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Otto Lidenbrock

Otto Lidenbrock's Journal
Otto Lidenbrock's Journal
August 1, 2019

"Vice President Biden..." "Mr Vice President..."

Those candidates, especially Harris and De Blasio, made a stupid plan namechecking him at every turn.

These debates are not really worthwhile. Yang expressed that perfectly at the end. Everyone is time limited to give their prepared lines and if you don't hurry you'll be cut short.

So constantly bringing it back to Biden, trying to jab at him and make a name for yourself backfired.

Every time they went after him his hand shot up letting the moderators know they can't move on without giving him the right of reply. Every time they did that was one more chance for Biden to speak. One less chance for someone else.

Tell me what you're for, not who you're against in the Democratic debate.

July 30, 2019

Ronald Reagan's racist phone call to Richard Nixon released

The day after the United Nations voted to recognize the People’s Republic of China, then–California Governor Ronald Reagan phoned President Richard Nixon at the White House and vented his frustration at the delegates who had sided against the United States. “Last night, I tell you, to watch that thing on television as I did,” Reagan said. “Yeah,” Nixon interjected. Reagan forged ahead with his complaint: “To see those, those monkeys from those African countries—damn them, they’re still uncomfortable wearing shoes!” Nixon gave a huge laugh.

Audio in link:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/07/ronald-reagans-racist-conversation-richard-nixon/595102/
July 28, 2019

Who is Gillibrand talking about?

“We have Democratic candidates running for president right now who do not believe necessarily that it’s a good idea that women work outside the home,” she said emphatically before a women’s labor event in Iowa City, Iowa. “No joke.”

Ms. Gillibrand did not name names, and her campaign would not say whom she was referring to.


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/26/us/politics/kirsten-gillibrand-2020.html
July 23, 2019

I predict the July 31st debate will be Anyone But Biden



He's going to be in between Booker and Harris who have taken several aims at him. And from my recollection only Yang and Gabbard in this group haven't made a political/policy hit on him yet.

And for several of the candidates across both nights the prospect of dropping out is coming closer so this might be last chance saloon to try and make some gains in the polls.

He has to be ready to respond.
July 18, 2019

2016 was never about economic anxiety

The antics last night confirm it, if you didn't already know.

The idea that Trump got in the White House because Hillary and the Democrats represented a staus quo that sold out Middle America behind is false. Trump got in because he and the Republicans represent a return to the era of fewer rights for people who don't look like them. The era of open and proud racism, bigotry and hatred.

If economic anxiety was real then bigotry shouldn't be on the rise. Afterall, Trump boasts about "the best economy". If economic anxiety were real his supporters should be kissing their wallets and shutting up. Instead bigotry is on the rise. Because economic anxiety of Trump supporters is a myth.

July 18, 2019

I want to see Mayor Pete debate Pence

I think that would be glorious. This country is plagued by a small minority of evangelicals who hide their racism, sexism, hatred and bigotry under the shelter of the Bible. Something has to give and Pete will call out the fake Christian for what he is to his face in front of millions.

July 15, 2019

40 Years Ago Today




In a nation that was proud of hard work, strong families, close-knit communities, and our faith in God, too many of us now tend to worship self-indulgence and consumption. Human identity is no longer defined by what one does, but by what one owns. But we’ve discovered that owning things and consuming things does not satisfy our longing for meaning. We’ve learned that piling up material goods cannot fill the emptiness of lives which have no confidence or purpose.

The symptoms of this crisis of the American spirit are all around us. For the first time in the history of our country a majority of our people believe that the next five years will be worse than the past five years. Two-thirds of our people do not even vote. The productivity of American workers is actually dropping, and the willingness of Americans to save for the future has fallen below that of all other people in the Western world.

As you know, there is a growing disrespect for government and for churches and for schools, the news media, and other institutions. This is not a message of happiness or reassurance, but it is the truth and it is a warning.

These changes did not happen overnight. They’ve come upon us gradually over the last generation, years that were filled with shocks and tragedy.

We were sure that ours was a nation of the ballot, not the bullet, until the murders of John Kennedy and Robert Kennedy and Martin Luther King, Jr. We were taught that our armies were always invincible and our causes were always just, only to suffer the agony of Vietnam. We respected the Presidency as a place of honor until the shock of Watergate.

