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limpyhobbler

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13. you're 100% right. Obama knows there is a problem [with the NDAA] or he wouldn't have to clarify.

Sun Jan 1, 2012, 08:29 PM

Jan 2012

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Similarly Feinstein knows there is a problem or she wouldn't have introduced that Due Process Guarantee Act.

Of course it may just be that the problem they actually perceive is that so many people in the progressive wing of the party will just not shut up and stop whining about it.

I think it's fair to say that most activists who associate with the democratic party have already made their minds up about NDAA. Some people see a serious civil liberties issue and others don't. Not too many people are going to be changing their minds on the subject. Nobody is convincing anybody.

Democrats who supported NDAA 2012 should expect primary challenges and/or just a less enthusiastic base. There's no way around that. The elected national Democrats have knowingly chosen to sacrifice a certain amount of support on the left, in exchange for ____? for what?

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Ummm.....why should Obama even have to pledge to exempt US citizens from indefinite detention [View all] Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 OP

Because most people don't know that, obviously. TheWraith Jan 2012 #1

Because ProSense Jan 2012 #2

There is little sense in pretending this isn't up to interpretation, at the least. TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #12

Exactly. It's pitiful that the U.S. has come to this just1voice Jan 2012 #3

Horrifying and immoral, definitely, woo me with science Jan 2012 #14

Same reason he had to release his birth certificate. Robb Jan 2012 #4

Good question, it would have sounded better, too if he expressed that it was FORBIDDEN by this bill got root Jan 2012 #5

It doesn't matter because the courts already told the country this was okay years ago. phleshdef Jan 2012 #6

It matters if it helps wake people up... got root Jan 2012 #8

They could "codify" banning all guns into law. It would still be irrelevant without changing... phleshdef Jan 2012 #11

So Jebthro Bush doesn't have to. Octafish Jan 2012 #7

Isn't his administration also looking for a repeal of said provision? FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #9

What is it to be repealed and where did you hear he was looking to do it? nm rhett o rick Jan 2012 #10

you're 100% right. Obama knows there is a problem [with the NDAA] or he wouldn't have to clarify. limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #13

because a bunch of people are out there loudly claiming that the bill treestar Jan 2012 #15