficiency.


Economy
Our team designs and advocates for expansive, forward-thinking solutions to address the challenges facing Americans seeking to earn a good life. We believe that an innovative, modernized government must work in tandem with a thriving and dynamic private sector to achieve sustained economic growth and broad prosperity. Technology and globalization are changing the nature of work in ways not seen in a century; we create and promote policy ideas so that those huge economic shifts can help people instead of hurt them.


Education
Higher education is now critical to securing a middle-class lifestyle, but our education system is still built around 20th century ideas. We’re focused on moving the K-12 and higher education debates toward policies that improve outcomes so that every student leaves our education system with more opportunities than before they started.


Health Care
Our team advances forward thinking policy ideas to ensure affordable, high-quality health care for everyone. We believe that defending and improving the Affordable Care Act is the key for expanding coverage. And we believe that our nation can keep health care costs down by improving the patient experience—when patients stay healthy, or get better quicker, they need less care.


National Security
Our team works to keep national security on the front burner for policymakers. We educate Members of Congress on emerging threats, developing and promoting policy ideas to make America strong and safe, and conducting narrative and messaging research to help progressives be tough and smart on national security.


Politics
We bring a unique expertise on how to appeal to voters in some of the most purple parts of the country. Our team uses in-depth public opinion research and original analysis to unite progressives around a broad path to power at all levels of government and debunk outdated electoral theories. Our team is undertaking a major project to overhaul our electoral system in ways that radically increase participation and make our system more representative of the people it is supposed to serve.

Does it hurt politicians who endorse a candidate who compared Biden to a BOWL-OF-SHIT?

Does it hurt politicians who endorse a candidate who compared Biden to a BOWL-OF-SHIT? What are voters to make of something like that?

Considering the fact that Nina Turner used the "bowl of shit" comment, not once... but TWICE (and in a very public way) it's not as though this is something that flew under-the-radar. It's not as though her endorsers were completely unaware of her vulgar anti-Biden comments. Therefore, it's very unlikely that any of Nina's endorsers had no idea of what she said.

It's also unlikely that any of Nina's endorsers didn't know about the fact that Nina refused to endorse or support Biden in the general election against Trump, and that Nina supported Jill Stein instead of Hillary in the general election against Trump.

It doesn't seem plausible that any of Nina's endorsers have no idea that she abandoned the Democratic party to start her own "People's Party" to undermine and weaken the Democratic party... and that she's now only grudgingly running "as a" Democrat because her People's Party didn't have what it takes to get on the Ohio ballot.

So, with all the negative baggage that Nina Turner has (and all of her anti-Biden and anti-Democratic Party hostility) does it reflect poorly on the politicians who endorse Turner? Does it suggest that her endorsers AGREE with her vulgar statements? Are we to assume that her endorsers also share Turner's hostility toward the Democratic Party?

Basically: Does it hurt politicians who endorse a candidate who compared Biden to a BOWL-OF-SHIT?

In her own words: Nina Turner seems to hate the Democratic party.

In her own words: Nina Turner seems to hate the Democratic party. --- Here's an interesting collection of video/audio clips of interviews that Nina-T has given over the years. She makes it very clear that she has nothing but contempt and distrust of the Democratic Party. Yet here she is, running "as a" Democrat (but only because her preferred "People's Party" didn't have what it takes to get on the ballot in Ohio.)

I spent a few minutes typing a transcript of the on-screen text AND her exact words. Watch and listen to the video... read-along if you want. Here is the TRUTH about what Nina-T thinks of Democrats... the words are coming from her own mouth!

Nina Turner is running as a Democratic candidate for #OH11 but she seems to hate the party. She never said she voted for Biden in 2020 or Hillary in 2016. She also said electing President Obama was symbolic & produced no results & that Kamala as VP pick was to “check off a box”.

https://twitter.com/josecanyousee/status/1415881138728366080
Nina Turner highlights the moment her disdain for the Democratic Party originated.
-- "... and at a dinner for the Ohio Democratic Party, President Clinton said everyone else's name but mine. So, this is the exclusive because I've never told this story publicly."

