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In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders to unveil plan to guarantee every American a job [View all]Donkees
(32,512 posts)279. Twitter Link: ... met with Sen. Sanders and his staff on February 8. His staff began drafting ...
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Yeh, more free stuff the country cannot afford. If the government guarantees a job at $15/hr its
politicaljunkie41910
Apr 2018
#133
The funds to pay taxes and buy government securities come from government spending
CarlitosMMT
Apr 2018
#175
I understand how monetary policy works. I majored in Finance and Accounting.
politicaljunkie41910
Apr 2018
#262
That's why Democrats and those that profess to be Democrats have to stop....
George II
Apr 2018
#251
See my post below to my link in which I responded to a previous poster.
politicaljunkie41910
Apr 2018
#271
I got news for you the private sector is not capable of solving the problem without profits
Stargazer99
Apr 2018
#300
You're worried about a 'government welfare program"? I will let your words speak for themselves.
Doremus
Apr 2018
#275
You should be grateful that you had the opportunities and quit assuming everyone has
Stargazer99
Apr 2018
#299
Thanks for posting this... the "right to a job" message needs to be spread far and wide.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#13
I hope the first to sign up are those poor unemployed educators from Burlington College
George II
Apr 2018
#139
I read somewhere that there's also a plan in the works for free woodworking classes.
George II
Apr 2018
#239
And I think they're ALL following FDR's example. Who cares who came up with it?
Doremus
Apr 2018
#277
Corey Booker, to his credit, has come over to Bernie's side on a number of issues...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#153
Bernie FOLLOWED John Conyers and Cory Booker on this, not the other way around. n/t
pnwmom
Apr 2018
#154
Wow. It seems that some are determined to push some of our fine Democratic politicians
KitSileya
Apr 2018
#199
Yeah, I know, it's on the tip of my tongue, and I think it also has something to do with
pnwmom
Apr 2018
#202
One, Bernies's bill is more extensive. Two, Sanders has a long track record of involvement on this
Tom Rinaldo
Apr 2018
#219
Bernie hasn't introduced his bill so we don't know exactly what it is yet. And if it is "dumb"
pnwmom
Apr 2018
#226
The problem is that he didn't unite strongly with Democrats after he lost the 2016 primaries
pnwmom
Apr 2018
#283
I disagree, but only by degree, so I can generaly accept where you are coming from
Tom Rinaldo
Apr 2018
#292
So one of his advisors has a track record, and Sanders organized a town hall on it.
ehrnst
Apr 2018
#290
Thats the ticket! attack the messenger. Who the fuck cares what your beef is with him if the
JCanete
Apr 2018
#16
I dont' think so, and I hardly see why that's relevant. Its being proposed by a Senator. Like it or
JCanete
Apr 2018
#54
They dont seem to understand that just because they didnt notice until Bernie did it
EffieBlack
Apr 2018
#75
fucking a effie...lovely, jump on the strawman. I have never personally credited sanders with
JCanete
Apr 2018
#82
Reason? haha, that's your FIRST mistake JC!! Seriously, your posts make sense...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#247
no that's not what happened. You clearly misunderstand the reason I brought Clinton up. I dont' have
JCanete
Apr 2018
#184
seriously? Its that important that you are right and I am wrong that you will mischaracterize
JCanete
Apr 2018
#190
I doubt fans of any politician give much, if any, thought to the origins of a politicians ideas.
sammythecat
Apr 2018
#250
Is it any better than Booker's? At least Booker's proposal is already completed.....
George II
Apr 2018
#141
No that's great. So two Senators are in favor of this and I applaud them both. If Booker's plan is
JCanete
Apr 2018
#158
So once again, let's split our efforts and dilute the Democratic legislative effort.
George II
Apr 2018
#163
It seems like something we should be forcused on. I dont' expect Booker to come here and post it.
JCanete
Apr 2018
#185
Spot on!! Bernie haters gotta hate... sad to see when we should be uniting to get
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#164
Assuming there's some truth in that, fine... let's rally around the ideas that UNITE us.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#230
It will appeal to his base who will support him rather than the real Democrat, unfortunately.