We remember when the phrase “sound as a dollar” was an expression of absolute dependability, until ten years of inflation began to shrink our dollar and our savings. We believed that our nation’s resources were limitless until 1973 when we had to face a growing dependence on foreign oil.

These wounds are still very deep. They have never been healed.

Looking for a way out of this crisis, our people have turned to the Federal Government and found it isolated from the mainstream of our nation’s life. Washington, D.C., has become an island. The gap between our citizens and our government has never been so wide. The people are looking for honest answers, not easy answers; clear leadership, not false claims and evasiveness and politics as usual.

What you see too often in Washington and elsewhere around the country is a system of government that seems incapable of action. You see a Congress twisted and pulled in every direction by hundreds of well-financed and powerful special interests.

You see every extreme position defended to the last vote, almost to the last breath by one unyielding group or another. You often see a balanced and a fair approach that demands sacrifice, a little sacrifice from everyone, abandoned like an orphan without support and without friends.

Often you see paralysis and stagnation and drift. You don’t like it, and neither do I. What can we do?
July 13, 2019

Bernie hits back at Biden on Medicare For All

Atkinson, New Hampshire (CNN) — Bernie Sanders on Saturday accused former Vice President Joe Biden of using "misinformation" to attack the Vermont senator's "Medicare for All" proposal, further escalating an emerging battle among leading Democratic presidential candidates over health care policy.

During a two-day New Hampshire swing on Friday and Saturday, Biden repeatedly criticized other leading 2020 contenders' push to largely abandon private insurance and enroll all Americans in Medicare.

Instead, Biden said, he favors expanding former President Barack Obama's Affordable Care Act to allow Americans the option of buying into such a system -- but retaining private insurance for those who are already covered.

"I don't want to start over," he said Friday in Dover. "How many of you out there have had someone you've lost to cancer? Or cancer yourself? No time, man. We cannot have a hiatus of six months, a year, two, three, to get something done. People desperately need help now."

Sanders seized on those comments, arguing in a statement his campaign released Saturday that under his proposal, there would be no gap in coverage as Americans transition into Medicare for All over four years.

https://edition-m.cnn.com/2019/07/13/politics/bernie-sanders-joe-biden-medicare-for-all-misinformation/index.html?

https://twitter.com/ElizLanders/status/1150115298831413248

Have to say it's pretty ironic that cries of misinformation is coming from the Sanders staff. That has been their MO against other candidates..."#kamalaisacop, "Nothing will fundamentally change"...oh and Hillary being attacked for a crime bill she had no participation towards, but one he voted for.

June 26, 2019

What will depress turnout in 2020 is disinformation tactics like this

“I mean, we may not want to demonize anybody who has made money. The truth of the matter is, you all, you all know, you all know in your gut what has to be done. We can disagree in the margins but the truth of the matter is it’s all within our wheelhouse and nobody has to be punished. No one’s standard of living will change, nothing would fundamentally change.”


1) "We may not want to demonize anybody who has made money"

2) "You all know in your gut what has to be done"

3) "We can disagree in the margins"

4) "No one's standard of living will change"



1) It is not a crime to be rich

2) But the rich must pay their fair share

3) You might disagree with the rate of tax

4) But increasing your taxes won't fundamentally change your standard of living


It's pretty clear what Biden was saying. You can tax these guys 70% and they will still be well off. Gov. Dean agrees:


https://twitter.com/GovHowardDean/status/1141354582456590336

But hey...lets ignore the entire passage and just take the last line to spin everything around.

https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/1142899561460948993

The irony is Trump supporters and his surrogates are painting Biden as a socialist because he has said several times on the campaign trail he will roll back the tax cuts and raise taxes on the wealthy

https://www.atr.org/biden-tax-cuts-will-be-gone-if-i-m-elected

I have nothing against Bernie Sanders. I have a lot against his surrogates who behave like total hacks. We saw this in 2016. I said back then while "corporate Republican-lites" Bill and Hillary Clinton were fighting for healthcare reform the actual Republicans (of which Cenk Uygur was a voter) fought tooth and nail against it.

Rant over.


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