Nina Turner explains that President Obama was only a symbolic figure.
-- "... we made no demands of the President, and the 'symbol' of President Obama is a beautiful thing, but what did that get us collectively?"

Nina Turner explains she believes the 2016 Democratic Primary was rigged.
-- "... the fix was in from the beginning!"

Nina Turner explains she is not about party unity: She thinks her preferred 2016 candidate was "cheated"
-- "... well I wasn't there, you know, I was home. Because, my, the person I wanted, you know, got cheated in the primary."

Nina Turner explains if it is a choice between Trump or Hillary, might as well vote for the extreme.
-- "... you know if it's the difference between the lesser of the two evils, we might just go with straight-up evil!"

Nina Turner explains she "would love to see" the extreme left "go crazy" & "hold the Democratic Party hostage"
-- "... what I would love to see the progressive movement do from the progressive members of the House of Representatives and progressive members who may be in the Senate is... to go crazy! Maybe take a page out of the Tea Party book and hold the Democratic Party hostage!"

Nina Turner explains that Kamala Harris joining the ticket is about "checking off a box"
-- "... it cannot be about just checking-off a box! But it is clear that the Democratic Party -- that is what they are most concerned about -- see, they're more concerned about optics."

Nina Turner explains that Kamala Harris joining the ticket is the ticket Wall Street wants.
-- "... Wall Street has the ticket that they want!"

Nina Turner explains that having to vote between Donald Trump and Joe Biden is like choosing between two bowls of shit to eat.
-- "... you got two bowls of shit in front of you, and you got to pick one. That's the situation we in right now. Bowl #1 or Bowl #2?"

How can Nina work with a party she hates?
-- "... these so-called Democrats!"
-- "... I have no faith in the Democratic Party."

She's only running "as a" Democrat because her "People's Party" didn't have what it takes to be...

She's only running "as a" Democrat because her "People's Party" didn't have what it takes to be on the ballot in Ohio. This is just a means to an end. (It's treacherous. She has zero intention of supporting or growing or being loyal to the Democratic party. She wants "revenge".)

After all, Nina-T is the same woman who endorsed Jill Fucking Stine instead of Hillary (in the general election against Trump). She was also asked by Stein to be her VP running mate. She's part of a plethora of guilty individuals who took part in kneecapping Hillary's campaign and strengthening Trump's campaign.

Why would ANYONE endorse her? I have ZERO respect for any politician (or celebrity)...

Why would ANYONE endorse her? I'll be completely frank and straightforward here... I have ZERO respect for any politician (or celebrity) who promotes or endorses Nina-T. Anyone who endorses that woman is giving their approval for the venom and lies that she spews. It's an endorsement of outright hostility and contempt for the Democratic party, and Democratic leadership, AND the Biden/Harris administration.

It's not as though we don't know who she is or what she's up to. After all...

-- she supported Jill Fucking Stein when Hillary ran against Trump.
-- she voted for Jill Fucking Stein in the same election.
-- she claims she was asked to be Jill Fucking Stein's running-mate.
-- she refused to support Joe Biden (against Trump).
-- she compared to Joe Biden as a "bowl of shit". "Choosing between Biden and Trump was like have a bowl of shit in front of you"
-- she is grudgingly running "as-a" Democrat because her "People's Party" couldn't get on the ballot.
-- she promotes her (so-called) "People's Party" over the Democratic Party
-- she badmouths Joe Biden and Kamala Harris
-- she shows only contempt for the Democratic party
-- she wanted Trump to win! "[if we must choose] the difference of the lesser of the two evils we might just go with straight-up evil!"


... it's all TOTAL BS! All I'm saying is that voters deserve a candidate who will do his/her best to promote and grow the Democratic party and who will be loyal to the party, and who will work FOR (not against) the Biden Administration.

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