1) Impeachment does not take a two-thirds majority of the House, only a simple majority (Reply #89)

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89. 1) Impeachment does not take a two-thirds majority of the House, only a simple majority

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 03:15 PM

Apr 2018

Bill Clinton was impeached on grounds of perjury to a grand jury by a 228 to 206 vote.
He was impeached for obstruction of justice by a 221 to 212 vote.
You're correct about the Senate, though..It does take a two-thirds vote to convict.

2) After impeaching Bill Clinton, the Republicans did lose public support, but not because of the successful impeachment by the House.
The GOP probably lost public support because the Senate failed to vote to convict.
The perjury charge was defeated with 45 votes for conviction and 55 against.
The obstruction of justice charge was defeated with 50 votes for and 50 against.
Both charges failed to even come close to the 67 votes it would have taken for a conviction.

3) Democratic leadership cannot "tell" Democrats to avoid talking about impeaching Trump.
Pelosi and other Democratic leaders can only "suggest" that.
Democrats in Congress can talk about whatever they want to, without seeking "permission" from Democratic leadership.

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I must disagree. Sherman A1 Apr 2018 #24

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1) Impeachment does not take a two-thirds majority of the House, only a simple majority red dog 1 Apr 2018 #89

Shouldn't we be worried about the mid term elections first? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2018 #7

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin, those who want to win in 2020 are already at work. S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2018 #9

Then they are the ones who should be working Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2018 #16

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I hope this point is obvious to you Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2018 #36

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Bernie Sanders' mistake was in allowing a savvy and experienced candidate such as Hillary Clinton elocs Apr 2018 #10

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As I wrote to you above, I expect 20 Democrats to run. StevieM Apr 2018 #18

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Whatever Walker's reasons, his saying others should drop out to stop Trump was correct. elocs Apr 2018 #88

allowing a savvy and experienced candidate such as Hillary Clinton ???? trueblue2007 Apr 2018 #14

Sigh. No. nt redgreenandblue Apr 2018 #32

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Thank you dalton99a! nt Heartstrings Apr 2018 #86

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average_mo_dem, welcome to DU. nm S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2018 #43

Thank you average_mo_dem Apr 2018 #50

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Midterms first please.........nt Heartstrings Apr 2018 #51

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Once we gain some control with midterms Heartstrings Apr 2018 #58

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We can debate our potential 2020 candidates Heartstrings Apr 2018 #70

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