I seriously think we are seeing the beginning of America seperating into two or three countries.

[Douglas Carpenter]

156. A national precinct map would even show the point stronger.

If we take for example Erie County, PA where I grew up - Erie (a small city - but nonetheless a city) Erie County went for Obama - but that was largely because the city of Erie went for Obama and perhaps some of the closest suburbs - leave that pocket just a few miles - and the areas is overwhelmingly Republican. In fact, New York, PA, Ohio and pretty much everywhere - once you get out of the actual city and its immediate suburbs- you tend to find yourself in GOP strongholds and a much more conservative and perhaps even a much more traditionally religious environment. There are liberal rural areas. But these tend to be either university communities or places that like Vermont or Santa Cruz County, California or even parts of Idaho that became attractive to people who moved in from urban centers or in some cases places that became overspills from cosmopolitan centers - Napa Valley, California for example tends to go Democratic. But that is a very different kind of rural area than cattle raising country.

Part of a the point I want to make is that I disagree with the OP that a split up is probable - partly because - although America is living in different states of consciousness and there does seem to be vastly different America's at least in terms of how people see the world - this divide is not something that offers any conceivable way of drawing a geographic line - such as East/West or North/South. Population demographics change things also. We see places like Virginia or even Utah developing cosmopolitan pockets that reflect the more urban side of America. I cannot imagine any scenario of how to divide America into two separate independent entities separating the areas of higher cosmopolitan consciousness from areas of a more traditional social conservative consciousness.