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zipplewrath

(16,698 posts)
39. Well, apart from the sarcasm
Wed Mar 7, 2018, 02:17 PM
Mar 2018

I get the basic thrust of the OP, because it's true, they seem to be signing on, without getting anything for their support.

Of course, what that means is getting anything FOR THEIR CONSTITUENTS per say. They are probably getting contributions from the industry, and some "protection" come election time.

That said, this bill is moving forward without alot of resistance because of what it claims to do. The collapse occurred because alot of large international banking institutions were involved in hugely risky investment vehicles. There were also huge national mortgage entities that were issuing bad paper, and then getting the rating agencies to give them safe ratings.

This bill is intended to relieve many of the smaller regional and state level banks from much of this since they weren't part of the problem to begin with. They are claiming, and their senators are representing that this is unfairly hurting them and causing the states to lose that state and local focused loans that support local growth, in favor of large national banks that are more interested in larger deals in out of state locations.

Which all sounds really good, but I'm not sure you can really make that case. Small banks struggle for a variety of reasons, most of them having nothing to do with regulation. My credit union just merged with a much larger one, not because of regulations, but because at their size, they had a hard time serving their highly distributed customer base. Regional banks often don't generate enough capital to support large regional projects, and those projects have to go seeking the larger institutions. They are often also ripe targets for mergers. When you are a large bank wanting to become a big player in New York, the quickest way is to buy up alot of small banks. None of this has to do with regulation.

And the risk isn't so much that these institutions won't be well regulated, it is that they get labeled as being easier to regulate, and so become attractive targets for others to get control and leverage into much larger deals, before anyone notices and begins to regulate them at the level they deserve. The get involved in "cooperative" deals that don't seem as large, until you see that these deals, in the conglomerate, and very big indeed. This was a big problem in the Savings and Loan Crisis way back when. Folks bought up small ones and created an interconnected set of institutions that no one noticed were all tied together, until it was too late.

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Sigh. This is So depressing. ananda Mar 2018 #1
It's the Obscene Amounts of Money and It Has Thoroughly Corrupted our Entire Political Process dlk Mar 2018 #2
Yep - Government By Auction PaulX2 Mar 2018 #15
sickening. spanone Mar 2018 #3
These people are pure scum. BSdetect Mar 2018 #4
I posted an OP about this a few days ago. it is a big symptom of the dismantlement of our Ninga Mar 2018 #5
I'm not sure what they thin they are getting. alarimer Mar 2018 #6
Here are the 17 Democrats . CentralMass Mar 2018 #7
All far leftists! kentuck Mar 2018 #8
Are these folks really democrats? KPN Mar 2018 #23
Well the do have (D) 's after their names. Glamrock Mar 2018 #27
Oh yeah, I keep forgetting that part. What I really need to forget KPN Mar 2018 #28
Yep Glamrock Mar 2018 #30
'Right Wing Democrats' is accurate, and disappointing. appalachiablue Mar 2018 #37
Yes it is but I prefer the term republicrats. KPN Mar 2018 #48
Some of them are the usual suspects. Ilsa Mar 2018 #26
Well, when it all comes crashing down again we will know whom to blame n2doc Mar 2018 #9
Democrats are in a good bargaining position but they're just giving away the store. octoberlib Mar 2018 #10
Yup, one step forward two-steps back. KPN Mar 2018 #31
And Kaine was our VP pick in the last election. jalan48 Mar 2018 #11
And is my senator whom I wrote to re this bill! Duppers Mar 2018 #12
Uninspired choice xxqqqzme Mar 2018 #25
This is more maddening than when the repugs do it.... Ferrets are Cool Mar 2018 #13
Same as it ever was. shanny Mar 2018 #14
Yes, absolutely so long as their are strong, KPN Mar 2018 #22
Dems may have the smarts and ideas, but not always the spine....and there is the $$$$$ thing NRaleighLiberal Mar 2018 #16
They seem to find the spine to stand up to their constituents Fiendish Thingy Mar 2018 #19
+1! KPN Mar 2018 #21
Einstein's attributed insanity quote comes to mind. OnlinePoker Mar 2018 #17
Primary them all! Fiendish Thingy Mar 2018 #18
Lord. NurseJackie Mar 2018 #33
You could drop this entire thread into JPR and it would fit perfectly BannonsLiver Mar 2018 #46
I know... weird, huh? NurseJackie Mar 2018 #47
Well, doncha know that these particular KPN Mar 2018 #20
Exactly... vi5 Mar 2018 #24
Well, apart from the sarcasm zipplewrath Mar 2018 #39
Thx for the info/analysis. So what's the KPN Mar 2018 #41
We're in the minority zipplewrath Mar 2018 #42
The flaw in all of this that we are never in power KPN Mar 2018 #43
America has become one of the most corrupt nations in the world. democratisphere Mar 2018 #29
The amount od Dems who voted for the disastrous 2005 bankruptcy bill elmac Mar 2018 #32
...but these Sentaors vote with us 95, 90, 85, percent of the time...and we need them JCanete Mar 2018 #34
"Bashing" & "attacking" Democrats? Why is this allowed to stand? Fix The Stupid Mar 2018 #35
"Paints Dems in a bad light"...if the shoe fits... nt babylonsister Mar 2018 #36
This is the kind of bill that the left-wing blogosphere (TYT, etc.) pretended HRC would have backed. StevieM Mar 2018 #38
You think so? zipplewrath Mar 2018 #40
It's mostly bad because it gives to leftbro crowd the excuse to: Blue_Tires Mar 2018 #44
What? babylonsister Mar 2018 #45
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