Doodley
Apr 2018
#6
Show me how even middling goals democrats put forward are possible without peopel first
JCanete
Apr 2018
#19
It means nothing if we simply pave the way for the next trump, but that was a strange direction
JCanete
Apr 2018
#24
Obama was vilified and the GOP heralded for their obstruction on every issue. What people
bettyellen
Apr 2018
#32
Again, we have to make the climate. There was no climate demanding a border wall. Somehow
JCanete
Apr 2018
#39
Lying to the public is just that. That we need to cut military spending, tax more is part of the
bettyellen
Apr 2018
#73
incremental change does not happen unless you threaten bigger change. You can't get compromise
JCanete
Apr 2018
#78
I'm done with wasting time responding to you on this topic until you address points I've
JCanete
Apr 2018
#91
so you actually won't or can't address my points. Noted. I hope you enjoy hearing yourself speak.
JCanete
Apr 2018
#98
well doned...you found something from back in January. No new news has come of this, at all...which
JCanete
Apr 2018
#124
I have addressed your attempts at argument as to magical revolutions on the other thread
Gothmog
Apr 2018
#120
The lie is in always disparaging incremental change and pretending that a big ask is
bettyellen
Apr 2018
#93
bettyellen, that's dissapointing. If you can't attack my words frame me. Literally in my post I
JCanete
Apr 2018
#102
Pay discrimination against POC and women is a much bigger issue, yet was dismissed as identity
bettyellen
Apr 2018
#127
who are those people who dismissed this? Show that dismissal? Because we have banks and big
JCanete
Apr 2018
#129
If your always talking about how corps are unfair to you, its about your paycheck. I get that you
bettyellen
Apr 2018
#132
I'm not talking about how they are unfair to "ME". You made that shit up to support your argument.
JCanete
Apr 2018
#156
Im side eyeing this wedge/ distraction crap pretty hard. If identity politics are
bettyellen
Apr 2018
#168
Nonsense. You are pointing in the wrong direction. That is not what I want at all and we can't
JCanete
Apr 2018
#173
Free college for everyone- in practice, totally racist, conceptually fucking stupid and
bettyellen
Apr 2018
#174
in practice totally racist how. Conceptually stupid how? This is exactly what a first world nation
JCanete
Apr 2018
#179
oh that? eh.... I didn't devle into the numbers so I don't know how much Sanders plan
JCanete
Apr 2018
#210
Pay discrimination against POC and women was dismissed as not a top priority.
George II
Apr 2018
#252
We cant pander to this ignorant anxiety white men have about an inclusive and fair economy
bettyellen
Apr 2018
#273
Yes- a huge effort was made to downplay these issues to court Mr Anxiety from the rust belt. You
bettyellen
Apr 2018
#288
Of course you ignore the fact that the banking regulations that you speak of
TexasTowelie
Apr 2018
#165
Look, I'll have to tackle a lot of this later, but you can't use "jobs" as an excuse for not doing
JCanete
Apr 2018
#192
shitttt.....lost connection lost a post...good lord. will ahve to return to this later.
JCanete
Apr 2018
#209
The reason deregulation happens and will continue to happen is because those that profess...
George II
Apr 2018
#253
The ACA is a Democratic piece of legislation and policy. Which Democrat are you calling "sicko"?
George II
Apr 2018
#255
LOL, that's EXACTLY what most Democrats said when Bernie advocated for same-sex marriage rights
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#22
I've seen a study you've cited before and it was problematic. As lamen as I am
JCanete
Apr 2018
#195
how is that? I agree, proposal costs matter. All of the factors involved in those costs
JCanete
Apr 2018
#197
Bernie didn't "lead" on that issue - he came around to it, the way most Dems did.
LisaM
Apr 2018
#66
Bernie did NOT advocate for same-sex marriage rights two decades ago. He advocated for states
pnwmom
Apr 2018
#203
I want to go a step further, actually. Guaranteed income regardless of work.
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2018
#53
I've never understood how guaranteed basic income doesn't get eaten up by inflation...
brooklynite
Apr 2018
#58
Its nice seeing people I often disagree with here on the same page philosophically.
JCanete
Apr 2018
#182
I would go much further. The whole point of my existence politically today
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2018
#249
$15/hour will undercut the union wage for many of those public works jobs.
WhiskeyGrinder
Apr 2018
#9
FDR used the NIRA to counteract the overlap between the WPA/CCC and unions
LanternWaste
Apr 2018
#41
It will give them cause to renegotiate higher wages. it will give corporations an incentive to pay
JCanete
Apr 2018
#112
ahhh, what has Bernie done in the last 2 years to implement this repeated $15/hr talking point?
BoneyardDem
Apr 2018
#11
I look forward to the day when a serious group of politicians (one cant do anything*, and you know
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2018
#57
Do it like they do in the Nordic countries, but not now, cant do it now. Nazis are
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2018
#59
I'm fine running on jobs for as many as possible, but I'm not for hyperbole unless he
Hoyt
Apr 2018
#31
Well Sanders' and his supporters bashing of Clinton on trade did help get trump elected.
Hoyt
Apr 2018
#43
Speaking truth to power is almost meaningless if over a very long period of time one
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2018
#62
On issues where you have support. But again, cant even promise children we wont let them die at
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2018
#69
I agree he speaks against right wing BS. Problem is, he has no viable way of doing what
Hoyt
Apr 2018
#63
I wish people would use critical thinking skills and ask themselves why someone would
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2018
#71
Jon Stewart, Sam Bee, Steven Colbert and Trevor Noah speak truth to power more effectively
ehrnst
Apr 2018
#229
That's a big fucking deal, and this is one area where I think Sanders is antiquated. I would take
JCanete
Apr 2018
#42
Some as recently as a couple of years ago have discussed bringing back legislation signed by Carter.
NCTraveler
Apr 2018
#46
So who is Corey Booker firing up? and what does totally unnecesary even mean? Unnecesary to who?
JCanete
Apr 2018
#113
unemployment rates are at a historic low but the job pay is abysmal. Arguably a decent minimum wage
JCanete
Apr 2018
#122
so then he's not pandering to Sanders supporters...and believes in this? I can't follow you guys..
JCanete
Apr 2018
#115
It's called a "smart move"!! If Bernie doesn't run in 2020, lot's of his supporters...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#214
If he would get together with all of us and FIRST dedicate himself to electing ANY
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2018
#65
Did you read this thread?! The ONLY one being compared to Rethuglians and Nazi tRump is Bernie!!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#212
Yet store shelves were virtually empty and restaurants ran out of food early in the lunch hour.
greatauntoftriplets
Apr 2018
#144
I'd be interested in seeing what interview you are referring to. I'd be surprised if Sanders, as
JCanete
Apr 2018
#118
Interview here: "Bernie Sanders admits he isn't sure how to break up big banks"
betsuni
Apr 2018
#131
Then talk to Elizabeth Warren..... she said, if Republican open up Dodd-Frank
Civic Justice
Apr 2018
#149
Banks are privately owned business. What authority does anyone have to break them up?
Hamlette
Apr 2018
#138
Our Revolution is a 501(c)(4). That means they dont have to disclose their donors
emulatorloo
Apr 2018
#244
Yes, but that's what scares supporters of OTHER politicians... sad to see.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#266
And here's the irony...the fact that Bernie is "not one of them" is PRECISELY why
InAbLuEsTaTe
Apr 2018
#269
That's a lazy way to propose legislation. If something like this is to have any chance...
NurseJackie
Apr 2018
#220
"A representative from Sanders's office said they had not yet done a cost estimate for the plan or..
Cha
Apr 2018
#170
I read the 3rd paragraph three times and still can't believe it's not a Republican proposal
DFW
Apr 2018
#194
Twitter Link: ... met with Sen. Sanders and his staff on February 8. His staff began drafting ...
Donkees
Apr 2018
#279
A great proposal and a way to implement and pay for it. I hope all Democratic Senators....
George II
May 2018
#321